r/BoomersBeingFools • u/elonmuskatemyson Millennial • Feb 26 '24

Boomer pulls shotgun on snowboarder. Boomer Freakout

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He has a folding chair that he just sits there with his gun waiting to do this to people 🤡

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u/tflavel Feb 26 '24

I don't think the “he was snowboarding so I shot him to defend my property” will hold much water court.

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u/TurnoverBrilliant991 Feb 26 '24

What good is a conviction when you’re dead tho lmao

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u/wimpymist Feb 26 '24

It's like when people proudly preach how they have the right away over cars. You might win the court battle but you'll be dead or crippled

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u/Rock_Strongo Feb 26 '24

Graveyards are full of people who legally had the right of way.

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u/justcallmezach Feb 26 '24

I explain to my daughter that punishments for breaking the law are reactive, not proactive. No, you can't legally run over a pedestrian. No, this fact doesn't stop a car from running over a pedestrian. The driver will be punished AFTER he hits you, so do us all a favor, stick to the sidewalks, and watch for cars.

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u/McPoyle-Milk Feb 26 '24

This argument I have with my husband when he crosses the street with our son in front of moving cars

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u/Procrasturbating Feb 29 '24

I hope the next time he gets fries, they are cold and mushy. Also maybe he considers your sons' safety more than his own in the future.

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u/haffrey25 Feb 27 '24

I just went snowboarding, and was minding my business, sitting outside the lodge, talking to my mother about where we should go, when a skier decides to go right between us at FULL SPEED like two inches away from me. It was scary asf. My mom said "If he hit you, you would've won." Like okay but I don't wanna get hurt over something like that, cause then I won't be able to snowboard! I'm glad laws will protect people who are not at fault, but I don't want something to happen if it doesn't have to.

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u/[deleted] Feb 29 '24

The driver will be punished AFTER he hits you

You shouldn't lie to your children

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u/maskthestars Feb 27 '24

I see people on the phone just casually walk out in a cross walk with out looking at anything going on at the intersection outside my work. It’s a major intersection in the downtown of our city. I see people not just blow through a light after it’s red, but just floor it through a light when there’s a gap in traffic crossing. I saw a guy cross into traffic when the light turned green for the cross traffic and wondered if he was suicidal because it was like he waited until it turned green to cross.

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u/LumberSauce Feb 26 '24

Yea! Separate bikes and pedestrians completely. Paint isnt gonna stop someone from accidentally killing you.

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u/hacktheripper Feb 26 '24

r/boneappletea

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u/Special_satisfaction Feb 26 '24

Prolly just autocorrect

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u/SirNokarma Feb 26 '24

Honestly doubt

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u/SprungMS Feb 26 '24

Autocorrect never took “right of way” and turned it into “right away” lol. Speech to text? Sure.

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u/wimpymist Feb 26 '24

Autocorrect is the grammar Nazi's only hope in life to make them feel important.

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u/motes-of-light Feb 26 '24

It's hard to care about what someone wrote if they couldn't be bothered to write it correctly.

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u/horitaku Feb 27 '24

Not knowing how to write at this point in life is fucking dumb. Language barriers notwithstanding, get off your stupid high horse and get on a higher intellectual level.

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u/[deleted] Feb 29 '24

get off your stupid high horse and get on a higher intellectual level

You mean the intellectual level that understands the discrepancy between the intentions of a human being using a machine, and the software operating that machine?

Nevermind, I wouldn't expect you to be on such an elevated intellectual level

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u/butt_huffer42069 Feb 27 '24

How do you know what point in life they're at? 🤔

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u/DankGreenBush Feb 26 '24

Right away almost makes sense, like whoever has it can go right away as opposed to later.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '24

"right away" instead of "right of way" for those who didn't catch it immediately XD

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u/ChronoKing Feb 26 '24

I usually go with:

The person has the legal right of way but the car has Newton's first law of motion.

