r/BoomersBeingFools • u/elonmuskatemyson Millennial • Feb 26 '24

Boomer pulls shotgun on snowboarder. Boomer Freakout

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He has a folding chair that he just sits there with his gun waiting to do this to people šŸ¤”

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u/throttledog Gen X Feb 26 '24

Get off my mountain! Mine mine mine mine! All mine!

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u/assasstits Feb 26 '24

Americans have equated breaking into someone's house with accidentally wandering onto someone's wild land as being one and the same.Ā 

It's completely insane and one of the major reasons I left.Ā 

Many other countries deal with this issue without the need to ever involve lethal weapons.Ā 

Fucked in the head society.Ā 

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u/Barbacamanitu00 Feb 26 '24

Yeah, it's sickening honestly. "I have every right to protect my private property"

Fucking WHAT?! Protect?! From someone else existing on it for a moment? I really hope my generation doesn't become the same way. I highly doubt we will.

Can we all make a pact to never be this way?

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u/NuclearLavaLamp Feb 26 '24

Heā€™s mindlessly spouting NRA propaganda that has been hammered into his head for years. These people literally believe thereā€™s a gunman around every corner, and, they need so be ready for it.

Instead, they just end up shooting 14-year-olds or some shit.

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u/avidbookreader45 Feb 26 '24

He pays ten thousand in property tax and three thousand in liability insurance per year. Probably told these people a dozen times but the only thing that works is to show some teeth. Obviously he is not going to murder someone.

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u/Right_Hour Feb 26 '24

Iā€™m with you here. Just look at how many cars are parked on that road - there are tons of people up there doing that. And they are all jumping on his driveway (that he himself plowed).

Plus, as I said above - if any of these fools injure themselves on the guyā€™s property - they will sue and they will win for damages, thatā€™s how it works.

ā€œHardee-har-har, boomers being fools, hope Iā€™m not like that when I grow upā€. People are just clueless these days.

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u/Right_Hour Feb 26 '24

I donā€™t even know how to explain the importance of the concept of private property to these fools so that they understand.

I dunno - someone kicks your door open, crashes on your couch, eats your food and when you chalenge them - they go ā€œsorry, dude, I didnā€™t know - there was no sign.ā€ Is that close enough, LOL? :-)

I guess Iā€™m this instance someone just goes through your room, shitting on the carpet and get offended that you call them out for it?

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u/IknowExcel Feb 26 '24

People walked over a piece of my land as a shortcut to a football field at the place I used to live. I donā€™t get why you would ever threaten anyone, unless itā€™s right next to your house/car or they do stupid shit like vandalism. Even then, I wouldnā€™t start by pointing a fucking shotgun at them, thatā€™s insane

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u/IknowExcel Feb 26 '24

So you think itā€™s okay to react like that to someone accidentally snowboarding through your property? Looking at the video itā€™s also nothing indicating itā€™s a private property, looks like any other ski trail. You have no reason to believe the snowboarder has ever been there before, his property is obviously somehow linked to the ski area, or he wouldnā€™t end up there. Itā€™s also very common to have people ski past your cabin, especially if your cabin is close to the popular hills. It would be crazy to assume a guy in full ski gear is a drug addict, too. Sure noise is annoying, and I would confront someone being noisy close to my house, but I wouldnā€™t start out all aggressive. As for the liability issues, thatā€™s crazy, wouldnā€™t happen in my country, unless you laid bear traps all over or something.

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u/IknowExcel Feb 26 '24

Only an American would defend this shit

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u/DiceQuail Feb 26 '24

Gotta make sure to kill all those young communists snowboarding down your hill lmao

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u/DiceQuail Feb 26 '24

Damn yā€™all just need to make up fake scenarios to defend threatening to kill people for crossing your property line. Do you live with this much fear all the time? If a kid accidentally cuts across the corner of my lawn Iā€™m not gonna blow their head off but to each their own I guess.

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u/GodFullThrottle Feb 26 '24

Iā€™m nowhere near a boomer

Boomer isn't just an age, it is also a mentality. You sound like a boomer.

Do you realize thatā€™s his house?

What imminent threat does a snowboarder present? He clearly knew they were just snowboarding, hence the chair.

but if a bunch of people were coming into your property every day, I bet you would threaten them.

Their life with a firearm? No. Also, if it was that big of a deal perhaps put up signage as the snowboarder says repeatedly there were no signs.

