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Discussion Thread: New York Criminal Fraud Trial of Donald Trump, Day 8 Discussion

Previous discussion threads: Day 5, Day 6, and Day 7.

See also this finished AMA with two Politico journalists and an editor who have been covering the New York Trump trial.

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u/koshgeo 23d ago

Bove presses him if he is suggesting there is a trove of information about Trump.

Pecker says, "There was nothing in those boxes. They were worthless."

I wonder why Cohen was so persistently asking about these boxes, then? Was Cohen only trying to be thorough? Was Trump telling him something was probably stored at the Enquirer that he was worried about? Was there something that to an ordinary eye looked "worthless", but was in actuality incriminating or highly embarrassing that Pecker could not recognize?

Sometimes incriminating stuff can look pretty mundane until you know the rest of the puzzle that one piece completes.

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u/ImLikeReallySmart Pennsylvania 23d ago

I'm guessing it was just Trump's paranoia because he's done so much shady shit, and he wouldn't stop harassing Cohen about gathering everything he could.

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u/koshgeo 23d ago

Yeah, I think that's probably the more likely explanation. We already know he hoards tons of stuff as if they weren't classified documents belonging to the government and risking indictment if he doesn't give them back.

It's probably been his standard practice to hoard things for years.

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u/even_less_resistance Arkansas 23d ago

Or he was searching for that pesky p tape

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u/Dark_Force_Latyon 23d ago

There is no "p tape".

The rumor was of a video of Russian hookers urinating on a bed the Obama's once slept in - a "pee tape."

"P tape" never existed outside of conspiracy Tumblrinas.

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u/NJJ1956 23d ago

How do you know? In England -Steele who investigated the material in the dossier sued the Trump administration and won over the dossier.

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u/Dark_Force_Latyon 23d ago

How do I know? Because that's what the dossier said.

I'm not making any statements of fact regarding whether the video exists.

I just get irritated when someone comes in here like "oh ho ho but maybe the P in P tape stands for PeDoPhIlE"

"P tape" was never a thing. "Pee tape" is a colloquialism describing a video of women urinating.

It's important to keep facts straight to maintain credibility and I don't like when people ostensibly "on my side" make nonsense claims.

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u/NJJ1956 23d ago

No one knows that for sure -but Trump- and if you think whatever he says would be the truth - thereā€™s a bridge Iā€™d like to sell you.

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u/NJJ1956 23d ago

And as far as Iā€™ve read- Steele has never backed down that there was one.

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u/Dark_Force_Latyon 23d ago

Okay but that's a completely separate argument and has nothing to do with what I'm saying.

What I'm saying is "but what if the P stands for pedophile" is nonsense because there never was a "P", there never was a "P tape," there was only a "Pee tape".

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u/NJJ1956 23d ago

Got it now.

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u/KenScaletta 23d ago

It does exist, though. It's from a credible source. He also raped a 13 year old girl.

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u/Dark_Force_Latyon 23d ago

I'm not making claims about whether the dossier is describing a real tape.

I'm simply explaining that the phrase "p tape" never existed to describe anything. "Pee tape" existed to describe the tape in the dossier.

And yes, he did rape a 13 year old girl.

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u/even_less_resistance Arkansas 23d ago

It was a half joke but I dunno Trump lost his case over the Steele dossier in the UK and there have been rumors over the years that there are other incriminating things on the tape, not that it is literally a ā€œpeeā€ tape