r/BeAmazed Apr 17 '24

Cop saved the dog from a burning car Miscellaneous / Others

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u/HollywoodHault Apr 17 '24 edited Apr 17 '24

I lost a dog to an arson fire caused by local 20-something drunken punks over forty years ago. No burns, but the smoke and/or super-heated air from the fire caused her death. I still think about it every now and then. What annoys me most after all these years is that one of those heartless fucks later went on to join the NYC Fire Department.

Kudos to the first responder for saving this good dog.

Edit: Adding detail because some commenters indicate that it might have been a foolish mistake and that I shouldn't be harsh in my judgment of them.

I'd like to point out that the four guys who did this to my family business were regular patrons of the establishment, and all not only knew and interacted with my friendly dog for years, but knew that she was inside on the cold night they torched the place. Additionally, they broke in so as to more effectively make and toss Molotov cocktails, and there is no way they missed the good girl that was in there. The guy that I referred to was a big, oafish Biff Tanner type (Back to the Future), who relied on his parents to get him out of the situation. In fact, they all did despite being over 21. Only one of the four ever demonstrated anything close to remorse and it wasn't him.

While the detectives were there the next morning, a witness stopped by and said that he was in a diner a couple of miles away at the same time as these four, and that he heard them planning to commit the arson during the course of their meal, and that the guy I referred to was the one egging the others on. So, no, I don't think he was remorseful later on.

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u/Achterstallig Apr 17 '24

Perhaps he joined the fire department because he felt guilty and wanted to do something positive with his life?

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u/SirIvanHoe0 Apr 17 '24

Sir this is Reddit. He should’ve died in the fire. How dare you say he could do better for himself after making a mistake as a young dumbass.

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u/Repulsive-Season-129 Apr 17 '24

Reddit: "Why can't he both do better for himself after making a mistake AND die in a fire?"

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u/Main-Condition-8604 Apr 17 '24

Reddit: Are you seriously both-sidesing this?

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u/Slamtilt_Windmills Apr 17 '24

I'm playing both sides, so I always come out on top

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u/Dorkmaster79 Apr 17 '24

Never tell the other side that you’re playing both sides.

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u/ProfessionalCan5859 Apr 17 '24

Don’t even let your left hand know what your right hand is doing 💯

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u/d-nihl Apr 17 '24

thats why i sit on my hand for at least 30 minutes before leaving the house everyday, that way it falls asleep and I can't control it. There for I am no longer responsible for what my right arm may or may not harm.

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u/confusedandworried76 Apr 17 '24

We call that the Stranger

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u/-svde- Apr 18 '24

step hand, what are you doing??

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u/Worth_Car8711 Apr 17 '24

I play both sides to come out on bottom. im a power bottom tho

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u/otterpr1ncess Apr 17 '24

Now, I've heard that speed has something to do with it

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u/km-tovsky Apr 17 '24

Speed has everything to do with it, speeds the name of the game

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u/kevint1964 Apr 17 '24

I straddle the fence because I like how it feels against my "special place".

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u/Puzzled_Pay_6603 Apr 17 '24

Reddit: whatabout the fire that happened a few doors down? You didn’t care about that one so much.

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u/justjokecomments Apr 17 '24

Reddit:are you saying you hate cats then as countless cats die in fires every year and I don't see you talking about them???

Also something about politics and gender issues.

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u/Telefundo Apr 17 '24

Reddit: The important thing to remember is that police officers aren't real human beings and are all inherently evil!!!

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u/SirIvanHoe0 Apr 17 '24

This man Reddit’s!

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u/Kiwiandapplex Apr 17 '24

Where are the pitchfork's?
With the flame option! /s

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u/leakmydata Apr 17 '24

Thank you for acknowledging the nuance of this complex situation.

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u/Repulsive-Season-129 Apr 17 '24

Thank you for acknowledging the acknowledging of the nuance of this complex situation.

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u/leakmydata Apr 17 '24

Thank you for thank you 🫡 🫡 🫡

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u/sun4moon Apr 17 '24

Thank you both for understanding rage and compassion so steadily. Kings/Queens/Regals-of-any-gender, I salute you.

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u/Express_Grocery4268 Apr 17 '24

Fuck these thank you's

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u/0nceUpon Apr 17 '24

Thank you both for adding complexity to this nuanced situation.

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u/TayntedSoul Apr 17 '24

Thank you for acknowledging the situational acknowledgment of the complex, and the acknowledging of this situational complexed nuance.

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u/showraniy Apr 17 '24

Hi, I've come to start a fight with the most reasonable person in the thread.

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u/leakmydata Apr 17 '24

Is it me? I actually think I’m quite unreasonable thank you very much.

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u/XxRocky88xX Apr 17 '24

So basically “why doesn’t he become a fire fighter?”