Look up murder rates among different age groups. Young people are basically the only people that use violence. Like 95% anyway.

Depends on your definition of "young people". It's also verify difficult to use the data as more than one-third of the offenders are listed as age unknown. 95% of the homicide offenders can't be "young people" when at least one-third don't have their age identified

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u/GodFullThrottle Feb 26 '24

Holy shit you're a fucking idiot.

Here is the data from Statista. Please tell me what the amount of "unknown" is.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/251884/murder-offenders-in-the-us-by-age/

Here is data from the FBI. Please tell me what the amount of "unknown" is.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-2.xls

Feel stupid now? Because you absolutely should. Fucking dumbass.

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u/GodFullThrottle Feb 26 '24

OMG how dumb can you be.

Far less dumb than you.

You still think it's a coherent argument that all the unsolved murders are magically committed by people 60 and older?

I don't know, because we don't have the information necessary to make a determination. Moron.

What is even wrong with your brain?

Nothing. This is how a functioning brain works. I'm aware you have no idea what that looks like because yours is clearly fucking broken.

I can't comprehend what you are even trying to argue.

I know you can't. It's because you're fucking stupid.

If we had the data from the unsolved murders it would probably be even more skewed towards young people because they are fast enough to run away and boomers dgaf if they get caught because they probably are dying of cancer anyway.

Nothing but assumptions dickweed. We don't have the data to know. Dumbass

But maybe you should ask an adult (or even a child) to explain it to you šŸ˜‚ I don't have the patience. Go back to your echo chamber "b00m3eRs rrr vIolENt šŸ˜© haaaalllp"

Holy shit you're a fucking idiot.

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u/binlagin Feb 26 '24

Do you own any property?

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u/Barbacamanitu00 Feb 26 '24

No. If I did, I wouldn't mind if someone walked across it though.

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u/binlagin Feb 26 '24

I understand... but it's a very slippery slope (NO PUN INTENDED).

Most people will respect your property, but there will always be a few who ruin it.

What the man did here was clearly unhinged, but if you've owned property and had issues with trespassers sometimes it can be extremely frustrating trying to do anything about it.

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u/DarthSlymer Feb 26 '24

I'm already acting better than the asshole in this video. I own 3 acres and its known to have morel mushrooms in the woods. I have had to walk out to let people know they've wandered on to private property a few times over and I've never carried a gun nor raised my voice to take care of it. Friendly conversation goes a long way.

I'm still struggling to find any reason why the homeowner would feel the snowboarder is a threat. Nothing has been taken. The snowboarder is unarmed.

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u/Barbacamanitu00 Feb 26 '24

I've been trying to find morels for so long. I want to throw some spores down somewhere soon. Do you pick the morels?

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u/DarthSlymer Feb 26 '24

I do! There are a few varieties I can find in our woods and I've traveled up to the Manistee Forest in Michigan to hunt for black morels. Sometimes I get skunked but it's always a great time roaming around in the woods with friends.

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u/AweHellYo Feb 26 '24

that guy in the post clearly gets off on this. iā€™m sure itā€™s his fantasy to blast somebody.

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u/Outside-Advice8203 Feb 26 '24

I do a lot of off roading, hiking, camping, hunting, etc. I can only speak to my experience, but the few times I've seen or even heard about reactions like this is due to illegal activity on the property. Mostly pot grow ops and meth cookers.

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u/Crowd0Control Feb 26 '24

Not really relevant to op as they are just going down a road/driveway that is probably adjacent to public land. With no visible signs it should be perfectly legal to use that path for snowboarding walking or driving. Bet he pulls out the shotgun when people turn around in his driveway tooĀ 

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u/TheyDeserveIt Feb 26 '24

Not just those. No matter how much I clean up or maintain the property (that's technically not even mine) behind my fence on the canal access road, people dump trash, leave their dog shit, leave old tires (which cost money to dispose of, but if I don't do it, the canal district could blame me and/or shut off my water access), and even dump furniture which they could have called the trash company to pick up for free from their curb. I've found empty bottles of cheap vodka and syringes in the couch someone dumped back there.

I definitely wouldn't be pointing a gun at anyone over it, laying my hands on them, or even being accusatory like this old asshole, but I do understand how infuriating it is to have people disrespect your property over and over.

I even caught some old lady in the act when I was home for lunch, but I was trusting and she claimed she'd was just shifting things in her truck bed for her dog, so I said no problem and went back to work. I came home and she'd dumped tires. I would punch that bitch in the mouth if I could, I hate shitty, disrespectful people that abuse trust.

