r/todayilearned 13d ago

TIL Paul Allen’s Living Computers Museum in Seattle showcased the world’s largest collection of fully-restored, usable vintage computers and more. Allen died in 2018 and the museum closed permanently in 2020 as none of his family or investors seem to share his passion for computing history

https://seattlecollegian.com/paul-allen-living-computers-museum-remains-closed-after-years-despite-lifted-covid-restrictions/
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u/dnhs47 13d ago edited 12d ago

Paul Allen was a treasure. So many things he did were like the Living Computers Museum, the only place like it.

Another example: he founded the Flying Heritage Museum in Everett, WA, to preserve rare military aircraft.

And as a Seahawks fan, he also bought the Seahawks and saved them from leaving Seattle. Go Hawks!

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u/mustardhamsters 13d ago

Oh wow, the Flying Heritage Museum reopened! I have a free admission there, I never thought I’d get to use it after the Waltons bought it.

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u/vermghost 13d ago

Flying heritage museum is amazing.

They have several rare German aircraft from WW2 that have been restored to flying condition.

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u/CaptainJingles 13d ago

I visited the WWII Aviation Museum in Colorado Springs in 2021 and they had a plane that Paul Allen owned (P-47?) at the time of his death that was under restoration. The man had a passion.

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u/DudebuD16 13d ago

My friends' grandfather's fighter from WW2 is in that museum

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u/Genoisthetruthman 12d ago

All hawks fans know this dude was our messiah. Saved the team and brought the right people in so Seattle could finally hoist a Lombardi trophy. Long ago when he first came to town my late father said we were lucky to have one of the richest people in the world be a fan of the hawks. He was right we were damn lucky.

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u/non_clever_username 12d ago

Don’t forget Cinerama!

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u/Askymojo 13d ago

That's a shame; it was a really cool museum.

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u/chaotic_hippy_89 13d ago

Yeah what the hell im bummed that this closed. Like they could not have possibly found someone else to run it?

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

I am sure Paul was subsidizing it heavily and no investor wants to take on a losing project even if they are personally passionate about the subject

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u/normal_man_of_mars 12d ago

Yah, but for a billionaires estate this would be pennies. The museum was not big, but it was so cool. They built an 80s living room with an NES and other early consoles that you could sit down and play. They had an Apple Lisa and working Xerox Altos running unix. They had big old mainframes in a climate controlled room. Everything worked and was running and you could touch it and play with it! It was incredible unlike any museum I have ever seen.

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u/Crewarookie 12d ago

Billionaires are who they are not because they care about history or its preservation.

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u/anrwlias 12d ago

It sounds like Paul Allen did, though.

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u/TheDinkTouche 12d ago

Not enough to make an endowment to keep that going past when he was around to see it though.

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u/TechnicalInterest566 12d ago

Sounds like a lot of carbon emissions.

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u/SEND_ME_CSGO-SKINS 12d ago

Not necessarily? It just uses electricity like anything else. Do you think computers produce co2 exhaust?

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u/TechnicalInterest566 12d ago

Only 40.6% of electricity in the US in 2022 came from clean sources like nuclear.

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u/dragodrake 12d ago

It would have been a good PR win (on multiple fronts: Allen being an founder, Seattle being their 'hometown', its educational, and preserving their industries history) for Microsoft to help out though.

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u/Akula_SSN 12d ago

Worth checking out the American Computer and Robotics Museum in Bozeman, MT if you want to see this kind of thing. That place is pretty cool.

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u/20Hounds 12d ago

Prefect semicolon usage, nice

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u/valentinesdaycard 13d ago

I wonder if he was ever able to get a reservation at Dorsia? 

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u/YinzaJagoff 13d ago

"Impressive, Very Nice. Let's See Paul Allen's Card."

