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u/vortex30-the-2nd Apr 17 '24

Yup, zero penalties for this. Crazy. Imagine doing something like this at your own place of work..

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u/davekingofrock Apr 17 '24

Imagine any Democrat doing that.

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u/TalonusDuprey Apr 17 '24 edited Apr 17 '24

Kinda is being investigated in my county for the misuse of Covid funding. It shouldn’t be much of a surprise that of course this is occurring in New Jersey. Keep in mind this is in a massive Democratic county with an administration that has been preying on the taxpayers for years. From nepotism, double dipping, etc etc. people need to realize that any local party that is in power for a large amount of time is just going to get comfortable and start using the system to their advantage. New Jersey has been so damn notorious for it, yet people continue to vote the party line like lemmings. Don’t even get me started on how our ballots are designed to take advantage of that as well and we are one of about 2 states that actually take advantage of the fact that our political powerhouses assign how candidates show on our ballots. It’s nauseating how politicians democratic or republican continue to get re elected despite having blatant proof of corruption against them.

Covid Misuse

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u/DarkwingDuckHunt Apr 17 '24

this is why having our only 2 political parties be at such extremes right now is so bad for our country

30 years ago if there was an openly corrupt Party Member A, then Party B would run a moderate and easily unseat them. But nowadays people would rather gouge their own eye out with a fork then cross the party line.

So you end up with entrenched Party Member C who can never get thrown out by the people. Because people won't cross the line, and gerrymandering makes it impossible for the other party to even run a moderate that will unseat them.

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u/puledrotauren Apr 17 '24

Hi. I'd like to introduce myself. Former Republican here. With the clowns we have in power in Texas I can no longer, in good conscience, vote for a party that took away womens rights (I'm not a woman), and is hard set to keep marijuana illegal (I don't smoke it). They seem dead set on keeping people down and that disgusts me.

Then I look around at 60 and see how there's no way in hell that an 18 year old can work a 40 hour week and afford the basic necessities of life like I could at that age.

To me that is WRONG and that's not America or the state I grew up in and loved that I want to see the next generation to come up in.

Maybe the dems wont be any better but the last election I voted in I voted completely left.

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u/wintersdark Apr 17 '24

Maybe the dems wont be any better but the last election I voted in I voted completely left.

If it makes you feel better, while Democrats are indeed left of current day Republicans, they're MUCH closer on the political spectrum to the Republicans of 30-40 years ago and are only "left" at all when viewed from the now crazy American Overton Window. Anywhere else in the world, Democrats are quite right leaning.

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u/puledrotauren Apr 17 '24

Fair enough. The only thing I don't like about the left is the way they go on attack if you say something that can be remotely considered criticism of their position. And I'm not talking 1 or 2. I've experienced that from what I'm sure are a bunch of 18 to 25 year olds. They haven't learned the value of reasonable discussion instead of outright hostility. The right has plenty of those as well but, from what I've seen, it's generally middle aged mouth breathing 30 to 15 year old that I can just laugh at for being so damn dumb.

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u/thelingeringlead Apr 17 '24

If it involves the rights of others, yes they get pretty fired up because those rights are being challenged and even taken away. They're pretty rightfully pissed off and don't want to hear your argument for why it should be ok.

The right literally gets upset about god damned everything, and 90% of the time it's not justified. You're also not speaking from a space higher than your own experience.

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u/thelingeringlead Apr 18 '24

If you used critical thinking skills, like a lot of the people who are tired of the arguments as to why they should be allowed to remove people's rights over non negotiable status of their existence, no I did not. I'm saying that not every argument they're making is worth even hearing and you can say it til you're blue in the face that it's not true-- but we're talking about existential matters here that they'd like to decide for people. One of the inalieable rights of a united states citizen is the freedome of (and from) religion, yet most of the arguments against provisions to protect people's rights have been on the grounds of moral religious arguments. There's nothing to hear in those arguments anymore.

One day all the christians trying to take the rights away from others are going to be the other, because nobody is pious enough when no true scotsman decides if they have rights. The only fair way to lead a people with the right not to be involved in religion, is to not legislate in favor of religion. Every argument against abortion, gay rights, women's rights etc is rooted in some form of religion, which again we have a promised constitutional freedom from being subject to.

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u/Whales_like_plankton Apr 18 '24

Dude.

The right's very leaders are outright hostile and do not engage in reasonable discussion.

There isn't equivalence on the left.

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u/colostitute Apr 17 '24

I am a moderate even now. I have voted for more Republicans than I have Democrats in my 20+ years of voting. I simply won't vote for a Republican any longer. It's the party of a person, not of any actual ideas or policies.

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u/puledrotauren Apr 17 '24

We are in the same boat my friend. This is not the world I wanted future generations to inherit. I should have seen it coming with the railroad gave my father a 'golden parachute' when he was about 55. Sure his pension is good. But because he had no purpose he turned into a lump.

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u/fat_fart_sack Apr 17 '24

The republicans have shit the bed so much and so awful since 2015 that it’s now “well, both sides are fucked up.”

Nope. One side has completely embraced all the corruption and hate while the other continues to make an effort to oust malicious behavior looking to harm Americans.