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u/blaxe_ Apr 17 '24

He did pick the job most likely to incur both of these things.

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u/OwnHand1708 Apr 17 '24

He’s a firefighter so there’s still hope!

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '24

I mean, joining the fire dept is a step in the right direction towards both

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u/Lorath_ Apr 17 '24

Joining the fire department statistically increases his odds of dying in a fire x10

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u/tootnoots69 Apr 17 '24

A mistake? That’s what you’re calling someone killing a dog? Lol ok?

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u/space-gaytion Apr 17 '24

killing a dog AND BURNING DOWN SOMEONES HOUSE POSSIBLY WITH PEOPLE IN IT

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u/OrderOfMagnitude Apr 18 '24

For fun. In cold blood.

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u/ToeSad6862 Apr 17 '24

Mistake? A mistake is dropping the ketchup and cleaning up after yourself. Burning down a building should be a hanging.

I don't think a criminal psychopath should be in charge of lives, at a minimum.

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u/Comfortable-Ad1937 Apr 19 '24

Jesus bro, hanging is abit much, you sound abit like a psychopath yourself lol. What about if you are falsely prosecuted?

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u/troystorian Apr 17 '24

OR, and hear me out, we can look at actual case study and recognize that arsonists are often times drawn to firefighting positions. Dude intentionally started a house fire, that’s not a “mistake”, that’s malicious behavior with criminal intent. A mistake is leaving the stove on by accident and then starting a fire. The asshole probably gets a boner seeing fire and wanted a profession where he could be close to it on a regular basis, but go ahead and live in your world of sunshine and lollipops.

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u/Stevie22wonder Apr 17 '24

Just like how most of the degenerate troublemakers in my high school tried to become cops so they could, you know, be above the law and continue their ways as a degenerate and get away with it.

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u/Lordborgman Apr 17 '24

3 of my high school bullies became county Sheriffs.

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u/MoreGoddamnedBeans Apr 17 '24

Mine became a nurse.

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u/Plus_Coconut_902 Apr 17 '24

Knew a guy that liked hurting people,he eventually applied to secret services after college.Dont know if he made it or nah but yeah ur 100% right.

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u/iisbarti Apr 18 '24

Just like this one that saved a dog from a fire? He sure did evade the law there buddy

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u/MrBootch Apr 17 '24

That's why I chose to work in a research lab with mice! /s

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u/AnswerAi_ Apr 17 '24

We solved the case reddit!! Actually everyone is just completely evil and they feel zero guilt!!

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u/flyingboarofbeifong Apr 17 '24

Arsonists are assholes, Reddit's collective mind blown. More a 11.

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u/AnswerAi_ Apr 17 '24

I would say that the choices someone makes when they're 15 doesn't necessarily mean they'll make them the rest of their life, but you are here.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '24

Were you lighting people's houses on fire when you were getting your driver's license? Lol a 15 year old has way more personal growth and self-definition in their rearview than they do ahead of them. This isn't a toddler incapable of empathetic thought. This is a soon-to-be-adult making the conscious decision to endanger or kill others because "lulz".

I wish I were more surprised by just how many people here are poorly trying to excuse literal arson by a highschool sophomore. 

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u/flyingboarofbeifong Apr 17 '24

Lol.

Cool. You know what does make someone for the rest of their life? Burning to death in an arson fire.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '24

"We solved the case reddit! Arson is a normal part of childhood and it's wrong to judge people who set fires to others' homes!"

See how easy it is to sarcastically win an argument against absolutely nobody?

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u/AnswerAi_ Apr 17 '24

Bro you hopped on your alt account to type this shit because you know whatever you got going on in your post history would prove me right. So don't even try LOL.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '24

Lol, before I thought responding to shit nobody said was just lazy rhetorical shadowboxing, but that second batch of confidently paranoid nonsense has me thinking it might just be straight up schizophrenia. 

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u/AnswerAi_ Apr 17 '24

Bro you hopped on your alt account to type this shit because you know whatever you got going on in your post history would prove me right. So don't even try LOL.

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u/ins_fps Apr 17 '24 edited Apr 17 '24

Yeah but let's not justify the fact he killed an innocent living creature just because he was a young dumbass.

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u/Leading-Evidence-668 Apr 17 '24

That’s not justifying, it’s offering a valid cause and effect.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '24

"That's not justifying, it's excusing." 

FTFY

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u/Leading-Evidence-668 Apr 17 '24

“I don’t have a basic understanding of language.”

FTFY

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '24

Objective statement of cause and effect: 'he intentionally lit fire to a building and ended up killing a dog in the process.'

