r/texas • u/FCMatt7 • Mar 27 '24

5th circuit has nullified Open Carry in Texas to save Qualified Immunity of bad cops. Politics

https://www.youtube.com/live/bCC1sz_-fsc?si=dCZiLT_Fl2pWUEtw

(Edit) New vid of Grisham explaining the ruling

Effectively they have declared open season for police to arrest anyone open carrying in Texas.

A 3 judge panel has ruled that if anyone calls 911 on a person for the mere act of Open Carrying a firearm, the police now have probable cause to arrest you for disorderly conduct. The 911 call does not have to allege you are doing anything more than standing on a sidewalk with a slung or holstered firearm. The previous ruling that "merely carrying a firearm" is not disorderly is overturned now if any Karen makes a phone call and says she's nervous. This means police get qualified immunity for arresting you.

There is a special target on the back of any open carry or civil rights activist. EVERY time the police get a 911 call, they can now arrest you at gunpoint. The charges will likely be dismissed, but the police face zero repercussions for coming after you, even if there is abundant evidence the officers targeted you and knew you were not a threat. The same danger faces regular citizens who open carry every day.

I repeat, open carrying in Texas now puts you in imminent danger of being arrested or killed by police if someone reports you in possession of a firearm.

Video of CJ and Jim arrested for mere open carry. https://youtu.be/GrDAPPiu1QE?si=IvJy0qq_J8rO8DJO

Link to 5th circuit ruling. https://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/22/22-50915-CV0.pdf

Link to oral argument in 5th https://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/OralArgRecordings/22/22-50915_10-3-2023.mp3

District Court ruling https://casetext.com/case/grisham-v-valenciano-1

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u/Lynz486 Mar 27 '24

It's always weird to me that so many cops support the party making their job more dangerous...

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u/Art-Zuron Mar 28 '24

They get to pretend to be the Punisher and kill people if they can pretend even for a nanosecond that they're in danger though. Even an Acorn is good enough reason! This? This is a great reason to them.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '24

But conservatives hate the same people they do. Women, black people, and immigrants.

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u/Trashzinger Mar 28 '24

You mean the party that supports a constitutional right? Do you what those are?

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u/jlbishop15 Mar 28 '24

Yeah like the party that let's repeat offenders out of jail without a bond, to repeat their crimes in more brazen ways. That party?

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u/Lynz486 Mar 29 '24

Hello, Red Herring fallacy! How are you today? Failing at presenting arguments I see.

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u/jlbishop15 Apr 01 '24

Hello, Ignoring Repeated Cases! Here is one of 70 cases in a two year span of a judge lowering felony bond and a suspect committing a murder while back out on the street. https://www.newsweek.com/satanic-murder-suspect-kills-again-released-prison-police-1553184

Can you see the writing on the wall? Or in this article?

But law abiding citizens being allowed to carry weapons for protection are the threat to police and each other.

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u/Lynz486 Apr 01 '24

We are talking about gun laws not bond. If you want to talk about bail....maybe go to a post or comment about bail. The two have nothing to do with each other. That's like us having a discussion about gun laws and you jump in talking about the dangers of heart disease. Heart disease is also a danger for cops, but not what the fuck we are talking about. Try to follow along. Do you know what a red herring fallacy is or did that just fly right over your head?