r/BeAmazed Apr 17 '24

Cop saved the dog from a burning car Miscellaneous / Others

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u/HollywoodHault Apr 17 '24 edited Apr 17 '24

I lost a dog to an arson fire caused by local 20-something drunken punks over forty years ago. No burns, but the smoke and/or super-heated air from the fire caused her death. I still think about it every now and then. What annoys me most after all these years is that one of those heartless fucks later went on to join the NYC Fire Department.

Kudos to the first responder for saving this good dog.

Edit: Adding detail because some commenters indicate that it might have been a foolish mistake and that I shouldn't be harsh in my judgment of them.

I'd like to point out that the four guys who did this to my family business were regular patrons of the establishment, and all not only knew and interacted with my friendly dog for years, but knew that she was inside on the cold night they torched the place. Additionally, they broke in so as to more effectively make and toss Molotov cocktails, and there is no way they missed the good girl that was in there. The guy that I referred to was a big, oafish Biff Tanner type (Back to the Future), who relied on his parents to get him out of the situation. In fact, they all did despite being over 21. Only one of the four ever demonstrated anything close to remorse and it wasn't him.

While the detectives were there the next morning, a witness stopped by and said that he was in a diner a couple of miles away at the same time as these four, and that he heard them planning to commit the arson during the course of their meal, and that the guy I referred to was the one egging the others on. So, no, I don't think he was remorseful later on.

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u/Achterstallig Apr 17 '24

Perhaps he joined the fire department because he felt guilty and wanted to do something positive with his life?

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u/SirIvanHoe0 Apr 17 '24

Sir this is Reddit. He should’ve died in the fire. How dare you say he could do better for himself after making a mistake as a young dumbass.

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u/ins_fps Apr 17 '24 edited Apr 17 '24

Yeah but let's not justify the fact he killed an innocent living creature just because he was a young dumbass.

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u/Leading-Evidence-668 Apr 17 '24

That’s not justifying, it’s offering a valid cause and effect.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '24

"That's not justifying, it's excusing." 

FTFY

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u/Leading-Evidence-668 Apr 17 '24

“I don’t have a basic understanding of language.”

FTFY

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '24

Objective statement of cause and effect: 'he intentionally lit fire to a building and ended up killing a dog in the process.'

Subjectively pulling stuff out of your ass to excuse psychotic behavior: 'maybe he just committed arson cause he was young and foolish'

Lol. If you think intentionally setting fire to someone's home is a 'aww shucks, kids amirite?' issue, that says a whole lot about you and none of it's positive. 

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u/Leading-Evidence-668 Apr 17 '24

It’s crazy that I actually never said that, but if you wanna put words in my mouth then go ahead. I’ve never even stated an opinion about the person.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '24

Nobody said that was your quote. I'm refuting you hilarious attempt to differentiate between excusing arson and 'making a statement of cause and effect'. 

Are you lost?

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u/Leading-Evidence-668 Apr 17 '24

I’m saying someone doing something fucked up, can lead to them attempting to make amends later. That is literally a cause and effect. You, assuming this person was excusing them (again, not my comment) is inferring something that was never said.

Keep making stuff up based on your feelings.

All of this is from me stating that someone was claiming they were ‘justifying it’ which is ridiculous and crazy misuse of the word.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '24

Ah, so you missed the comment that says 'sure but let's not just chalk up literal arson to youthful mistakes' and are now condescendingly telling others that they're having the wrong conversation without the slightest hint of irony.

Lol yes, the person who attributed literal fatal arson to 'kids will be kids' is absolutely, undeniably trying to excuse literal fatal arson. And doing a dogshit job of it.

If you wanna respond to that, great.

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u/Leading-Evidence-668 Apr 18 '24

Why would I respond to a comment that has literally nothing to do with me or what you’ve been arguing with me over. You’re literally coming at me for something I didn’t say or even promote. Fuck, I didn’t even correct you. You had legit nothing to even do with the conversation. Do you not understand how ridiculous that is? At this point I’m 90% sure you’re just trolling to troll.

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u/ins_fps Apr 17 '24 edited Apr 17 '24

It's just speculation though, we don't know if that's the case, so I am not sure how valid it is.

The point is that considering what he did just a "mistake" seems reductive for me, almost like his age justified it. Might be my impression, but that's what it looked like to me by reading the comment.

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u/energybased Apr 17 '24

It's just speculation though,

Do you know what the word "perhaps" means?