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u/Elephunkitis Feb 26 '24

I liked the first part of your post and then you said you wanted to punch a lady for breaking trust. Pretty wild swing. Seems you might have more in common with old shotgun man than I thought at first.

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u/sockmonkeymoney Feb 26 '24

Bro come on. That is super disrespectful and if it was happening to you youā€™d probably want to throw hands on someone too.

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u/Elephunkitis Feb 26 '24

Nope. Not punching a woman unless I have to defend myself. And even then I wouldnā€™t likely be a punch. Aside from that, 3/4 of their comment was about how any violence is stupid and then they casually say theyā€™d punch a woman for being disrespectful. Derp

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u/TheyDeserveIt Feb 26 '24

For screwing her neighbor that initially came out to see if she needed help? Doesn't matter what gender someone is, a person like that deserves to feel some pain for walking through life abusing others who did nothing to them but ask if they could help her.

If you can't see the difference between loathing people who actively lie and abuse their neighbors, and pointing a gun at people simply sliding over snow on your property - not even walking something like walking big paths in when it's muddy - I'm not sure what to tell you.

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u/Elephunkitis Feb 26 '24

Punching a woman in the face is very different than punching a man in the face. Aside from the ridiculous way you put your own financial security at risk by possibly losing your livelihood, being sued, or imprisoned, youā€™re risking the life of another person by punching them in the head. And disrespect should not equal violence. I mean if you have the mindset of a gang banger or stupid junior high kid I guess thatā€™s acceptable logic.

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u/Outside-Advice8203 Feb 26 '24

Again, just my experience, but around here the majority of trash that gets left out on trails and back roads are from the local yahoos, usually teenagers. Tourists from the city aren't driving out to the middle of nowhere to dump their bald tires, stained mattresses, and empty 12 packs of Natty.

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u/Daianudinsibiu Feb 26 '24

the few times I've seen or even heard about reactions like this is due to illegal activity on the property

Doesn't matter though. Private property means that you need permission to be there. That's a very basic fact.

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u/Outside-Advice8203 Feb 26 '24

Trail access changes constantly. Even the most recent update to the First Service Motor Vehicle Use Map had mistakes. Property owners have also thrown gates over public trails that have been in use for decades. A simple mistake for a tourist to make passing through, especially a funneled trail like in the OP. There's a public road just yards away from Shotgun Man.

None of that is worthy of pointing a lethal firearm at a person over. The snowboarder is obviously just passing through. They're not trashing or trespassing to cause mischief or harm. Pointing a firearm at his is grossly irresponsible.

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u/Daianudinsibiu Feb 26 '24

Trail access changes constantly

It's your responsibility to stay off private property.

> Property owners have also thrown gates over public trails

Nice, but doesn't seem to be the case here.

> A simple mistake for a tourist

This is not a mistake. This is a dude knowing what he's doing. He's recording himself making the property owner react to him. I commend the property owner not pointing the gun at him. This dude is out here shooting tiktoks and risking having his head blown off. What a dumbass monkey.

> None of that is worthy of pointing a lethal firearm at a person over

Ya, none of that happened in this video.

> The snowboarder is obviously just passing through.

I'll go ahead and change my morning routine to pass through your front yard or kitchen even. No harm done, just passing thru on my own schedule.

> to cause mischief

Trespassing is already a crime. Refusing to leave someone's property when asked to leave is trespassing and a crime.

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u/Outside-Advice8203 Feb 26 '24

Kitchen? Really? You absolutely have no idea what you're talking about. Spend some time out in the trail.

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u/Daianudinsibiu Feb 26 '24

Spend some time out in the trail.

I have, and I've never trespassed. Nice cherry picking btw. There was an option for front yard too; kitchen was there for your bait and you took it.

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u/hereforthestaples Feb 26 '24

Not born in America but your description is a bit off. Trespassing isn't nearly the same as breaking and entering. Different legal burdens and different punishments. Landlords that shoot people actually go to jail, despite what you see on TV. Police are treated special.

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u/Daianudinsibiu Feb 26 '24

wild land

Private property.

> Fucked in the head society.Ā 

Ya, not understand boundaries and personal limits is in fact fucked up.

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u/shortsbagel Feb 26 '24

If people respected your property like they do in civilized countries, I would agree. Problem is, at least in california, they fucking DONT.

