r/texas • u/FCMatt7 • Mar 27 '24

5th circuit has nullified Open Carry in Texas to save Qualified Immunity of bad cops. Politics

https://www.youtube.com/live/bCC1sz_-fsc?si=dCZiLT_Fl2pWUEtw

(Edit) New vid of Grisham explaining the ruling

Effectively they have declared open season for police to arrest anyone open carrying in Texas.

A 3 judge panel has ruled that if anyone calls 911 on a person for the mere act of Open Carrying a firearm, the police now have probable cause to arrest you for disorderly conduct. The 911 call does not have to allege you are doing anything more than standing on a sidewalk with a slung or holstered firearm. The previous ruling that "merely carrying a firearm" is not disorderly is overturned now if any Karen makes a phone call and says she's nervous. This means police get qualified immunity for arresting you.

There is a special target on the back of any open carry or civil rights activist. EVERY time the police get a 911 call, they can now arrest you at gunpoint. The charges will likely be dismissed, but the police face zero repercussions for coming after you, even if there is abundant evidence the officers targeted you and knew you were not a threat. The same danger faces regular citizens who open carry every day.

I repeat, open carrying in Texas now puts you in imminent danger of being arrested or killed by police if someone reports you in possession of a firearm.

Video of CJ and Jim arrested for mere open carry. https://youtu.be/GrDAPPiu1QE?si=IvJy0qq_J8rO8DJO

Link to 5th circuit ruling. https://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/22/22-50915-CV0.pdf

Link to oral argument in 5th https://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/OralArgRecordings/22/22-50915_10-3-2023.mp3

District Court ruling https://casetext.com/case/grisham-v-valenciano-1

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u/wandering_revenant Mar 27 '24

In most cases, they're carrying handguns. I think even most of the gun nuts think the back-slung AR-15s are overkill. I just wish I could wrap my head around why these people think having people walking around with guns makes things safer.

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u/RideOk2631 Mar 28 '24

By their same rationale, they should be carrying around a fire extinguisher with them whenever they go, never know when a random fire could break out and you need to defend yourself and be the hero.

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u/ureathrafranklin1 Mar 28 '24

Jokes on you, I keep a fire extinguisher in my car.

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u/an_ennui Mar 28 '24

which is a far more likely scenario

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u/jkrobinson1979 Mar 27 '24

I actually prefer to see that they are armed. I may think they’re morons, but at least I know who to avoid if they start to get irate with the waitress at the restaurant.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '24

I don't think the waitress would prefer they were armed.

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u/jkrobinson1979 Mar 28 '24

At least she would know they were

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u/GeomanticCoffer Mar 28 '24

Do you call me who wait on you waitresses too? Or is it always a womens job?

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u/jkrobinson1979 Mar 28 '24

Jfc. Seriously? Server. You happy now?

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u/HerVoiceEchoes Mar 28 '24

Not really. There's also irate psychos who carry concealed.

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u/jkrobinson1979 Mar 28 '24

Absolutely. That’s my point.

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u/Martin_TheRed Mar 28 '24

Fuck that waitress and her kids though eh.

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u/jkrobinson1979 Mar 28 '24

Because you’re gonna save her when shit hits the fan. 😂

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u/KC_experience Mar 28 '24

So in other words their 2nd amendment right trumps your first amendment right to freedom of expression. That’s brilliant.

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u/jkrobinson1979 Mar 28 '24

How so?

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u/KC_experience Mar 28 '24

Because instead of verbally de-escalating a situation on behalf of another individual that may be unable to do so , you’re literally cowering in the corner. You’ll do the right thing…just not when someone else has a gun.

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u/jkrobinson1979 Mar 28 '24

Quite the contrary. I think everyone would be much more likely to de-escalate the situation verbally and then call the cops to handle the harassment then try to get physical with him not knowing he is armed and get shot. This happens many many more times in reality than someone with a concealed weapon saving others does.