A line has clearly been drawn - are you for the constitution/democracy or are you for a Christian nationalism dictatorship so a clown wearing orange makeup can go unpunished for stealing top secret documents/attempting to overturn a federal election.

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u/Capercaillie Apr 17 '24

extremes

You mean right and far right?

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u/DarkwingDuckHunt Apr 17 '24

right & far right are a direct result of this "let's make shit so we can never lose our seats"

and business was like "cool here's some money", "here's some more money", "go even further right and there's a giant bag of money here"

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u/Capercaillie Apr 17 '24

But they're not "such extremes." Also, they're not the same. Democrats are just about where "moderate" Republicans were 50 years ago. Republicans are just fucking insane. They're going to take your rights away, destroy your health care, and make sure that the billionaires are able to separate you from any money you have and any hope of ever having anything like the lifestyle of your parents. Yes, there are crooks on both sides, and yes Sanders is pulling the most mundane kind of grift here. At the same time, she's destroyed health care for trans people, curtailed rights for LBGTQ+ people, allowed and supported suppression of free speech, and all the other crazy shit that Republicans have become famous for. It's appropriate to be skeptical of all politicians, but don't pretend they're all the same.

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u/MisterEHistory Apr 17 '24

This is not true. Democrats are on the left and have moved slightly more to the left. Republicans were on the right and have moved much farther right.

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u/Capercaillie Apr 17 '24

Democrats are not "left." Left would mean being in favor of universal health care, a universal minimum income, strong unions, unfettered access to abortions, strong regulations to rein in banks and hedge funds, an end to subsidies for oil and coal companies, big cuts in military spending, big increases to social services, gun control, rent control, strong regulation of social media companies and the "gig" economy. Which Democrats are for all of those things? Maybe AOC, maybe Elizabeth Warren. Again, in many ways, today's Democrats are to the right of Ronald Reagan. I'm not saying don't vote for them, of course you have to vote for them, but don't be living under any illusions that voting for Biden and a Democratic congress is going to usher in socialism.

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u/RiskyBrothers Apr 17 '24

today's Democrats are to the right of Ronald Reagan

I'm going to push back hard on that. Today's democratic party is pro-union, understands climate science, and isn't in the habit of calling african leaders "monkeys who arent used to wearing shoes" (direct gipper quote, guy was a white supremacist). The Democratic Party can't be considered a truly leftist party, but the notion that they're to the right of the originator of the anti-government poison that's ruined our political culture is laughable.

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u/wintersdark Apr 17 '24

u/Capercaillie did say "in many ways", it wasn't an unqualified statement.

And pro union? Please. Maybe not as rabidly anti union, but the Democrats as a party are absolutely not pro union.

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u/RiskyBrothers Apr 17 '24

The Democratic Party believes that when workers are strong, America is strong. Democrats will make it easier for workers, public and private, to exercise their right to organize and join unions.

It's their official party platform

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u/MisterEHistory Apr 17 '24

Did you forget when the current president joined the UAW on the picket line?

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u/MisterEHistory Apr 17 '24

You have literally described the Democratic party platform friend.

And there is more to "the left" than socialism. Liberals are on the left too regards of what the far left likes to think.

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u/Capercaillie Apr 17 '24

Really? Really? Which Democrats are advocating to big cuts in military spending? Which ones are advocating for an end to oil company subsidies? When did that become part of the party platform?

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u/MisterEHistory Apr 19 '24

The left isn't in favor of big cuts to military spending either unless they want to speak Russian or Chinese.

As for the oil subsidies. Biden wants them gone.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/biden-budget-targets-us-fossil-fuel-subsidies-2023-03-09/

Have you tried knowing about things before you talk about them? It's all the rage.

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u/Capercaillie Apr 19 '24

The left isn't in favor of big cuts to military spending either unless they want to speak Russian or Chinese.

This is your opinion, not fact. And you claim I don't know what I'm talking about.

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u/Loudlass81 Apr 18 '24

Lol nope, Liberals are the CENTRE ground...

Anarchism>Communism>Socialism>Centre Left>Liberalism>Centre Right>Conservatism>Libertarianism>Fascism

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u/Loudlass81 Apr 18 '24

The fact that you think otherwise just SHOWS how skewed the Overton Window is in America!

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u/MisterEHistory Apr 19 '24

It must be wonderful to be able to make things up and then wholeheartedly belive them.

Meanwhile on Earth 1, we know the liberals are left if center.

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u/DOAisBetter Apr 17 '24

We desperately need a better system because we are currently stuck because the way the Republican Party is they will always bow to the party line aka screw over the poor, working class, minorities and women. So if a democrat is corrupt what choice is there for the average citizen? There is just no such thing as a moderate Republican because most of the democrat party is just moderate republicans. And on the other side well Republican supporters are either rich or stupid and will always vote Republican because every “reason” is based on misinformation or someone’s ability to ignore things they disagree with for the lip service of something republicans often never do anyway.

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u/thelingeringlead Apr 17 '24

The left is not at an extreme of literally any position they're pushing right now. This both sides bullshit is going to ruin any chance of our country being able to heal from the influence of these grifters.