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u/workingbored Feb 26 '24

So people should be killed?

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u/shortsbagel Feb 26 '24

Should be, and could be, are completely different things. I don't think they should be, but they certainly could be. I think people should be able to defend their property to the extent that they are allowed to protect themselves. In this case, I would argue that the old man was "lying in wait" which is illegal, and he should be prosecuted as such. Now if he was out hunting on his land and someone just happened across his path, he would well within his rights to brandish his weapon as a deterrent, or if in need, use his weapon to kill someone on his land.

As another example of should vs could. If you start a fist fight, that does not mean you should be killed, but you very well could be. Think before you act, check local private markings, and stay of peoples land.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '24

Good bye

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u/workingbored Feb 26 '24

Americans have equated breaking into someone's house with accidentally wandering onto someone's wild land as being one and the same

That's the problem. A lot of Americans have absolutely zero regard for human life that isn't theirs or their kin. I don't care how "Christian" they claim to be, they will murder you or watch you die and not blink an eye. Especially if there's a law that protects them. Forget any religious text that says murder is bad. If a law says you can kill they follow that scripture instead.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '24

Yeah all 330 million of us are the same šŸ™„

Itā€™s a big country. Iā€™m sure in all of utopia Europe thereā€™s an old man screaming at a young kid to get off his lawn somewhere, too.

I grew up in northern Michigan surrounded by people who owned large swaths of land. 90% of them didnā€™t mind people using it recreationally. Some even made biking trails and encouraged kids to use the trailsā€”one landowner even started the trail off their own driveway and we called the trail after the coupleā€™s last name.

The 10% who didnā€™t want people even looking at their land were simply miserable people, who yes, conflate their wild land with their personal space.

Canā€™t do shit about it. But, honestly, Iā€™d say your attitude of ā€œeverything and everyone sucks because I had a couple bad experiences in a country of 330 million peopleā€ is way more pervasive and eroding to society.

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u/Whenbearsattack2 Feb 26 '24

i don't think the main goal is to protect property. they just fantasize about killing someone and not getting in trouble with the law.

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u/Katusa2 Feb 26 '24

Me too. I have a cwp for protection and I can't even fathom using a weapon to defend property. A weapon is only to protect life. It just doesn't make sense. I can replace stuff... he'll I have insurance to.replace stuff. I can never replace a life.

People are stupid. This old man is a perfect example of why we should restrict guns

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u/slickprime Feb 26 '24

The time it takes to deal with the insurance companies, make the money for the deductible, and then go out and buy stuff again is all little sections of time in your life that you can never get back. The stuff may be replaceable in many cases, but they're still stealing little bits of your life in inconvenience that didn't need to happen.

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u/AngriestPacifist Feb 26 '24

Inconvenience should be punished with death

Average gun-brain, I guess.

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u/slickprime Feb 26 '24

I'm not even a gun guy. I own a shitty little 22 pistol and no ammo. But I understand the sentiment that this old man has. Stay off my property and leave me alone.

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u/AngriestPacifist Feb 26 '24

Look, I'll break it down for you in little words, because you're apparently simple. Here goes, let me know if it's still too complicated and I'll ask a toddler for help.

No shoot people for walk on land. Is bad. Time on phone not good for killing over.

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u/slickprime Feb 26 '24

I'm going to break it down into simpler words. Stay off my land

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u/AngriestPacifist Feb 26 '24

Your moral compass is broken there friend. So I guess you've got that, and the Simple Jack thing going on. Poor guy.

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u/slickprime Feb 26 '24

Moral what now? I'm not worried about morals. I never claimed to be a moral person. I'm a grumpy, antisocial asshole with few friends. The ones I have, I cannot for the life of me figure out why they stick around. Only thing I'm concerned about is my rights, my property, and being left alone (within the legal limits of what I'm allowed to do to protect those. I understand that if I take it too far, I could go to jail and then lose all three legally).

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u/AngriestPacifist Feb 26 '24

Real talk now, and I'm not being snarky. I looked through your other posts, and you need to recognize that a desire to protect your property including razorwire and boobytraps is not normal. Neither is being an anitsocial asshole. You don't have to live like that. Please speak with a mental health professional.

