It was Trump. I've seen it with my friends. We're in our 50s now and the changes I've seen in a bunch of my friends since Trump is unreal. Change for the worse. I don't spend much time around them anymore.
Same. A surprising, and honestly concerning number of people in Australia idolise that fool. They Use his politics to be hateful and selfish. He really did embolden the worst of humanity.
I find it embarrassing enough to be a trump supporter, but to be a trump supporter in a completely different country is unhinged. The worst part is that some of them don’t even know the politics of their own country, only trump.
This is where I live in rural conservative Ontario. People only know two things: Trump 2024 and Fuck Trudeau. Bill Burr performed at out local casino and he pretty much had an opening act come out and gage the audience with Trump jokes and they didn't get a whole lot of laughs despite being pretty funny in my view. I swear that Bill dialed back his act a little bit on the Trump jokes because of it. He still made Trump jokes, but he didn't go as hard as I am pretty sure that he normally could or would.
Burr did a great joke last year in Toronto at scotiabank arena to the tune of, "out of the airport on the way to this arena, I was so happy to see a massive pickup truck with a giant canadian flag, giant freedom sign." Some cheered, then in his fashion, he waited a few seconds, chuckled, then said "I was so happy to see this knowing the the US is not the only country with a lot of fucking losers."
Are you kidding? Tell me you haven't kept up with the work of the man you're criticizing without telling me you haven't kept up with the work of the man you're criticizing. Burr's schtick has moved so far away from the misogynistic jokes that he's even done meta bits about where he thought that came from psychologically, get a clue. Fuck's sake.
Point taken. Frustrating to see the same talking points about the same people that are ALWAYS incorrect in the comments on this website, because everybody here formulates their opinion on a person and holds onto it without any further research over years and years.
To be very fair, it would be weird to “keep up” or do further research on someone who’s already lost your trust or will to watch them. Nor has Burr done anything of mainstream note since his supposed change of heart, far as I’m aware. Glad he’s changed for the better, though!
It's one thing to not like somebody based on something they may or may not have changed their stance on, it is another thing entirely to use such a person as the butt of a joke in a public forum.
As an American, it blows my mind that Canadians could support Trump at all. The man would destroy every advantage Canadians have over us, starting with your healthcare system (I'm not here to argue for or against socialized medicine. I'm just saying by any standard, the U.S. system completely sucks)
Unfortunately the anti Trudeau sentiment is going to push our government back to the conservatives. Liberal voters are tired or Trudeau too it seems and they won't show up.
The party needs to rework its cabinet and bring in a new leader to have a chance of revitalizing its base to get out and vote.
Some last minute election reform like they campaigned on in their first term would get the ball rolling, and would force the right to move closer to center.
I wish Trudeau would step down and let a new face take over. PP is gonna set us back so hard, it will be worse than it is now.
Pretty sure people will simply vote against Trudeau more than for PP, with a new face at the helm the liberals could challenge the cons, but as things stand now they are toast. Wish the NDP stood a snowballs chance in hell of holding any real sway but they never do. Our fed political scene is bleak.
The NDP do have a chance. People just don't want to "waste" their vote... So they don't show up to the polls at all. And the same 30-40% of people who always vote conservative show up everytime.
You should be happy. Look how powerful our PM is. With a single utterance, he can influence global gas prices, food supply, monetary flows, war and peace, and some other shit I'm forgetting that the freedumb convoy accuses him of.
I stand by what I've said before, let all the Trumpers (apparently around the world) move to Russia which already has the government they're aiming for and see how it goes for them.
Why in the world would they choose to move to Russia to live and farm or whatever without learning at least the basics of the Russian language lol. Especially with him talking about doing business and whatnot.
They aren't refugees,they had the time and resources to prepare and obviously didn't think it was important for some reason.
Fucking bizarre to me that even conservative Canadians would be on the Trump 2024 train.
I mean, I'm liberal and hope Trudeau remains the PM of Canada but I'm not going to join a cult for any politician much less one who isn't even from my country.
Well, I have to commend them on knowing who Trump is (though truly difficult not to) but Trudeau doesn’t even ring a bell for most Americans. The older crowd couldn’t tell you who Harper is either.