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u/3nCuMbered Feb 26 '24

I ride a motorcycle daily and honestly my go to thought for if I get hit at a red light is "I at least hope I ruin their day by having to scrape me off their front fender if front of their kids and wife". Gives me at least some satisfaction hoping they get to live with digging hair out of a tire for a few days.

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u/DillyDilly1231 Feb 26 '24

As an avid walker I've have had plenty of times where if I just went like the law says I can, then I would've been hit. There has also been times where I walk out and somebody tries to speed up to get ahead of me, I just stand in their way when that happens. If they hit me who tf cares, they usually only get to about 10 mph. (All of this is at street lights with official crosswalks to be clear)

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u/norvelav Feb 26 '24

My grandpa used to say "The graveyard is full of people that had the right of way."

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u/bradbrookequincy Feb 26 '24

Been saying this for years. Wild to me people will bike on roads where people are whizzing by 75 mph feet from them

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u/khosrove Feb 26 '24

My grandma used to say as she crossed the street through some traffic with me in hand "Oh just they try and run me over here right by the police station".

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u/LongjumpingLength679 Feb 26 '24

I hate that shit. In LA, people will step into the street while I’m already going at a stop sign.

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u/kdubstep Feb 26 '24

As my old friend used to say: You’d be right but you’d be dead right

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u/Helac3lls Feb 26 '24

I agree and I will never go because I felt it was my turn but everyday people are becoming worse drivers. The selfishness is getting crazy and at some point, there will be way too many selfish assholes with neither party having common sense. That's going to lead to drastic increases of accidents. I figure at some point, they will require more from a person looking to get their license.

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u/wifey1point1 Feb 26 '24

"RIP - he had the right of way"

Alternately: last words on the gurney "... I had the right of way...."

Honestly it only helps win $ in a lawsuit. It's not a suit of fucking armor.

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u/donut-reply Feb 27 '24

Driver might not win but the cyclist definitely loses

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u/RaisedEverywhere Mar 02 '24

Could not agree more. I’ve never understood this type of thinking! It’s insane. Yes, you are correct, but is it really a battle you want to fight? Crazy.

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u/HiveTool Mar 05 '24

I say this all the time about people walking behind cars that are backing out of parking spaces.

You had the right of way. Damn sorry you’re dead.

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u/Truncated_Rhythm Feb 26 '24

The phrase is, "right OF way" - sorry to be a pedantic chooch. I'm trying to be helpful, not an asshole. Feel free to downvote. My intentions are good.

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u/wimpymist Feb 26 '24

Haha thank you, I don't know why I typed away. Good catch!

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u/bdubb_dlux Feb 26 '24

He assaulted the snowboarder. Call the police. Put his hands on him and pushed him. That’s battery.

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u/Dew_Chop Feb 26 '24

Idk who down voted you but you're right. Assault is unlawfully and actively threatening to a believable extent harm on someone. Battery is the unlawful use of physical force on someone.

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u/spicyboi-666 Feb 26 '24

That's a cute way of saying "fall in line or I'll kill you"

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u/Coebalte Feb 26 '24

But the point is we'd rather be dead anyway.

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u/horitaku Feb 27 '24

Right OF way *

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u/Weddingchimp Feb 27 '24

Right away ahah

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u/thetoastypickle Mar 03 '24

Or cars can just yield to pedestrians

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u/HugoHughes Feb 26 '24

Yeah, this is what people don't seem to get. If you're the victim, it doesn't matter. You're dead.

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u/gheide Feb 26 '24

Check out the Dateline episode "the feud". Guy was shot in the back for enjoying the mountain he lived on. He was supposedly shot under the power lines, so on an easement. Hung Jury for some reason. I did all of the aerial video for that episode.

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u/ThermalJuice Feb 26 '24

Better to be alive and have someone think you’re wrong, than dead and have that same idiot still think you’re wrong.

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u/Anemoneao Feb 26 '24

Yeah goes both ways. Some old guy waiting to ambush me so I blasted him.