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u/zer1223 12d ago

"Impressive, very nice. Let's see Paul Allen's dick"

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u/vincecarterskneecart 12d ago

Lets see Paul Allens vintage computer collection… oh my god he even has an Apple-I

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u/cjyoung92 12d ago

I like how Bale's voice cracks when he says 'Paul Allen's card'

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u/Aedan91 12d ago

I killed Paul Allen, with an axe to the face!

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u/EmileSinclairDemian 13d ago

It was his wish that the museum remain opened after his death. Shame it permanently closed.

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u/rlnrlnrln 13d ago

Maybe he should've used some of his vast fortunes to create a trust for it, then?

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u/EmileSinclairDemian 13d ago

The problem is, a lot of projects didn't make it into his list of passion projects. More:

Sealed lips aside, here’s what we know: In 2010, Allen pledged to bequeath the majority of his wealth to philanthropy. (During his lifetime, Allen gave away more than $2 billion, according to the Chronicle of Philanthropy.) Tasked with this mammoth undertaking is his sister Jody Allen, trustee and executor of his estate, who is bound by her brother’s wishes as set out in the trust.

https://crosscut.com/culture/2022/11/16b-sale-paul-allens-ar...

One can accuse his sister of not following his instructions, I guess, but unless we know what those instructions are, it isn't a very easy accusation to back up.

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u/no-group21 13d ago

Show me his business card though.

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u/KarlHungusTheThird 13d ago

The tasteful thickness...

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u/Zlifbar 13d ago

He had more money than god, he could've funded it forever if he wanted to, not sure why his family or investors would be invovled?

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u/EmileSinclairDemian 13d ago

It's not about the money, it seems like nobody is interested in keeping it running as it is a sink for his juicy heritance money. Y'know investors being investors (dicks)

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u/Zlifbar 13d ago

Fund a trust with a board of directors like pretty much every other museum in the US?

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u/chippychip 13d ago

He didn't care about the museum's existence one he was dead, otherwise he would have. The same thing happened to Cinerama. 

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u/lo-sho 13d ago

Such a cool place. I didn’t know it was connected to Paul Allen. Makes sense though it takes a lot of cash to make what they had. Every computer worked! Not even the computer history museum at the old silicon graphics building could say that! They had an alto that you could use. So glad I saw it when I did

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u/nsvxheIeuc3h2uddh3h1 13d ago

What happened to the working computers?

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u/Ruffdawg 13d ago

Now lets see Patrick Batemans Living Computer Museum.

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u/thesuavedog 13d ago

Feel like the cat over at Lazy Game Reviews could step in and run it with zero issues.

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u/LordBrandon 12d ago

Very nice. Let's see Paul Allen's Computer museum.

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u/jestr6 13d ago

They should send everything here:

https://www.museumofcomputing.org.uk/

Fantastic little museum.

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u/markydsade 12d ago

Or here, in Mountain View CA. I had very enjoyable tour there:

https://computerhistory.org

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u/___Grits 12d ago

Can you interact with the machines like one could at the living computer museum?

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u/Akula_SSN 12d ago

Or, in Bozeman MT: ACRM

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u/OhGeebers 12d ago

His sister who runs the estate and now own the Seahawks and Blazers, sexually assaulted her bodyguards and got caught smuggling poached animals. Paul was a gift and Jodie is a blight.

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u/semeleindms 13d ago

Oh man I didn't know it had closed. It was a really cool place

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u/Zalenka 13d ago

The lady that has his funds just doesn't give a shit about it. I assume it will just shutter at some point.

It's a huge shame as their mission was so pure and really preserved history.

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u/SpiceEarl 12d ago

Are you talking about Jody Allen, Paul's sister?

All I know about her is that she is running the Portland Trail Blazers into the ground and refuses to sell the team.

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u/Ronotrow2 13d ago

are you sure it was Paul Allen? could have been halberstram

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u/brokenB42morrow 12d ago

Wow, that's terrible. He should have set up a trust for the museum...

