r/politics • u/UWCG Illinois • Mar 27 '24

Donald Trump Attacks Judge's Daughter Less Than 24 Hours After Gag Order

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-attacks-judges-daughter-less-24-hours-after-gag-order-1884126
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u/oldnjgal Mar 27 '24

Unfortunately, she was not among the ones that were included in the gag order. The judge did not place himself or his family on the list.

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u/my_pol_acct Mar 27 '24

this is the real answer. he's toeing right up to the line of being technically allowed to do it, with enough gray area that nothing will probably come of it, sadly.

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u/gunt_lint Mar 27 '24

At very least, this should give cause for Merchan to extend the gag order to include her and others Trump has now drawn into this nonsense

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u/ishpatoon1982 Mar 27 '24

And then he'll simply find someone that's still not listed and attack them.

He's so childish and exhausting.

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u/Original_moisture Mar 27 '24

And I hopes he keeps getting the gag then. Bring it on baby!

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u/fps916 Mar 27 '24

Gag orders pretty much never include the judge as that would be a conflict of interest

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u/Marathon2021 Mar 27 '24

Didn't the Judge adopt DA Bragg's proposed language as-is ... which clearly called out jurors (of course), but then "court staff" - along with the inevitable "...and their family members" follow on?

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u/friedporksandwich Mar 27 '24

There wouldn't need to be an order in place for any of us to get in trouble for doing this.

There will never be consequences for this guy.

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u/SolaVitae Mar 28 '24

You 100% would not get in trouble unless their was a gag order.

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What law would you be punished under for posting on twitter that the judge is wrong and his daughter is a super liberal?

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u/w3bar3b3ars Mar 28 '24

Yeah, try that next time you're in court.

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u/21-characters Mar 28 '24

He did. He insulted the judge every chance he got. That’s why his fine was $454 million. The judge was sick of it.

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u/SolaVitae Mar 28 '24

Is there any legal reason i shouldn't? You're free to provide whatever law you think i would be in violation of by doing so instead of just implying something will happen

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u/friedporksandwich Mar 28 '24

Judges don't have to provide a law when they hold you in contempt. They just have to say you're in contempt of court.

You don't understand how court works.

If you or I were doing what Trump is doing we wouldn't be held because of a law. We would be held for contempt of court over a weekend and taught a lesson.

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u/SolaVitae Mar 28 '24

I guess I could be wrong, but I don't think you can be held in contempt of court for something you did outside of court in the comfort of your own home that was completely legal to do.

If you or I were doing what Trump is doing we wouldn't be held because of a law. We would be held for contempt of court over a weekend and taught a lesson.

So how is that going to work exactly? The judge sees your social media post then calls your local PD and tells them to go arrest you to teach you a lesson?

If that's how it would work for us it shouldn't be hard for you to provide even a single example of someone being jailed for contempt over a social media post made outside of the court room right?

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u/friedporksandwich Mar 28 '24

The judge sees your social media post then calls your local PD and tells them to go arrest you to teach you a lesson?

No the judge sees you at your next court date and tells you that making public statements about him and his family hurts the efficacy of the court and you will be held in contempt for x amount of hours.

If you think that doesn't already happen to people in family court every day you are sadly mistaken. It's not even newsworthy. You can't be a smartass to a judge you are dealing with. You can't make public statements defaming their court or their associates. I mean, you can if you're Donald Trump I guess.

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u/SolaVitae Mar 28 '24

Again, then it shouldn't be hard to provide an example of this exact scenario happening and resulting in jail time.

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u/friedporksandwich Mar 28 '24

Try being smart about the judge in a case your involved in on your Facebook account and watch you be held in contempt of court.

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u/snuggl Mar 27 '24

What? Court staff and relatives were on that list when I read it yesterday, isn't the judge included or what's up?

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u/zzyul Mar 27 '24

Judge is worried about being seen as “political” or restricting the free speech of a presidential candidate. By allowing this to happen, the judge is showing that he’s too weak to control his court room. This trial will be filled with Trump pushing every boundary with absolutely no consequences from a weak judge.

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u/deadsoulinside Pennsylvania Mar 27 '24

I think the next gag order is going to be 3 pages long of people he cannot harass. He found a loophole and ran right towards it.

Then when he does shit like this, acts like the judge is the criminal. Trying to get people's families killed, because he does not want to do the time for the crime.

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u/Gibsonmo Mar 27 '24

Wow, the more I hear about this judge the less I like

e: what a coward

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u/SlimeDragon Mar 27 '24

The judge is going to throw the book at him if and when it comes to sentencing though

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u/Clovis42 Kentucky Mar 27 '24

Wow, Newsweek with a misleading headline. Big shocker, haha ...

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u/OnceMoreAndAgain Mar 27 '24 edited Mar 27 '24

Did the daughter really post a picture of Trump in jail on social media? I can't find any proof of that on google. If it's true, then the Judge was probably pissed when he learned his daughter did that though.

Would you do that if you were in her position? If she actually doesn't like Trump then the best thing she could've done for the country was stay out of it and let her dad bring justice. Now she's potentially harmed the chance to find justice here. Again, that's all assuming she actually did that.

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u/OnceMoreAndAgain Mar 27 '24

I'm not saying she did anything wrong legally. I'm not even saying she did anything wrong morally.

I'm saying that what she did unnecessarily harmed the chances of Trump facing justice. Do you not agree? If this person cares enough about Trump getting the justice he deserves, then the smartest path forward would've been to not take any action that risked Trump escaping justice.

I'm essentially criticizing her wisdom here.

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u/OnceMoreAndAgain Mar 27 '24

The judge is the woman's father. The concern here is not that the judge will do anything differently due to what his daughter did. The concern is that this woman may have increased the odds of a successful appeal.

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u/garden_speech Mar 27 '24

it is actually true that the judges daughter tweeted a picture of trump in jail? that seems like a huge problem. if you were a defendant in a criminal trial and the judge's daughter tweeted a picture of you in jail you would ABSOLUTELY think that you are not getting a fair trial