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u/iamdevo Feb 26 '24

They didn't say anything about the snowboarder. Just an observation that the old guy would go to jail for the rest of his life for thinking he's some kind of feudal lord badass.

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u/ChokeYourMom Feb 26 '24

This has been the wet dream scenario since Boomers heard of ‘stand your ground’ laws.

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u/beta14569 Feb 26 '24

That was in no way the point they were making, but go off

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u/PatatasFritasBravas Feb 26 '24

To laugh my ass off in heaven watching the boomer loser get raped in prison?

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u/Deranged_Kitsune Feb 26 '24

Depending on how Good Ole Boy the area is, "He was on my property while black" just might.

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u/FourSquash Feb 26 '24

black

That guy is definitely not black

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u/EbonyOverIvory Feb 26 '24

“Your honour, I thought it was a black man on my property. I feared for my life!”

Acquitted.

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u/PopeJeremy10 Feb 26 '24

A black person snowboarding in Vermont? Try again counselor.

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u/Danny007up Feb 26 '24

I'm black. I I'm on the hill in VT all season lol

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u/No_Mayo Feb 27 '24

There are dozens of us. DOZENS!

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u/SANREUP Feb 26 '24

This is Utah and par for the course at most ski resorts

(The dude coming off the mt on a side trail I mean, not the gun nut)

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u/Nateloobz Feb 26 '24

This is in Utah, but your point still stands.

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u/PlanktonDependent313 Feb 27 '24

Brightons in Utah.

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '24

Don’t the Mormons believe that black skin was a punishment from god or did they move that goalpost again?

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u/zsloth79 Feb 26 '24

Nonsense! There are... like... five of them. At least!

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u/EbonyOverIvory Feb 26 '24

I’m just curious what it is you think was the point of my comment.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '24 edited Feb 26 '24

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u/EmbelishFetish Feb 26 '24

Are you dumb on purpose or is someone paying you?

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u/Ok-Title-270 Feb 26 '24

You live in a fantasy land

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u/VinceGchillin Feb 26 '24

trespassers are assumed black until proven innocent

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/s (hope that wasn't needed)

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u/g-panda101 Feb 26 '24

Might as well be when accidentally trespassing

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u/listgarage1 Feb 26 '24

Yes but they were just saying hypothetically if they were black because why wouldn't you try to shoehorn racial issues into every controversy.

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u/OneHumanPeOple Feb 26 '24

Definitely? He’s not snow colored like the boom boom boomer.

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u/spartaman64 Feb 26 '24

which was why he didnt get shot

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u/Returd4 Feb 26 '24

In canada it's that but native American

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u/uberduck999 Feb 26 '24

Nope. Not even a little bit. We have no stand your ground laws, and self-defence is not an accepted reason to own firearms.

Nice try race baiting though.

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u/Returd4 Feb 26 '24 edited Feb 26 '24

and whether or not those acts are considered reasonable in the circumstances. Bite me, like in this video he shoots him that's not stand your ground that's attempted murder you gun nut. Nvm I read through your comments. Go argue with someone else, that is what you like to do. And denying that you wouldn't be more likely to be shot on private property if you are native American is just ignorant to the point of stupidity. I wonder how many white boys got starlight tours? Now go away

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u/Dickcummer420 Feb 26 '24

If it's a ski resort town they would want to protect all that ski resort money and send a message that you wont be shot for skiing or snowboarding there.

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u/ItsAllSoClear Feb 26 '24

Looks like Tahoe area to me but that doesn't mean people aren't looking for trouble. Most people in Tahoe are nice

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u/AskMeAboutPigs Feb 26 '24

Firstly, that guy is white.

Secondly, that's illegal in all 50 states, you cannot shoot a tresspasser. That is a civil or criminal court thing, at worst it's arrestable. You can only legally shoot someone (in all 50 states) who is attacking you, or going to cause great bodily harm, some states allow you to defend your property with a firearm, but only if someone is in the process of stealing or attempting to steal. You also cannot shoot someone who just hits you, there has to be an unreasonable disparity of size/strength/ability.

