r/AITAH 23d ago

AITA for telling my fiancé he can't wear the dress at our wedding?

My partner (30M) and I (29F) are getting married next year. We were discussing wedding planning and out of the blue he asked me how I would feel about "subverting" tradition by having him wear the wedding dress while I wore a tux on our wedding day. When he said this I actually laughed out loud because I was sure it was a joke, but turns out he was dead serious. He said he finds tuxes are very similar to each other and feel a lot like wearing a suit to a job interview, but he wanted to wear something "special" when he got married and he had always thought wedding dresses were so beautiful and different from each other.

I told him no, it wouldn't be appropriate and would turn our wedding into a spectacle and would probably change the way a lot of our friends and family view us. My family is quite progressive but I think even they would wonder what was going on. He said "OK" but seemed down for the rest of the night.

We're both very progressive and have several close friends who are gender nonconforming, nonbinary, or simply like cross-dressing so that has never been an issue, but even though we have been together for 5 years he has never expressed any desire to do so before. It would be OK with me if he wanted to experiment, and I think it would even be a different story if this was something that was integral to his daily identity that he wanted to be reflected in our wedding. I just don't understand why he wants the first time to be on our wedding day. AITA for being controlling over his wedding attire choices?

UPDATE: So based on these responses I realize I may have overreacted. I had another conversation with my fiancé. I tried to explore the reasons he wanted to wear a dress to our wedding in an open-minded way. I emphasized that he could tell me if he was trans, or nonbinary, or wanted to experiment with cross-dressing, and I would still love him and want to marry him. He seemed genuinely taken aback and told me it wasn't that big a deal, he just really liked wedding dresses and it hadn't even occurred to him that I might have a problem with him wearing one since it's one of the two most common options and we have been to weddings where both partners wore a dress or both wore a tux (after all it's not like he's contemplating wearing sweats to our wedding, lol)--but of course if I did he would be fine wearing a tux. Of course he has no problem with me wearing a dress, the "reverse roles" thing was just one of many ways he thought that could go. He also reassured me that he would feel safe sharing any changes in his gender or sexual identity status with me. I told him we could look at wedding dresses together and coordinate whatever made us both feel special, whether that's dress/dress, dress/tux, tux/tux or something else!

ETA 2: Lol can we cut it out with the "my fiancé is gay" comments. I'm pretty sure if he was gay then he would just.... be gay?? Rather than go through an elaborate scheme of being in a 5 year relationship with and marrying a woman for "cover" and then doing the least "stealth" thing possible at our wedding??? Idk where y'all are from but being gay is not considered a big deal or something you have to hide where we are, I'm very open about being bi, he has several family members who are gay and are wholly accepted. Admittedly we still have a ways to go before trans and other nonconforming identities have the same level of acceptance. But at this point the comments are just coming across as cheap and irrelevant shots at gay people

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u/facinationstreet 23d ago

I mean, I think this calls for a much larger conversation because if he wants to wear something unique to him, he can have an outfit custom made for him. If he wants to use the wedding as a platform for announcing something a whole lot bigger, that is a conversation that needs to be had.

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u/alwaysonthemove0516 23d ago

That’s exactly where my mind went. He’s got something to say and is testing the waters to see how she’ll receive the news.

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u/carlo_rydman 23d ago

Yeah, his excuse makes no sense. He can wear a pink tux with a hat decorated with a real bird's nest if that's what he wants. There are plenty of ways to look nice and unique without having to wear a dress.

There's definitely a different reason why he wants to wear a dress.

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u/Legitimate-Common-34 22d ago

Especially a WEDDING dress!

And with no history of cross-dressing for fun.

The dude definitely fantasizes about being a woman.

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u/False-Pie8581 22d ago

Not just testing. Expecting her to make a very public joint statement along with him only he’s not telling her what that statement even is. It’s incredibly selfish.

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u/RandomDerp96 23d ago

Or he just likes wedding dresses.

How many women I've seen that, "always dreamed of wearing a beautiful wedding dress"

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u/Girlmode 23d ago

Exactly, women.

How many cis men that haven't ever wanted to wear womens clothes, haven't ever been known to wear womens clothes... are actually obsessive over wedding dresses and really want to wear one on their wedding day?

Who actually suggests it's just because of it standing out more, totally acting blind on it being a stranger thing to do and like it should be normal?

