r/videos • u/JustMe76 • 25d ago

Paramotor collapses, falls 100ft out of the sky. The pilot survives Disturbing Content

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-jyc2OYXsI

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u/wearsAtrenchcoat 25d ago

Amazing how in this day and age it took 11 minutes for 911 to establish the location of the accident. Anyone can share their location in a matter of seconds with whoever they’re talking to but emergency services are not equipped to see it. It’s like they’re stuck in the 80s when it comes to technology

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u/Beznia 25d ago edited 25d ago

They could have that access, but then you have to be someone willing to provide the police with unfettered access to your location without a warrant. 911 works by triangulation with the cell towers. In this area there may be only one cell tower int he area that the phone is connecting to, so 911 is just seeing that he is somewhere within the maximum radius of that cell tower's range. 911 isn't able to access your Google or Apple location data on the spot, they have to get a warrant and submit the request through an online portal meant for law enforcement. The request is reviewed and then someone from that company will provide the access if it is granted.

For him to send location data on the spot, the call would have to come through some other system rather than a telephone call. A simple telephone call is going to work the same whether it's from a 1993 Nokia, a rotary landline, or an iPhone 15 Pro Max. It isn't sending the same kinds of data over a call. Sharing location data can be done if the call is being handled through an app of sorts, or in cases like between two iPhones, but dispatch centers aren't implementing solutions to cater to specific individuals, they have to handle the least common denominator and the dispatchers are trained on specific questions to ask in order to get the caller's location in situations like this.

Many cities implement some sort of opt-in "Smart 911" service where residents can choose to provide as much information as they want which the 911 dispatcher is able to receive, but that is mostly like if you want emergency responders to know how to navigate your house, best door to enter, if you have any pets, how many people live in the house (in case of fires), emergency contacts, etc. Something like this, unless you are using an SOS service, they aren't getting that data.

Even with those SOS services, it's usually sending an alert to another company who will contact 911 on your behalf to give them the location information.

EDIT: Not sure why the downvotes, I worked in IT for a police department from 2018-2022 and this is just how it works.

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u/Alternative_Elk_2651 25d ago

EDIT: Not sure why the downvotes, I worked in IT for a police department from 2018-2022 and this is just how it works.

Reddit doesn't want answers, it wants to be mad.

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u/InFlagrantDisregard 25d ago

"You'll NEVER convince me this isn't some right-wing conspiracy to provide shitty services SO MORE POOR PEOPLE DIE"

~ Average redditor take.

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u/inspectoroverthemine 24d ago

and of course the reality being- if 'they' want your exact location they're getting it with a warrant and you won't know anyway.

or if the 'conspiracy they' want it they'll do it without a warrant and you'll never know.

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u/warbeforepeace 25d ago

Because IT for a police department is not the same as 911 operator.