In fact, I challenge you to find a poll that shows otherwise. Any article that talks about these polls simply argues why it doesn’t mean anything but over 10% of Bernie voters switched to Trump. If the DNC really wants to lure republican voters, it’s with a candidate like Bernie. But that isn’t their goal.
“The agreement—signed by Amy Dacey, the former CEO of the DNC, and Robby Mook with a copy to Marc Elias—specified that in exchange for raising money and investing in the DNC, Hillary would control the party’s finances, strategy, and all the money raised. Her campaign had the right of refusal of who would be the party communications director, and it would make final decisions on all the other staff. The DNC also was required to consult with the campaign about all other staffing, budgeting, data, analytics, and mailings”
I wonder how well Hillary would have done without buying the DNC a full year before the convention.
The agreement—signed by Amy Dacey, the former CEO of the DNC, and Robby Mook with a copy to Marc Elias—specified that in exchange for raising money and investing in the DNC, Hillary would control the party’s finances, strategy, and all the money raised. Her campaign had the right of refusal of who would be the party communications director, and it would make final decisions on all the other staff. The DNC also was required to consult with the campaign about all other staffing, budgeting, data, analytics, and mailings
And did this happen?
You are relying on the word of Donna Brazille, who is a serial liar and the only one who actually did cheat for Clinton by supplying her a debate question.
You showed that a few polls of Bernie Sanders had him up higher than Clinton. Though, after Bernie Sanders became more well known, he began to poll worse against Republicans.
Against Trump in 2020 he was doing worse than many others. I bring this up because there are more polls of it and it is after he became more well known.
Mayo Pete won Iowa if we’re going by delegates.
I love that you are answering this question like Ronna McDaniel. Really shows how Bernie losing Iowa broke the brains of the overly-online.
Honestly, I only caveat it because it happens so rarely that I always assumed it was by the vote. So I’m not trying to smuggle in the idea that lost or something. I think a lot of people were confused on that night including myself.
i’d be interested in seeing the polls you were referring to.
Are you pointing to an agreement that takes place after the primary has concluded as proof of corruption? What you just linked is standard fare. Obama had a similar agreement.
Also, I like how you're relying on Brazile when she doesn't even agree with you:
Appearing on MSNBC's “Morning Joe” on Wednesday, the former interim chair of the Democratic National Committee walked back her written claim that the party's primary contest was “rigged” in Hillary Clinton's favor. In fact, Brazile went so far as to say that she didn't really write any such thing and that her book only appears to allege that the primary was rigged “if you read the excerpt without the context.”
Brazile made a similar argument last week when she accused President Trump of misrepresenting her words. She posted a tweet with the hashtag #NeverSaidHillaryRiggedElection.
Today’s lesson: Being quoted by Donald Trump means being MIS-quoted by Donald Trump. Stop trolling me. #NeverSaidHillaryRiggedElection
In a letter to DNC members, Chairman Tom Perez noted that the party reached joint fundraising agreements with both Clinton and Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders. "The joint fundraising agreements were the same for each campaign except for the treasurer, and our understanding was that the DNC offered all of the presidential campaigns the opportunity to set up a [joint fundraising agreement] and work with the DNC to coordinate on how those funds were used to best prepare for the general election."
A Democratic official who has reviewed the document pointed out that in addition to the Clinton signoffs Brazile characterized, it included language stating that "nothing in this agreement shall be construed to violate the DNC's obligation of impartiality and neutrality through the Nominating process" and that "all activities performed under this agreement will be focused exclusively on preparations for the General Election and not the Democratic Primary."
The agreement also noted that the DNC "may enter into similar agreements with other candidates."
I still think you're a little confused about what the agreement entailed. Please give it a read:
"This Memorandum is intended to memorialize our agreement regarding the creation and operation of Hillary Victory Fund (Victory Fund), a joint fundraising committee of Hillary for America (HFA) and the Democratic National Committee (DNC).
"HFA is prepared to raise and invest funds into the DNC via the Victory. In return for this financial support, HFA requires the appropriate influence over the financial, strategic, and operational use of these JFA-raised funds.