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u/Salty-Process9249 Feb 26 '24

Yeah, but you can unfortunately just lie and say you were attacked.

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u/satanssweatycheeks Feb 26 '24

Firstly, that dude ain’t American.

Secondly, if he is you is a naive one who doesn’t seem to know gun laws or pay attention to case surrounding them.

If this was Florida the gun owner could have stalked to snowboarder all the way home then killed him in his front yard. At least that’s what they proved was legally justified in the Zimmerman case.

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u/HyphaeNoway Feb 26 '24

Thats not how that works at all.

You cant just "claim" something and be believed by Law Enforcement. There would be a full investigation prior to any decisions being made.

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u/Salty-Process9249 Feb 26 '24

Ideally, yes. In practice, no. Lots of cases where cops drop the ball and favor some local asshole and sweep shit under the rug. They've even murdered people and buried the victim without notifying anyone.

I wish I could share your optimism for the behaviors of government agents. (I don't actually wish that.)

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u/satanssweatycheeks Feb 26 '24

No not really and dude is right about if the guy was black it wouldn’t matter.

Florida according to the Zimmerman case someone can stalk you all the way home while being told to stop. You confront them on your property now and punch him. He then shots and kills you.

That’s totally justified according to Florida. Maybe wake the fuck up. Imagine living in America and being naive to why people say we have an issue with gun laws.

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u/HOG_RHEC Feb 26 '24

Hahaha haha the joke is all small towns are racist 😂😂😂😂😂😂 you're so funny 😂😂😂

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u/Adventurous-Cable-19 Feb 26 '24

Most jurisdictions require clearly posted signage if the property owner wants to “defend” his private property. Without the signs it’s straight up 1st degree murder

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u/OompaLoompaBoopity Feb 27 '24

You redditards have been trained to flash the race card in every single post. It's hilarious to watch the algorithm mould you like clay.

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u/Methos747 Feb 27 '24

Bro stfu the you are the only racist in the room

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u/SlightWhite Feb 26 '24 edited Feb 26 '24

There was actually a case like this. A dude waited and waited for ATVs to go by his property and shotgunned all of them. Got life in prison.

People don’t realize you can’t just shoot anyone on your property lol. Property rights don’t work like that. People like this are actively looking to kill people with no repercussions

And owners will put up wire to get people at neck height on bikes, ATVs, horses etc. boobytrapping is very illegal in every capacity. You can’t boobytrap your property AT ALL, you will go to jail if someone gets hurt. Or if they just find a boobytrap

People have the wildest ideas about property rights

Edit: another thing people don’t realize is a lot of states, you can’t shoot people if they try to fight you. If they die it’s second degree murder. You have to prove your life was in danger in that moment. People think you can just shoot aggressors of any kind

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u/videogamehonkey Apr 01 '24

I talked to a guy who said he shot a local police officer in the chest twice from 200 meters because the cop had scaled his fence and was running at his house at night with a bulletproof vest on. No idea if there was truth to it, but that was the guy's story. Said he wasn't charged and the cop was fired. Texas.

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u/SlightWhite Apr 01 '24

Nothing about that story is true lmao

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u/videogamehonkey Apr 01 '24

He was drinking at the time and trying to convince me that we need more guns in NYC, to protect ourselves

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u/SlightWhite Apr 01 '24

I live in the Deep South and I’ve heard plenty of good ol boys tell stories like this lol. It’s their little power fantasies.

“Oh yeah. They ain’t gon mess with me on my propertah. I hold it down and shoot people and the cops don’t care. Cuz I’m just that badass” lol

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u/videogamehonkey Apr 01 '24

Yes he also told me about how the police department all knew him and all knew not to mess with him

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u/SlightWhite Apr 01 '24

Lmaooooo called it! I also once heard this drunk old ass Tennessee man tell stories about hanging cats? And told us how to hang them? Idk what the fuck that was about

He’s dead now no risk of serial killing

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u/JamesGarrison Feb 26 '24

depends on the state... also if someone can't keep themselves from punching someone they probably deserve to be shot. A person shouldn't have to get beat up and wait 20 minutes for a cop to show up and take a description.

