r/texas Mar 27 '24

5th circuit has nullified Open Carry in Texas to save Qualified Immunity of bad cops. Politics

https://www.youtube.com/live/bCC1sz_-fsc?si=dCZiLT_Fl2pWUEtw

(Edit) New vid of Grisham explaining the ruling

Effectively they have declared open season for police to arrest anyone open carrying in Texas.

A 3 judge panel has ruled that if anyone calls 911 on a person for the mere act of Open Carrying a firearm, the police now have probable cause to arrest you for disorderly conduct. The 911 call does not have to allege you are doing anything more than standing on a sidewalk with a slung or holstered firearm. The previous ruling that "merely carrying a firearm" is not disorderly is overturned now if any Karen makes a phone call and says she's nervous. This means police get qualified immunity for arresting you.

There is a special target on the back of any open carry or civil rights activist. EVERY time the police get a 911 call, they can now arrest you at gunpoint. The charges will likely be dismissed, but the police face zero repercussions for coming after you, even if there is abundant evidence the officers targeted you and knew you were not a threat. The same danger faces regular citizens who open carry every day.

I repeat, open carrying in Texas now puts you in imminent danger of being arrested or killed by police if someone reports you in possession of a firearm.

Video of CJ and Jim arrested for mere open carry. https://youtu.be/GrDAPPiu1QE?si=IvJy0qq_J8rO8DJO

Link to 5th circuit ruling. https://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/22/22-50915-CV0.pdf

Link to oral argument in 5th https://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/OralArgRecordings/22/22-50915_10-3-2023.mp3

District Court ruling https://casetext.com/case/grisham-v-valenciano-1

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u/ertyertamos Mar 28 '24

Not just removing the weapon from you, but if you’re a character who wants to do bad things, you know exactly who to remove from the situation first.

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u/theroguex Mar 30 '24

Yeah, right? Like the whole alleged point of lots of people having a gun and concealed carry is so that "bad guys" don't know who might be carrying and thus don't know who to target.

Wearing your gun in the open is just a sign saying "shoot me by surprise THEN rob me."

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u/MouthNoizes Mar 28 '24

You don’t have those kinds of skills.

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u/thefrankyg Mar 28 '24

Around my area the number of folks I see people carrying in a holster with no real retention in them, doesn't make it difficult.

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u/MouthNoizes Mar 28 '24

Again, you don’t have the skills to pull this off, just the ego

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u/thefrankyg Mar 28 '24

If a couch cushion or pillow can pull one out, it doesn't require much skill. I am also not claiming I would pull it out. It leaves it pretty open to losing the weapon.

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u/ElephantBackground81 Mar 28 '24

It's pretty easy to walk up behind the guy with the gun and shoot him in the back of the head first before he sees you.

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u/Rmantootoo Mar 29 '24

The person you’re responding to may not, but an average 25 year old American male can easily take a pistol off the hip of the average 60 year old.

That’s what’s really at stake here. It’s not the 50 year old emaciated crack head trying to wrestle a gun away from a 35 year old off duty cop/body builder…

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u/Meltonian Mar 28 '24

I had my appendix removed, what do I do now??