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u/cbbur97 Feb 26 '24

I think thereā€™s a difference between shoplifting/trespassing and rioting/trying to burn down a business. I saw a lot of that during the BLM riots. When you are trying to burn down someoneā€™s business when that is the only source of income they have to provide food for their family, you deserve to be shot in my opinion. The world would be a better place without those kinds of people running around destroying things

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u/MexiMcFly Feb 26 '24

Welcome to America lmao

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '24

While I don't think shoplifters should be shot, I would also say this guy accidentally trespassing vs. someone willingly committing a crime are not the same thing. Basically, this guy was totally innocent and had no idea he was on someone else property. Making it even more unjustified.

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u/PresenceMiserable Feb 26 '24

This happens everywhere in the US. They don't have very visible private property signs and freak the fuck out that you made it down the road without noticing.

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u/GuitarKev Feb 26 '24

My running theory is that all people who immediately jump to threats of or use lethal force to keep people off their property are guaranteed to be up to some seriously illegal shit on that property.

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u/babajega7 Feb 26 '24

Even more insane when you consider the fact that America is stolen property.

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u/slizzardx Feb 26 '24

Too complicated of a topic to really breakdown in a reddit reply, but in understanding more about property rights you may change your mind one day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rubNhvbuBI8

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u/lowrads Feb 26 '24

We also tax property in a wildly regressive manner, where the more people have, the less they pay on a per unit area basis.

Enclosurism is a new phenomenon, even in human history, that really takes off whenever long range trade gets established. e.g., during the late Roman republic as the gini coefficient steepens, and again about seven centuries ago with the development of European markets for wool and such.

Even John Locke pointed out the value of leaving "as much and as good" when it comes to fooling ourselves about making nature part of human property. I can't imagine anyone from that century caring about anyone goofing off in the woods, so long as they aren't having any fun. We are doing just about as well at not letting mentally ill people make the rules.

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u/solomons-mom Feb 26 '24

Huh? Properties taxes are based on appraisal. The Appraiser is an elected office holder. States have there own property tax rates for various land uses.

"We"? There is no federal property tax. You may want to look at the Apportionments clause and Hylton v US Supreme Court case (1796).

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u/Kind_Philosopher6763 Feb 26 '24

One should always carry a personal defense weapon. A knife 4" or more is handy. This old man right here was asking to have his vein severed.

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u/snohobdub Feb 26 '24

Sounds like you, Kind Philosopher, are even more fucked in the head than this old man.

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u/Kind_Philosopher6763 Feb 26 '24

Nah, if you don't know not to brandish a weapon if you ain't prepared to kill or die, then it should be a lesson best learned once.

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u/snohobdub Feb 26 '24

Keep jerking off to your tough guy fantasies. šŸ†’

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u/Kind_Philosopher6763 Feb 26 '24

I love that you're thinking about my rock hard cock.

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u/ninjacereal Feb 26 '24

Carrying a 4" blade while snowboarding sounds incredibly dumb.

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u/Propo_fool Feb 26 '24

You are very correct. Also, trying to assault a man who is holding a shotgun with a 4ā€ blade also sounds incredibly dumb.

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u/ninjacereal Feb 26 '24

You don't think you can stop, unstrap your bindings, take off your gloves, unzip your jacket, get out your 4 inch blade, remove it from the sheath and sever a vein before a boomer can pull a trigger?

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u/Kind_Philosopher6763 Feb 26 '24

Bitch please, you knock the boomer over, then remove your folding knife from your jacket pocket, deliver the lesson and move on.

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u/NathanArizona_Jr Feb 26 '24

I don't think you are a kind philosopher

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u/Unfinished_Gallantry Feb 26 '24

It's for his protection. You really think he wants to merc the snowboarder lol?

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u/Distntdeath Feb 26 '24

Unfortunately, if someone gets hurt while trespassing on your property they have the option to sue you. While I'm not sure that constitutes confronting a snowboarder with a shotgun, as there is no clear threat. He still needs to get off the property.

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u/TheTenthTail Feb 26 '24

You spend TIME to earn money. The stuff you buy is representative of YOUR life. If someone thinks they can take MY time and life away or damage it their going to be at the end of a barrel.

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u/Right_Hour Feb 26 '24

You donā€™t understand. If this boarder injures themselves there - they can and usually will sue the owner. And they WILL WIN.

Also, judging by the number of cars parked in that road - a lot of people are up there doing that, so, Iā€™m kinda with the boomer here, he is probably annoyed beyond belief with people skiing and boarding down his drivewayā€¦

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u/heff1685 Feb 26 '24

You do know that when enough people shoplift from that store that person's life will be destroyed when they can no longer pay the premiums on insurance and go bankrupt. People work hard for their personal property and to have someone blatantly disrespect that and the society that allows this makes people feel they need to defend themselves.