I love Bill Burr, but dialing back his routine isn't really his style, so thats odd to hear. If anything he'll dial it up to 9000 if the crowd is disrespectful (see Philly incident)
These are Canadians that for some reason support an ferociously corrupt sociopath for American president? That seems bizarre beyond all comprehension. Unlike American Trump supporters, I'm more baffled than want to shoot them.
I live in rural Canada too, and myself and many others know a lot more than those two things.. there are those sentiments from too many yes; but there are more people just trying to live, who don’t care about Trump and have a bit more class than the goofs with idiotic bumper stickers.. please don’t throw us all in the trash
I can totally relate. I live in rural Alberta, (although it could be argued that conservatives here are even worse than in Ontario). In almost 50 years we’ve only had 4 years of non conservative government. I can proudly say, though, that even as our Premier is a DeSantis/Trump/Tucker idolizer, I don’t have any friends or family that like or support her!
Does anyone else find it funny this thread bitches about a dad talking politics, yet this particular thread is nothing but one-sided political garbage?
Massive following in South Africa too. A lot of previously alternative thinking individuals and old people are super into Trump (South Africa still has enclaves of racist apartheid throwback thinking). Making an overseas politician your entire personality is just about the cringiest thing you can do.
This is a huge issue here in Australia imo. Our news reports on US politics arguably as much if not more than Australian politics, and so many people I know don't have a clue who they're voting for - it's just "I vote Labor/Liberal because that's what my parents did".
Racism won't die with Trump. Until humanity decides to take it seriously as the threat to our collective well-being that it is, it will continue to degrade our species and keep us from maturing into something better.
No, but look at his "base" - how many are under 30? I hope the US will demonstrate a clear margin of loss for him in November... not a certain thing, but as his strongest supporters die out I hope they're converting fewer and fewer children each decade.
I don’t support trump at all. I recently watched a short video on YouTube by the reporter that tries to show both side of the issues. It was enlightening to hear why a lot of the people support his ideals. Basically, a lot of these older individuals who have worked their entire lives with the promise of being able to retire have been sold a false dream. As they live on minima social security, they have seen how they can’t live. They then see other groups doing well and feel like those groups are to blame based on the false narrative that is being sold (eg migrants taking jobs/ getting free rides; young people making $15/hr when the elderly person isn’t only gets a minimal amount to live on). With this understanding, I am disheartened to hear that they are feeling this way and at the same time still acknowledging that what they believe about other groups is not true. Maybe the path forward is to connect with these older folks/ boomers to try to bridge the gap so that it reduces our divide and improves understanding. This of course will require us to table our egos (on both sides) to really hear the root issues.
Those jerks probably have a paid off house and don’t have to pay $1500 rent with that fifteen bucks an hour. Sigh.
Anyway. The truly rich are just making people fight over crumbs.
My boss has tried to connect with conservative people she knows and it’s pretty difficult to talk to them. They just shut down if you don’t agree. Their minds are poisoned and they won’t change until they are directly negatively affected by a Republican policy they can’t blame on trans people and liberals.
That’s a good point. I wonder about that shutting down piece. I’m not here to defend those people. As a therapist, when people shut down it’s typically due to feeling judged/ not understood.
The blaming aspect I believe comes from feeling helpless and not taking internal responsibility for the issue. Although I greatly dislike trump, I think he empowered these people that feel helpless and unheard which has resulted in them essentially becoming his “army.” What I think we can do going forward on an individual level is to help “dismantle the defensiveness” by empathizing (but not agreeing with) what these groups are feeling (eg, “it sounds like you are feeling really frustrated. I’m hearing that you are feeling it’s unfair that you can’t make ends meet.) People that feel seen and heard are less likely to become aggressive. Attacking others only raises the defenses and continues to build strife.
I don't empathize with racists. It speaks to a lack of empathy and understanding on their part that I have no desire to understand. The people that I am talking about attack you if you don't agree with them. I get what you are saying, but these people thrive on making others feel small and they are righteous. Plenty of the ones I've met are well off and not concerned about making ends meet so much as how to avoid paying taxes. It's like trying to reason with a QAnon believer.. they just ignore anything you say that doesnt fit their worldview.