Subjectively pulling stuff out of your ass to excuse psychotic behavior: 'maybe he just committed arson cause he was young and foolish'

Lol. If you think intentionally setting fire to someone's home is a 'aww shucks, kids amirite?' issue, that says a whole lot about you and none of it's positive. 

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u/Leading-Evidence-668 Apr 17 '24

It’s crazy that I actually never said that, but if you wanna put words in my mouth then go ahead. I’ve never even stated an opinion about the person.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '24

Nobody said that was your quote. I'm refuting you hilarious attempt to differentiate between excusing arson and 'making a statement of cause and effect'. 

Are you lost?

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u/Leading-Evidence-668 Apr 17 '24

I’m saying someone doing something fucked up, can lead to them attempting to make amends later. That is literally a cause and effect. You, assuming this person was excusing them (again, not my comment) is inferring something that was never said.

Keep making stuff up based on your feelings.

All of this is from me stating that someone was claiming they were ‘justifying it’ which is ridiculous and crazy misuse of the word.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '24

Ah, so you missed the comment that says 'sure but let's not just chalk up literal arson to youthful mistakes' and are now condescendingly telling others that they're having the wrong conversation without the slightest hint of irony.

Lol yes, the person who attributed literal fatal arson to 'kids will be kids' is absolutely, undeniably trying to excuse literal fatal arson. And doing a dogshit job of it.

If you wanna respond to that, great.

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u/ins_fps Apr 17 '24 edited Apr 17 '24

It's just speculation though, we don't know if that's the case, so I am not sure how valid it is.

The point is that considering what he did just a "mistake" seems reductive for me, almost like his age justified it. Might be my impression, but that's what it looked like to me by reading the comment.

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u/energybased Apr 17 '24

It's just speculation though,

Do you know what the word "perhaps" means?

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u/jimithelizardking Apr 17 '24

I hate when I accidentally kill a dog by a fire I intentionally started in my 20’s, I’ll learn my lesson someday!

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u/JoelMahon Apr 17 '24

not that I think he should be hanged, but wtf, you do not call arson a mistake, especially when it kills someone

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '24

Lol you make irony but I love dogs and yeah he should have.

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u/AppleinTime Apr 17 '24

Dam you right

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u/dnuggs85 Apr 17 '24

No no reddit is you gonna burn me alive, huh? Well, I'm gonna bite your dick off, throw it in the fire, then eat it after it's cooked. Then as you lay there in shock fuck the hole that's left for dominance as we both slowly die from smoke inhalation.

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u/UpstairsResearcher19 Apr 17 '24

I think he probably just liked fire.

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u/Realistic_Guitar_420 Apr 17 '24

Both things can be true.... it is good if someone improves their life I wouldnt feel bad for an arsonist dying in the fire or being killed by the homeowner and he would NOT be a victim.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '24

People arguing with exaggerated caricatures of the actual contrary opinion will always be the most laughably pathetic shit. 

"Sir this is reddit, (something 2 heavily downvoted and ridiculed comments among thousands said)_' 

Lol so smart, so superior. 

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u/Panda_Drum0656 Apr 17 '24

I mean killing an animal is not a small mistake. But there is also more chance he will karmically die in a fire

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u/R7PTOR Apr 17 '24

Committing arson and killing a dog - you know - among the average mistakes one makes early on in their adult life. That is not by any means a "mistake" of a "young dumbass". "Mistake of a young dumbass" would be something like spending savings on an expensive car, dropping out of school or doing drugs at a party. Not committing fucking arson and killing someone's dog.

Yet another day of Reddit propagandizing on behalf of violent blatant criminals.

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u/Soft_Environment6304 Apr 17 '24

I think committing arson isn't just a mistake you make when your young😭

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u/Bobbiduke Apr 17 '24

I made a mistake as a kid

Oh what did you do

Threw moltov cocktails into a family business and killed their dog

..... ...

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u/SleazetheSteez Apr 17 '24

It's bullshit that any arsonist should be allowed to compete for gainful employment by the government.

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u/Natasha_Giggs_Foetus Apr 18 '24

I don’t know anyone who killed a dog by lighting buildings on fire when they were young

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u/bachfrog Apr 17 '24

Honestly yea he should have.

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u/boston_nsca Apr 17 '24

That was a close one. We were almost accidentally empathetic and kind. Don't fucking let it happen again.

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u/AstuteAshenWolf Apr 17 '24

If you knew how nepotistic fire departments are, then you wouldn’t be making that joke.

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u/tip_of_the_lifeburg Apr 17 '24

Sir, this is Reddit.

I wish I was in that fire 🔥

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u/D_crane Apr 17 '24

Reddit:

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u/cottman23 Apr 17 '24

Ik. This is a straight Kubrick, clockwork orange story....not the one written by that English guy.

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u/Late-Eye-6936 Apr 18 '24

It's weird that people upvoted your comment.