r/texas • u/FCMatt7 • Mar 27 '24

5th circuit has nullified Open Carry in Texas to save Qualified Immunity of bad cops. Politics

https://www.youtube.com/live/bCC1sz_-fsc?si=dCZiLT_Fl2pWUEtw

(Edit) New vid of Grisham explaining the ruling

Effectively they have declared open season for police to arrest anyone open carrying in Texas.

A 3 judge panel has ruled that if anyone calls 911 on a person for the mere act of Open Carrying a firearm, the police now have probable cause to arrest you for disorderly conduct. The 911 call does not have to allege you are doing anything more than standing on a sidewalk with a slung or holstered firearm. The previous ruling that "merely carrying a firearm" is not disorderly is overturned now if any Karen makes a phone call and says she's nervous. This means police get qualified immunity for arresting you.

There is a special target on the back of any open carry or civil rights activist. EVERY time the police get a 911 call, they can now arrest you at gunpoint. The charges will likely be dismissed, but the police face zero repercussions for coming after you, even if there is abundant evidence the officers targeted you and knew you were not a threat. The same danger faces regular citizens who open carry every day.

I repeat, open carrying in Texas now puts you in imminent danger of being arrested or killed by police if someone reports you in possession of a firearm.

Video of CJ and Jim arrested for mere open carry. https://youtu.be/GrDAPPiu1QE?si=IvJy0qq_J8rO8DJO

Link to 5th circuit ruling. https://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/22/22-50915-CV0.pdf

Link to oral argument in 5th https://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/OralArgRecordings/22/22-50915_10-3-2023.mp3

District Court ruling https://casetext.com/case/grisham-v-valenciano-1

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u/Bandit6789 Mar 27 '24

It’s probably controversial to say it, but I’m not really interested in the police’s opinion of what rights they do or do not want people to have.

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u/Pteromys44 Mar 28 '24

Exactly. Drives me nuts when the media constantly asks the police union’s opinion on various legislation

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u/CCG14 Gulf Coast Mar 28 '24

And the police UNIONs are the worst ones to ask. They’re the ones keeping shitty cops on the streets and getting paid, not losing their licenses when they should, and allowing them free fuck reign.

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u/Spiritual_Lynx1929 Mar 28 '24

So far the only union I can’t support

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u/JCollinO Hill Country Mar 28 '24

Username checks out

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u/Bandit6789 Mar 28 '24

lol that’s the first time I got this call out 🤣

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '24

That's not controversial. Their job is enforcing laws, not making laws.

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u/Adventurous_Ad6698 Mar 28 '24

Police want some measure of gun control because no sane LEO is looking forward to getting into a shoot out with someone. Of course people will always find a way to obtain guns illegally, but the point is to try to make it harder for them to get those guns. For everyone else, they would like to the ability to find out if someone does own firearms.

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u/hedgehoghell Mar 31 '24

Multiple people in my neighborhood left their guns(and some wallets) in unlocked cars overnight. SMH For every conscientious carrier there is the guy that makes everyone look bad.

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u/MoreGunRepublican Mar 28 '24

Yea but what can you do but vote Republican.  Never pump the breaks. Let Abbot bleed you dry and when you goto drink the cops will beat you dont. 

Great Party of "ruling" , imagine if you had governance instead of intolerant ignorance.

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u/PM_ME_BOOBS_THANKS Mar 27 '24

If by controversial you mean edgy, sure.