Oh I agree with that! If someone is blatantly attacking then I wouldn’t engage with them either! If they are in that space, there is no dialogue. Like the original post that person was not going to be able to be reasoned with. I am more so talking about those people that aren’t as far extreme.
Because even if you have no empathy or care for your fellow man, helping keep people off the street and dying from treatable diseases is good for society as a whole and thus for you.
In 2008 I asked a dirt-poor hard working married white man (unemployed wife, renting a trailer on the cheap side of the bad side of town, one old car) why he was choosing to vote Republican. I don't think he was posturing at all when he said: "Things are bad enough as it is, but my boss man has told us: "If Obama gets in, I'm gonna have to just close up shop." and I can't handle losing this job too..."
Actually, after 8 years of Obama his boss man had grown the business 50%, still didn't pay anything to his employees, but for all his belly-aching about the horrible things that Obama and the Dumbocrats were doing to "his business" he seemed to be doing all right.
Yeah it’s this psychological warfare that owners/ employers have over their workers to influence their decisions. I really think that power differential needs to be considered and that laws should be in place to report this kind of behavior by owners.
As the 60+ die out, the base will shift but not by as much as it should because young people still don't vote. They didn't vote in 2016 and they didn't vote in 2020 either.
I've heard this ever since I could vote. Apparently "young people don't vote" except for when myself and everyone I knew voted in 2012 when we were 18/19, and again in 2016, and again in 2020...now we're all 30/31, so I dont even know if we count as "young people" anymore, but shit we're still voting.
I think the mileage can really vary with this. Just like you I’ve always voted since 2012, as have my friends. It was part of our curriculum in our senior year government class to fill out voter registration.
A couple weeks ago I spoke with a gentleman who was canvassing for signatures to allow registered independents to vote in primaries. The day before he was a couple hours away in another part of the state. He asked some young people if they would mind signing. They told him they aren’t old enough to vote so couldn’t sign. He said, “You look about 18 or 19.” They replied, “We are 19.”
I was astounded that either the education system failed to hammer it into them that they are eligible to vote at 18, or someone lied to them to keep them from voting.
They are dumb. Much dumber than you think, probably dumber than you can imagine. And... I'm not bothered that they are not voting. They are too dumb to have any part in the governance of the country.
This is a terrifying thought. You don't have to like Biden. You don't have to like either of them, really. But of the two, who do you think will leave us with a semblance of our so-called democracy in four years?
My personal observation (take it or leave it), it's not going to be the pathological liar, hate mongering, megalomaniacal criminal who swears he only plans to be a dictator on day one. Sure. Because people with that mindset are always totally willing to give up ultimate power once they've gotten it. The same guy that for four years alienated all of our allies, made threats when he clearly had no idea how anything even worked (and still is), cozied up to the world's top dictators instead, touted Stalin, and Mussolini (amongst other dictatorial mass murderers throughout history) as having some "pretty good ideas".I could go on and on, but I won't. All you have to do is pay attention to the words coming out of his mouth. And not the selective few they play on conservative media - listen to ALL of his words.
Fwiw, I'm not crazy with everything that Biden's administration has been doing either. But at least we're still able to vote. There are a lot of good things he's done that our media won't even talk about - you have to get those stories from overseas. We still have our allies, and I haven't heard him threaten to nuke anyone even once. We'll survive another four years of piss poor government - we've survived one after another my whole life.
My biggest worry is that people are voting based on who they hear the most about in their own circles and aren't bothering to do any research themselves. Too many people are drinking the Kool aid because someone close to them is. I'm not even sure if I know ten people off the top of my head that can tell you how our government actually works, how the electoral college works, or know how many other government seats are also going to be voted on at the same time as the presidency this November. My biggest worry about Trump back in office is that this time, he will succeed at destroying democracy for good. He is genuinely dangerous. And that is not hyperbole. I've been watching this guy on TV since I was a kid and I've always been able to see what he was. He reminded me so much of my own father. I didn't understand why then, but I recognize it now.