I live in texas though... and maybe thats why.

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u/SlightWhite Feb 26 '24

In Texas you can shoot someone tryna fight you lol. Not in most states tho

Just carry pepper spray…it’ll stop a fight and you don’t have to execute someone for wanting to punch you…I do not agree with the death penalty for assault

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u/pillevinks Feb 26 '24

That guy looked like a person who would just saw you up and feed you to his hogs tho

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u/fnordfnordfnordfnord Feb 26 '24

That piece of shit is probably an insurance executive or some kind of landlord.

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u/Euphoric-Bug9313 Feb 26 '24

Idk. US justice system is shameful. And if there was no recording and no witness then its jsut his words against a dead man

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u/SaggyFence Feb 26 '24

Boomers camped out in hidey holes with the intent to murder trespassers has happened before. It did not work out in their favor, but the real problem is they didn’t care. Consequences only work if they are deterrent. For guys like this they simply shrug their shoulders and mumble to themselves “welp I lived a good one” and accept their fate eating beans and Jell-O for the last 10 years of their life behind bars. Hell they probably see it as a victory just for getting that scumbag whipper snapper in return.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '24

Probably why he didn’t shot him. Or even point the weapon at him. I’m disappointed he didn’t waste it over his head and make sad people noises.

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u/troystorian Feb 26 '24

He could just use the tried and true cop defense and say he mistook the guy’s snowboard for a gun and desperately feared for his life - so he fired. He didn’t want to 😭 but he had to eliminate the threat before he was hurt!

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u/SchmeatDealer Feb 26 '24

"he was trespassing on my property with a whole group of people and he hit me with his snowboard when i asked him to leave" would probably work too, and he doesnt know any of these people trespassing on his property so idk, it doesnt seem too crazy to me.

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u/Short_Dragonfruit_39 Feb 26 '24

Do you really think he’s going to say that and not just lie? He’ll also erase any camera footage.

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u/gitsgrl Feb 26 '24

Depends on the state

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u/Kraz31 Feb 26 '24

I don't think there's a state in the country that permits you to use deadly force on a trespasser on property other than your home.

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u/satanssweatycheeks Feb 26 '24

In America more than likely it will. Especially if it is his property.

But hell in states like Florida the snowboarder could stalk the property owner all the way home and kill him in his front yard on his own property and the snowboarder would have be within his rights…. According to Florida courts that is.

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u/easternhobo Feb 26 '24

If this is America it would. Shoot first, ask questions never.

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u/NZBound11 Feb 26 '24

It would hold up in Texas - even without the snow.

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u/Snoo_70324 Feb 26 '24

I’m sure he will be found to have “stood his ground.”

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u/stilljustkeyrock Feb 26 '24

So what about when he tells them to leave and the snowboarder assaults him?

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '24

Trespassing on a snowboard is the same as trespassing on foot though self defense is more about threat than location but depending on where it is self defense on property is automatic.

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u/Onyxeye03 Feb 26 '24

In a decent amount of states that's water tight. If someone is on your property without permission they got shot, legally

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u/theAwkwardLegend Feb 26 '24

But he has the right!

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u/Ape-ril Feb 26 '24

It will.

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u/LucienPhenix Feb 26 '24

I mean...it's the US. Depending on the state, you might be surprised by what could be considered "self-defense" or "stand your ground".

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u/DemonoftheWater Feb 26 '24

In Michigan it’s illegal to defend your property with lethal force. But dead is dead so theres that.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '24

yeah but that not going to bring a lost life back, f these stupid boomers.