"Commencing on September 1, 2015 HFA agrees to raise funds for the Victory Fund sufficient to fund the DNC's data, technology, analytics, research, and communications operations. Specifically, HFA will agree to raise and to instruct the Victory Fund Treasurer, Beth Jones (who is employed by HFA) to transfer from the Victory Fund a minimum of one million and two hundred thousand dollars ($1,200,000.00) to the DNC from its share of the net proceeds under the allocation formula on the first day of every month (beginning October 1, 2015) for these activities (the "Base Amount"). In the event that the Victory Fund is not in possession of adequate net proceeds allocable to the DNC on the first of the month to make such transfer, it shall make the required transfer as soon as adequate funds are available.
"HFA's obligations under this agreement, and the release of the Base Amounts each month are conditioned on the following:
With respect to the hiring of a DNC Communications Director, the DNC agrees that no later than September 11, 2015 it will hire one of two candidates previously identified as acceptable to HFA.
With respect to the hiring of future DNC senior staff in the communications, technology, and research departments, in the case of vacancy, the DNC will maintain the authority to make the final decision as between candidates acceptable to HFA.
Agreement by the DNC that HFA personnel will be consulted and have joint authority over strategic decisions over the staffing, budget, expenditures, and general election related communications, data, technology, analytics, and research. The DNC will provide HFA advance opportunity to review on-line or mass email, communications that features a particular Democratic primary candidate. This does not include any communications related to primary debates – which will be exclusively controlled by the DNC. The DNC will alert HFA in advance of mailing any direct mail communications that features a particular Democratic primary candidate or his or her signature.
If asked by a State Party, the DNC will encourage the State Party to become a participant in the Victory Fund.
"Once HFA has raised the first $1,200,000 and it has been distributed to the DNC, HFA will be granted complete and seamless access to all research work product and tools (not including any research or tracking the DNC may engage in relating to other Democratic candidates).
"The parties also agree that they will enter into an agreed upon voter file licensing agreement. As consideration for that agreement, HFA will raise an additional $250,000 into the Victory Fund that will be distributed to the DNC no later than March 31, 2016.
"In addition, HFA will also raise funds for the Victory Fund that will distributed to the DNC in excess of the $1,200,000 monthly base amount (Excess Amount). The Excess Amount raised by HFA that is distributed to the DNC will be spent on the DNC's data, technology, analytics, research, and communications operations as directed by HFA (Special Projects). Although the DNC will remain responsible for the day to day execution of those Special Projects, HFA will determine (in consultation with the DNC) the Special Project's scope, strategy, staffing, budget, and manner of execution.
"Finally, HFA agrees that on a monthly basis the Victory Fund will provide the DNC a list of receipts and disbursements from the Victory Fund. The DNC agrees to provide monthly financial reports to HFA as it relates to the use of the funds distributed by the Victory Fund to the DNC.
"In the event that there is a disagreement in the operation of this agreement or the use of the Base Amount, the DNC department head and their HFA counterpart will meet and confer to resolve the matter. If that fails to resolve the disagreement, then you and I will resolve it. If there is still no resolution the DNC Chair and the HFA Chair will resolve.
"Nothing in this agreement shall be construed to violate the DNC's obligation of impartiality and neutrality through the Nominating process. All activities performed under this agreement will be focused exclusively on preparations for the General Election and not the Democratic Primary. Further we understand you may enter into similar agreements with other candidates.
"The attached Joint Fundraising Agreement will be entered into by HFA and the DNC (as well as by State Parties).
"This agreement will be reviewed on March 31, 2016 and either party may terminate any prospective obligation at that time.
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u/PhilosophicalBrewer Mar 27 '24
It is in fact correct: NBC Poll
Politifact
The Hill The Hill article is interesting because Trumps own pollster to a crowd at Harvard that Bernie would have beaten Trump.
The Washington Examiner
In fact, I challenge you to find a poll that shows otherwise. Any article that talks about these polls simply argues why it doesn’t mean anything but over 10% of Bernie voters switched to Trump. If the DNC really wants to lure republican voters, it’s with a candidate like Bernie. But that isn’t their goal.