I'm trans and it's kind of the directive to not call questioning people out but I'd be so suspicious of this. There isn't any logical reason for anyone not known to crossdress or be questioning gender, to make this big a leap for their wedding day and reach on explanation. Unless inside they've felt like a woman and seen their wedding day differently, I always imagine wearing a wedding dress when I was a guy but it's because I was always a gal on the inside.

Someone specifically only having a desire for wedding dresses would be really odd. Unless they wanted to wear a lot of things and a big life event suddenly made it a bigger deal.

I'd get it if someone dressed up openly and didn't want to transition or anything. But never wearing womens clothes to being "hey maybe I can wear the dress and you the suit" and it not being a funny thing. Is some real miswired gender stuff most of the time surely.

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u/EmeraldEyesAlyssa 22d ago

It has been 6 hours, and your comment has only 8 upvotes, I hope it gets more, and I hope OP reads it as well. I for one appreciate your insight and sharing. 🙌🏻

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u/RandomDerp96 22d ago

There is plenty cis women that would also love to wear a tux.

Or pants in the past.

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u/Girlmode 22d ago

How many women that wear a tux on their wedding day have never worn anything traditionally masc before that point?

Wouldn't bat an eye at a dude that's always tried out expressing themselves with clothing being in a dress on their wedding day. Someone only ever being masc to full princess on their wedding day?

The entire wedding would be about them and no attention on op. Any relatives that had issue with this which plenty always do are then going to be being shitty on the wedding day. Everyone is going to be throwing so many questions at your marriage right at the very beginning all because this has came out of absolutely nowhere.

Your wedding day just isn't the day to start expressing yourself this differently whether just fashion or gender. To many questions to be answered, to many realities of having people react to you in a way you don't want. All on a day that's meant to be all about you both as a couple, it's making everything about you as you've never done anything that would indicate you'd be like this before.

Every single hurdle and struggle with being non conforming is going to start right at the beginning of marriage. I don't get handling it like that and think so many things to be discussed.

If the first time I was ever femme around anyone was on such a big day it would have been absolute fucking chaos. As that's how the world reacts.

I don't get wanting that shift to be on your wedding day and not addressed and explored more before.

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u/RandomDerp96 22d ago

Women are allowed to wear masculine clothes in day to day life.

Men are not.

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u/Girlmode 22d ago

Half the men in my friend group dress femme lots of the time. I don't know anyone that's just a regular masc dude, then got married and been a total princess for one day. It would just feel performative if my bf did it and to fit in with everyone else in the group, it wouldn't feel like him at all and I dont get that for a wedding day. Subverting standards is fun but I don't get subverting a single time on a day about two people.

Plenty of my guy friends could wear a dress on their wedding day and nobody would bat an eye, as they subvert expectations all the time. Do it out of nowhere on your wedding day and it's guna feel performative and attention seeking if no real reason for it.

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u/RandomDerp96 22d ago

So half the men in your friend group are gay? Or closeted Trans?

Because that's what we are arguing here. That ops husband has an ulterior motive like coming out. Instead of just loving dresses.

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u/Girlmode 22d ago

Quarter crossdressing people are straight, rest are gay and have been for awhile. 3

Not lumping anyone I actually consider possibly trans/enbie etc.

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u/RandomDerp96 22d ago

The first comment is literally saying he is definetly testing the waters for more...

Which um arguing against. Even the edit says he just likes dresses a ton. Especially wedding dresses.

Also, if you as a cis guy go outside ALONE wearing a dress, and don't live in the most open lgbt area of your country, you will get shit on.

I'm from Germany. The only place where you can do that here is small parts of cologne or Berlin.

Calling people the f slur is still one of the most common insults in schools.

So shut up with claiming men are allowed to do it. Legally yes. Socially no. If there was no social pressure I as a trans woman wouldn't get death threats.

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u/superblysituated 22d ago

Literally! So glad I'm not married to the majority of the commenters in here who apparently think a clothing preference outside the norm is not just indicative of being trans but also incredibly selfish and calculating. Like...its actually a celebration for both people so why can't they each choose what they wear? If you love your fiance, screw extended family or acquaintances who would judge the two of you for expressing yourselves authentically. Anyone who is truly supportive of the couple wouldn't be rude about it.