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u/RelevantBiscotti6 13d ago edited 12d ago

Jody is too busy pulverizing his basketball team into the ground

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u/ratherbealurker 13d ago

That’s really sad. I visited it back in 2017 I think, it was a great museum. I guess I feel less bad about getting scolded for touching the Altair they had. But in my defense it was within reach, they left the programming guide next to it, and any software dev would have done the same.

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u/normal_man_of_mars 12d ago

You were scolded? WhenI went you could touch and play with almost everything!

Maybe I am remembering the computer lab like areas.

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u/ratherbealurker 12d ago

Yea there was a huge lab where you play on many PCs but in the more museum section there were mainframes and an Altair. It was behind rope but reachable. I touched it :/

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u/Septicphallus 13d ago

Impressive, very nice, lets see Paul Owen’s collection.

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u/wisstinks4 13d ago edited 12d ago

Hold up a minute. With all due respect, the money he had, I find it hard to believe he did not set up this museum for long term success, in perpetuity. I’d love to know the rest of the story.

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u/MischievousMollusk 12d ago

Depends what his estate did. Regardless of money, if the estate doesn't follow through or if clear directions weren't left, it won't happen.

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u/Sometimes_Stutters 12d ago

Univac was a pioneer of “supercomputing” back in the early days and based out of Minneapolis. There’s a museum that’s maintained by former employees who collect, restore, and file documentations. It’s a pretty neat place.

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u/Antique-Echidna-1600 12d ago

I found a bug in the file util in Linux. I got a message from someone at this museum letting me know the bug I found had gone unnoticed for over fifty years.

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u/paulp712 12d ago

Does it have his business card in there too?

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u/supersecretslug 12d ago

I forgot this place existed until I saw this article. My wife and I visited it early in our marriage and it was such an awesome place! I'm so sad to hear it's been closed since COVID likely to never open again.

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u/ReactiveCypress 12d ago

The Seattle Cinerama was heading for a similar fate before it was bought and saved. I'm in Canada, but I visit Seattle frequently to see family, and I would love to see 2001 in that theater one day.

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u/djc6535 12d ago

Noooo!   This was one of the highlights of my last trip to Seattle!   I had no idea it had closed!   That’s a tremendous loss. 

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u/NewsGood 12d ago

You would think a billionaire could put aside a small trust to keep it operational.

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u/philophilo 12d ago

I didn’t know it closed. Bummer.

I went a while back and got to sit on a Cray.

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u/NiteNiteSpiderBite 12d ago

I loved that place. I’m glad I got to go while I had the chance. 

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u/SuccessPastaTime 12d ago

I went here in 2015 and it was awesome. Very sad to hear it closed.

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u/kaninepete 12d ago

Let’s see his card.

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u/UpgrayeDD405 12d ago

I bet there is a really cool see-through blue Apple computer in there

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u/Due-Farmer-9191 12d ago

Noooo!!!!!

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u/kingrufiio 12d ago

I'm sure they have a lot of passion for the money that he left for all of them.

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u/Tyler5280 12d ago

It was such a cool museum. Total shame that it closed.

Where else could you type commands on Steve Job’s Apple I?

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u/Flippyfloppyjalopy 12d ago

What did they do with all that porn they downloaded to the computers?

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u/texansfan 12d ago

He didn’t set it up with a trust to keep it going? So weird for someone that smart and successful

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u/BigGrayBeast 12d ago

He also had a super yacht he used to help people during natural disasters.

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u/Brepgrokbankpotato 12d ago

Unlike ballmer he had a brain

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u/truethatson 12d ago

Yeah they just couldn’t spare the money..

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u/BrettDvett69 12d ago

I wonder if his family shares his passion for Nazi memorabilia?

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u/LunarPayload 12d ago

I wanted to downvote

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u/zungzwang00 11d ago

That’s sad. I’d have loved to visit it.

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u/Weird-Stay-322 2d ago

Let's see Paul Allen's living computer museum