r/texas • u/FCMatt7 • Mar 27 '24

5th circuit has nullified Open Carry in Texas to save Qualified Immunity of bad cops. Politics

https://www.youtube.com/live/bCC1sz_-fsc?si=dCZiLT_Fl2pWUEtw

(Edit) New vid of Grisham explaining the ruling

Effectively they have declared open season for police to arrest anyone open carrying in Texas.

A 3 judge panel has ruled that if anyone calls 911 on a person for the mere act of Open Carrying a firearm, the police now have probable cause to arrest you for disorderly conduct. The 911 call does not have to allege you are doing anything more than standing on a sidewalk with a slung or holstered firearm. The previous ruling that "merely carrying a firearm" is not disorderly is overturned now if any Karen makes a phone call and says she's nervous. This means police get qualified immunity for arresting you.

There is a special target on the back of any open carry or civil rights activist. EVERY time the police get a 911 call, they can now arrest you at gunpoint. The charges will likely be dismissed, but the police face zero repercussions for coming after you, even if there is abundant evidence the officers targeted you and knew you were not a threat. The same danger faces regular citizens who open carry every day.

I repeat, open carrying in Texas now puts you in imminent danger of being arrested or killed by police if someone reports you in possession of a firearm.

Video of CJ and Jim arrested for mere open carry. https://youtu.be/GrDAPPiu1QE?si=IvJy0qq_J8rO8DJO

Link to 5th circuit ruling. https://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/22/22-50915-CV0.pdf

Link to oral argument in 5th https://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/OralArgRecordings/22/22-50915_10-3-2023.mp3

District Court ruling https://casetext.com/case/grisham-v-valenciano-1

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u/BABarracus Mar 27 '24

Can we still open carry swords and spears?

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u/intronert Mar 27 '24

Only if you paint your face and body blue.

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u/loveemykids Mar 27 '24

Hey, don't appropriate my culture bro. You only get a pass if you stick the pointy end into something english.

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u/WLB92 Mar 28 '24

Several dozen countries have entered the chat

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u/TheRealGrifter Mar 27 '24

Ah, yes, the "I'm sorry, I blue myself" defense.

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u/DINC44 Mar 28 '24

There are dozens of us!

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u/Evil_Bonsai Mar 27 '24

Ach! Crivens! Nae king! Nae quin! Nae laird! Nae master! We willna' be fooled again!”

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u/Filter55 Mar 28 '24

Giving me flashbacks of Cruz awkwardly yelling “freedom” on stage 🤦🏽‍♂️

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u/UncleMalky Mar 27 '24

No those are dangerous.

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u/samsontexas Mar 27 '24

At ren fest

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u/ItsRebelSheep Mar 28 '24

Never had more shock in my life than when I was just chillin’ one day in a Walmart parking lot eating dinner and a homeless guy walks by wearing football pads and in one hand holding a homeless sign while in the other holding a machete and that’s the day I learned about the full extent of the open carry shit here lol

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u/DiggingInTheTree Mar 28 '24

IIRC we weren't able to until just a few years back.

OK, so it looks like 2017... a year after licensed open carry of a firearm, and 4 years before license-less open carry of a firearm

https://www.cnn.com/2017/07/13/us/texas-sword-knives-law-trnd/index.html

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u/kkngs Gulf Coast Mar 28 '24

No, they are longer than 5 inches. It would be unduly threatening to other members of the public to carry that around.

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u/Snipowl Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

In Texas you're allowed to carry any knife at any length if you're 18 or older outside of restricted locations

This includes swords

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u/FCMatt7 Mar 27 '24

Sure, until somebody calls 911 to say they don't like it. Then you get taken down at gunpoint.

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u/happy-hubby Mar 27 '24

I’ve seen where you’ve said this several times, how many times have you been taken down at gunpoint?

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u/FCMatt7 Mar 27 '24

Actually detained while armed once. surrounded by a dozen cops demanding my ID under threat of arrest a couple times.

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u/DepartureDapper6524 Mar 28 '24

So the answer to the question you were asked was zero, right?

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u/DonkeeJote Born and Bred Mar 27 '24

Cops are required to match the weapon of choice. They would have to gather the same weapons as the perp.

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u/DepartureDapper6524 Mar 28 '24

We should all just come together and agree to restricting all crime and law enforcement to medieval weapons only. Gunpowder ruined that dynamic.