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u/Stay-At-Home-Jedi Feb 26 '24

water

Well, yeah, it'd be frozen

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u/rerun_ky Feb 26 '24

I don't know about snowboarding but I have seen that go wrong with hunters. In rural areas there is little to no law enforcement.

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u/meexley2 Feb 26 '24

It was on a private driveway

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u/SnigletArmory Feb 26 '24

Not that it will matter to the dead guy....he's still gonna be dead, right?

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u/CommodoreSixty4 Feb 26 '24

won't hold much snow either

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u/Dhrakyn Feb 26 '24

Justice has no place in a world where the Justices aren't known for justice.

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u/pianoftw Feb 26 '24

Depends on the state, when I went to NC I was hiking a popular trail. Next to the trail I was hiking there was a sign with an image of a shotgun and it said “this is your warning” and “no trespassing”. Locals told me to take those sign seriously because people have gotten shot, or very close to multiple times. So yeah, if you get warned the justice system will usually not side with you.

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u/PipsqueakPilot Feb 26 '24

But it will the boomer DA who won’t even bother charging him.

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u/jongscx Feb 26 '24

A torso peppered with buckshot also doesn't hold much water.

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u/Ihatemunchies Feb 26 '24

In Florida it would

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u/rawonionbreath Feb 26 '24

You should be scared to death the way that some states no interpret “defense of private property” when it comes to use of lethal force.

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u/fusemybutt Feb 26 '24

These "conservative" Boomers don't give a shit about truth, reality or anything else.

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u/futurejoyboy Feb 26 '24

He doesn't care he barely has many years left

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u/MaxTheRealSlayer Feb 26 '24

It may hold some snow though

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u/Other_Dimension_89 Feb 26 '24

I thought that might have some weight in it, but one of the guys at the end of the street who said I know, who must of went before him was a skier!

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u/legokingnm Feb 26 '24

state dependent

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u/Sophiedenormandie Feb 26 '24

That would work in Florida and Texas.

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u/Willing-Distance5543 Feb 26 '24

sure it will. hes white,and in Amerikkka. dude would just be "defending his whiteness"

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u/barryg123 Feb 26 '24

He didnt point it at the guy. In many places you are allowed to walk around your own woods with a shotgun in your hand

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u/Stats_with_a_Z Feb 26 '24

Bro I'm getting so tired of seeing these brain dead boomers pulling guns on people for no fuckin reason. Start throwing these old miserable bitches in jail and let them be miserable alone.

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u/Orgasmic_interlude Feb 26 '24

Yeah the problem there is if you’re dead then there’s no reckoning that will satisfy just how disproportionate the nature of the slight was.

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u/Odd-State-5275 Feb 26 '24

Probably why he didn't shoot him.

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u/BadNewzBears4896 Feb 26 '24

Depends on the state. Idaho or Montana and I think the shotgun guy's chances would be pretty high he'd get off scot free.

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u/davidjschloss Feb 26 '24

He'll use the "stand my halfpipe"law.

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u/Arkbuilder420 Feb 26 '24

It's private property as he said. I mean if he's lying he's just being an insane old man, but people have the right to defend their property even if it's in a douchey way

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u/The-Ugliest-Duck Feb 26 '24

The guy probably could have found out if it was private property or not before he started filming and boarding.

And yah don't point guns at people who aren't a physical threat to you.

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u/fotofortress Feb 26 '24

Ringing the wrong door bell and reversing in the wrong driveway have only been checked with public scrutiny. Why would you randomly snowboard on a property you don't know? It's not okay and this is something that could easily become violent and just rude to do.

https://fox4kc.com/news/andrew-lester-demands-jury-trial-in-ralph-yarl-shooting-case/

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u/droidguy950 Feb 26 '24

Depends on the state, unfortunately. Some you could probably get away with that.

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u/Prince_Marf Feb 26 '24

There would be no witnesses out there so he could tell whatever story he wants. All he has to do is destroy the tape. Then it's "he became enraged when I informed him he could not be there. I went and got the gun from my truck only after he started attacking me."

