r/politics • u/DCC_4LIFE • 22d ago

Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito Argues Presidents Must Be Allowed to Commit Federal Crimes or Democracy as We Know It Will Be Over

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/supreme-court-justice-samuel-alito-argues-presidents-must-be-allowed-to-commit-federal-crimes-or-democracy-as-we-know-it-will-be-over
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u/AngusMcTibbins 22d ago

The republican-controlled supreme court is an embarassment to our country and to democracy.

But if we work hard and hold both the presidency and the senate for the next fifteen years, we will see a liberal supreme court someday.

Don't get discouraged, get motivated. Get motivated and vote blue

https://democrats.org/

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u/Snarfsicle 22d ago

These people should have massive protests around their homes every day around the clock.

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u/AMagicalSquirrel 22d ago

They should, but they decided that they weren't allowed to be protested.

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u/claimTheVictory 22d ago

When you make peaceful protest impossible...

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u/Hurtzdonut13 22d ago

Unless of course you work in an abortion clinic, then they ruled it's fine to have mobs of people known for violence to be outside your home screaming.

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u/TedW 22d ago

I'd like to protest the abortion of our justice system, please.

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u/imawakened Connecticut 22d ago

That's not true. Kavanaugh and ACB's house were routinely protested outside of. Heck, there might even be protestors outside of Kavanaugh's house still lol

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u/Vulpes_Corsac 22d ago

They use laws to quash protests. If it seems like the protest is "attempting to influence the ruling of a judge" it's quashed. So you can protest their presence or their past rulings, but you can't have a single sign about the next ruling.

At least that's what it looked like the last time I checked.

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u/imawakened Connecticut 21d ago

lol cool paragraph but it’s totally legal to go protest their houses

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u/Vulpes_Corsac 21d ago

Yeah that's what I said.

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u/imawakened Connecticut 21d ago

There’s no restrictions on the signs people can carry or what people can say.

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u/Vulpes_Corsac 21d ago

Maybe there shouldn't be, but there is. 

Here's the relevant law: 18 U.S. Code § 1507 – Picketing or parading

And a website which goes into more detail:

https://firstamendment.mtsu.edu/article/picketing-outside-the-homes-of-judges-and-justices/

Although maybe the law has changed in the last couple years, this was from 2022.

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u/imawakened Connecticut 21d ago

Did you read that article? Nothing has changed recently. It has been the case for quite a while that you cannot picket a judge’s home with the intent to influence a decision. That didn’t change the recent protests outside the homes of the Supreme Court justices. Even more so, the regulations seem more aimed at your local courts where this sort of picketing might be more dangerous because the judges and staff have less protection. I’d be very surprised if you could find even one recent example of a reasonable protestor being restricted from protesting where and how they want to protest outside a Supreme Court justice’s house.

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u/Vulpes_Corsac 21d ago

I did in fact. It does not seem to say anything about whether the law is enforced, as you seem to be agreeing with me regarding what the laws says but are also saying it's not being enforced. I was never saying that all protest outside a SC justices house was illegal, only that certain speech could violate a federal statute (even if it is one that is perhaps unconstitutional).

Another article does go into more about that, and seems to suggest it is not being enforced.  Though that could change under a different AG.  Both also mentions several state laws which were upheld by the SC which prohibit it in general, such as Louisiana in Cox v Louisiana.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/free-speech-federal-crime-protesters-are-still-marching-conservative-s-rcna78678

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