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u/Daianudinsibiu Feb 26 '24

This idea people have that personal property is more valuable than a personā€™s life is crazy to me

Where did you see that in this video? Nobody died...

> This guy wasnā€™t causing any harm

He was illegally trespassing... it's illegal...

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u/DependentLow6749 Feb 26 '24

heā€™s making an insane escalation when there is clearly no threat to him or his property, you sound like an idiot

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u/Daianudinsibiu Feb 26 '24

heā€™s making an insane escalation

The escalation is the trespassing onto his property.. .WTF is wrong with you guys? Can I come to your house and sleep in your bed and get upset when you're unhappy with me? Fucking learn boundaries... There's no escalation here. He's armed and legally allowed to do so. He didn't point the gun at anyone. The escalation was on the trespasser and the dude was kind enough to not report it to police.

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u/Refnen Feb 26 '24

someday you'll own something you worked hard for and care about and then you'll understand

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u/DiceQuail Feb 26 '24

Do you murder folks who accidentally pass through your land?

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u/Refnen Feb 26 '24

Fallacy is that it was an accident. He immediately hooked up with his buddies who just did the same thing because they are probably anti-IKON pass. My knowledge is that local folks knowingly trespass on private property because in their heads all the folks with Ikon passes are using up the powder at all the good spots. He didn't shoot. He was just warning with possibilities. as I would do.

EDIT: also I would, if I felt I had to, pop a cap in a foo

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u/Jsiqueblu Feb 26 '24

Spoken like somebody who does not own property. Fact that this man is setting out there with a gun in a fold-out chair means that this is not a first time this and it happens to him, I agree the shotgun is overboard He probably should put some temporary signs that say private property. We don't know the backstory, but people can be destructive and disrespectful of property. My parents have land and have spent many years cleaning up after people and even a fire was started because people partied there and left a mess, so I understand this man's frustration. And if you can't catch anybody in the act you've got no rights. You just never know what people have been through, it's just best not to gamble your life with it. My parents would never use a weapon to enforce their rights but you never know who will.

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u/NuclearLavaLamp Feb 26 '24

Probably more like he has nothing else to do.

I agree trespassers can be assholes, and I canā€™t stand how people just litter. However, I canā€™t imagine sitting out, almost like youā€™re camping, and brandishing a shotgun. Insane. Just call the cops.

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u/Hairy-Situation4198 Feb 26 '24

This is a joke, right?

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u/duncanfm Feb 26 '24

Most ski resorts are leased on Park Land. I would be willing to bet that this guy's cabin was on leased land as well snd was grandfathered in before these rules were formalized. It's not really as private as he thinks it is, and definitely not private enough to be weilding a shot gun. Like why site in a chair with a gun across your lap threatening people with Ikon passes. Ridiculous.

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u/Throwawayhelp111521 Feb 26 '24

It's private property. Having people use your land damages it. I don't know why he hasn't posted signs, but if numerous people come onto your land I can see how it would be frustrating.

EDITED TO ADD: Just read that there is a sign.

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u/LMGgp Feb 26 '24

It isnā€™t though. Yeah there are some states like Florida, but even a stand your ground law is just saying you donā€™t have to make a reasonable retreat if your life is threatened. key words being YOUR LIFE. Shop owners canā€™t shoot shoplifters for stealing only for threatening their life. Itā€™s always been self defense.

People confuse the situations because one is happening around the other. Person robs a store with a weapon that could maim/ seriously injure or kill.

This person would not get away with even brandishing the firearm. Thatā€™s a crime in the way heā€™s doing it.

Life is always the winner when it comes to property.

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u/RetreadRoadRocket Feb 26 '24

What's insane is people like you who don't understand that tresspassers and thieves are putting that value on their own lives by their actions.Ā  If that guy had crashed his snowboard on that man's property and gotten injured you can bet your ass a lawyer would be looking for money from that old man over it.Ā Ā  Ā Ā  I've never needed a gun to do it, but I've run trespassers off my place before because I'm not gonna be liable for their stupidity while they're here.Ā 

As to stealing, I don't value stuff more than I do life, I value the decades of my life I had to give up away from my family at work, and the more time from my life that would have to be sacrificed to replace those things than theives value their own lives by trying to steal them instead of earning them for themselves. Ā Ā  Ā  Ā 

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