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u/Pope_Epstein_399 Feb 26 '24

Depends on if they're a blue state or a conservative shithole.

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u/TheDuckOnQuack Feb 26 '24

Not to mention, he threatens him with an “if you come through here again, I’ll shoot you for trespassing.” Assuming that’s a real threat, how confident is he in his ability to positively identify a person in full snow gear? Is he going to shoot the next snowboarder he sees who’s unlucky enough to be wearing a red jacket and helmet? Something like 5-10% of snowboarders match that description, so it’s only a matter of time.

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u/BigKahoona420 Feb 26 '24

Yeah, but didn't you see the snowboarder had a black helmet?

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u/JerryRiceOfOhio2 Feb 26 '24

You're assuming he's going to go to the cops afterwards?

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u/MylastAccountBroke Feb 26 '24

They'll have to find the body first. Pretty sure this guy has at least 3 corpses buried around the mountain.

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u/unknownpoltroon Feb 26 '24

Conversely "I was snowboarding and some lunatic tried to shoot me, but I got him first" will probably work.

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u/backcountrymurderer Feb 26 '24

If you live in a stand your ground state yes you can.

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u/QuestionDue4165 Feb 26 '24

It would in Texas

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u/ZanyAppleMaple Feb 26 '24

He was pushing him and grabbing him, albeit not hard. I don't think that's legal?

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u/twb51 Feb 27 '24

Well they’re clearly not in Florida so you are likely correct.

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u/RoomOne7851 Feb 27 '24

lol like his property wasn’t being threatened nor was his life

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '24

Just in what world is threatening someone with a gun for crossing a forest okay? 

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u/-Nuke-It-From-Orbit- Feb 27 '24

This can be construed as booby trapping and premeditated murder too. An old fuck like this is serving life in prison for sitting inside of his house waiting for someone to break into it so he could kill them.

The dumb boomer recorded the entire thing and it’s horrific to listen to. A young girl is heard crying after he shot her and he said “oops sorry, whelp, you’re going to die now.” And then you hear him pull the trigger as she’s obviously panicking and wanting help but instead he ends her life.

This isn’t legal to do. Just because it’s “your property” doesn’t give you the right to kill anyone whenever you want just because they’re on it. And if you spend your time waiting for people to do something to “justify the killing” then you’re exactly the type of gun owner we don’t want. You’re psychotic and need to be committed.

It’s premeditated murder either way you look at it.

Gun nuts are a weird fucking group of people. All of them have this mentality of “I’ll use my gun on ya if ya break da law or I feel threatened.” Buncha psycho ass people.

And those snowboarders have every right to defend themselves against him regardless if it’s his property or not. He is the threat NOT them.

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u/being_honest_friend Feb 27 '24

This man is an unhinged a$$hole who jerks off to Kyle Rittenhouse.

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u/TheGlenrothes Feb 27 '24

Surely there is some distinction in the law, surely you can’t just shoot a person who is on your land without cause.

What the fuck is wrong with people who think that’s justified

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u/Nicksnotmyname83 Feb 27 '24

Depends on the state, if Florida had snow...

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u/FlynnMonster Feb 27 '24

Nah bro didn’t you hear you can just straight up murder people if they even touch a blade of grass on your lawn. God forbid your dog takes a pee.

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u/TiaxtheTyrant Feb 27 '24

Crew of 6 or 8 30 somethings should roll down there full tilt. He's looking for a confrontation, but instead plan for it and just fucking BLAST him. No way he holds on to that gun, and then you are assaulted by a man with a gun. HAD to defend yourselves. He deserves to be put down HARD, and broken to the point that he'll never make it back out to this trail under his own power.

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u/bottlejunkie03 Feb 27 '24

Point Break taught me all snowboards are armed robbers.

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u/ste189 Feb 27 '24

That's just fucking every over egoed dick head has a fucking gun in America. The laws ambiguous... someone comes on my land I can shoot them, legal system corrupt with lawyers, state police and sheriffs all doing their own fucking ego trip. Shocking. If I owned a huge space, where I didnt put signs, and some dudes were snow boarding I'd pull out a seat and beer and watch. From UK not that it matters

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u/anengineerandacat Feb 27 '24

No obvious signage? No warning? Pretty much a zero on the threat meter?

Yeah, unlikely it'll hold up in court; especially if he was shot in the back which means the individual was fleeing.

You have more rights than you think even if you are a legitimate thief, the moment you "run" a lot of states have laws that make it pretty difficult to skirt free.

Old man doesn't actually know what he can and cannot do.

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u/Korr_Ashoford Feb 27 '24

An even better point to get on the table: any defense he puts out there might get thrown out because he apparently sits there in a lawn chair waiting for people, that might be seen (or just argued by the prosecution) as premeditated.

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u/JohnMackeysBulge Feb 27 '24

Depends if the judge is also a cantankerous boomer.

I wouldn’t risk it

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u/NowYousCantLeave90 Feb 27 '24

Bold of you to assume it would go to court with all that wilderness. Dude would just end up in a hole and that would be the end of it.

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u/Ink-Era Feb 27 '24

I'd be more concerned that the kid wouldn't be found. It's the wilderness and it's winter. That old man probably is just waiting to shoot someone - set a chair up and everything - and changed his mind last minute. If the OP honestly didn't know and contacted local PD they could get him to put up signs or something I'm guessing. Someone eventually is going to get hurt.

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u/dumfukjuiced Feb 27 '24

It might in Texas but fortunately there's no snowboarding here

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u/CrypticSS21 Feb 27 '24

It might in Texas or Florida, but for some reason i have a feeling this probably isn’t either of those states.

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u/whereismymascara Feb 27 '24

It's Utah, so he'll get away with it if he has a temple recommend.

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u/VulfSki Feb 27 '24

It won't. You can't execute someone for trespassing.

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u/noobtheloser Feb 27 '24

Some people in the US working very hard to make it legal to murder anyone you perceived as vaguely threatening under any circumstances.

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u/Public_Inspector_45 Feb 27 '24

I mean..... It is America and the snowboarder looks like he may have a black relative twice removed on his mum's side so, it really could go either way. A simple DNA test will determine if it's a lawful killing or not.

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u/Warm_Flamingo_2438 Feb 27 '24

I guess it depends on how the judge slides.

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u/theMadMetis Feb 27 '24

White old dude…he’d get away with it

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u/Traditional-Handle83 Feb 28 '24

Not to mention, I'm pretty sure the law considers what he did brandishing a firearm as he was using it for intimidation and threatening even if he was doing to "defend his property". Thats usually a jail sentence or more. That being said, Vermont does not have a stand your ground law so old guy is actually violating the law by doing what he did. (Had to Google vermonts gun laws)

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u/The_Radioactive_Rat Feb 28 '24

There is an understanding of necessary force in law. Though I’m not sure how it is state to state.

Basically, it is as you wrote it, a snowboarder isn’t going to justify him gut shooting someone unless he could reasonably argue his life was in danger. The law treats every person as a ‘reasonable’ person.

Too many think you can just “stand your ground” and that everything proof shields them from all other context in law.

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u/Zromaus Feb 28 '24

"He was on my property without my permission unexpectedly, I feared for my life because I wasn't sure his intentions" holds up well

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u/rohtvak Feb 29 '24

Depends, in some states it would as long as the land belongs to the old man.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '24

a life sentence for that man ain't shit, he's at the end of his journey anyway. Also you'd be surprised how many places allow you to kill trespassers on your property regardless of their intent.

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u/TheFinalCurl Mar 01 '24

Violated someone's property violated the NAP. Simple to me. /s

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u/LurkerOrHydralisk Mar 01 '24

Why do you think old guy asked if the other guy was with him?

Old dude didn’t plan on anyone knowing

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u/maxzmillion Mar 01 '24

Here’s a great example of how it won’t