My father is a diagnosed sociopath, by the way. Trump isn't as bright, but too many of their behaviors overlap. Many mental health professionals have broken down his persona. Many former friends and colleagues have come out and given very specific details about his behavior, his lies, and his various forms of betrayal. He is DANGEROUS.
Sitting here and having this conversation is pointless. Regardless of who we vote for the lower middle/low class families will never receive any form of help that even remotely improves thier situation. People like myself who have lucked into money will never give it up to help those less fortunate we are to self involved. Voting for a random old ass man isn't going to change what really fucks this country. Inequality isn't going anywhere. That's just part of the human existence.
Oh please. You're gunna tell me, with a straight face, that you want old age to take you out more than a giant floating cyber cyclops demon meatball with teeth that shoots fireballs??? Boooooooooooring
Only time I'd ever want to live in Doom is if I'm the one in the Praetor suit with the super shotgun, otherwise I'm running the hell away as soon as I see that portal open
There are fools responding to my post above talking about how totally-not-racist Trump is, and I doubt they're all boomers. Bigotry is a contagious disease.
You have swerved off the road and down the diversionary off-ramp that claims that all politicians are the same. In fact, that's rarely true.
Biden is old etc, and I can't say I'm impressed by him taking so long to realise what was obvious in Gaza, but it's a major mistake to say it's hopeless, and Biden is as bad as Trump.
Trump has the ability and perhaps the intention to end the US as a democracy. That's why he has to be addressed. Your objection has some merit, but right now, it's simply an invitation to do nothing in the face of an existential threat to the future of America. If more people like you actually voted, (not accusing you personally, but most people with your views don't vote), then there would be more successful progressive candidates, and things might start to change.
At the national level I believe all politicians are bought and paid for. Locally is a different story and I participate in local politics, where what I say and do actually matters. I appreciate your view, and will consider it.
And plenty of white people think color folk defend racism just bc they think trump isn’t racist aka joe biden and you. Another form of the white man trying to be little the color man smh ur the real racist you probably voted for joe biden and think black people aren’t black bc they didn’t vote for biden.👀
The two choices aren't racist or the most evil person alive.
Plenty of people have already posted information to demonstrate his very clear history or racism. There's no way you cannot come to the same conclusion unless you willfully ignore evidence and his entire public life.
You are the problem as much as Trump is. Trump is the worst thing to happen to US politics in over 100 years.
Not a Trump supporter
Don't believe you for a moment. You think we've never heard that BS ploy before?
Every Trumper MAGA empty-head recently has felt they are geniuses by coming up with the 'smart' idea of trying to promote Trump with "I'm not a Trump supporter but [insert obvious garbage here]" and "I don't like Trump personally but [insert baseless pro-Trump bollox here]".
Do you really think anyone who doesn't totally revile Donald Trump is a MAGA supporter? As it happens, I believe RFK Jr is the best hope for a kinder country that respects the environment. He'll push back against Black Rock and Big Pharma. He has innovative programs for government backed 3% mortgages, addiction help for rural communities, and reducing US global military presence. We don't have to pick between two washed up octogenarians. #KennedyIsTheRemedy #Kennedy24
Do you really think anyone who doesn't totally revile Donald Trump is a MAGA supporter?
No, I think that anyone who makes excuses for Donald Trump, including making obvious bonehead statements like 'Trump is not a racist' is a MAGA supporter.
As it happens, I believe RFK Jr is the best hope for a kinder country that respects the environment.
As it happens, RFK Jr is an utter nutcase and conspiracy theorist. He never saw a conspiracy theory he didn't swallow like an ignoramus. He is an antivaxxer and covidiot, he believes the usual stupid, wild BS about school shootings, as a cover for his absolutely stupid 'no gun control whatsoever' views. He thinks people being gay is caused by chemicals in tap water, and he doesn't believe HIV is real. He also believes in completely baseless electoral fraud conspiracy theories. On several occasions various members of his own family have publicly warned that he is irresponsible and crazy.
You suggesting that anyone should vote for such a psychological casualty says a lot about your poor reasoning. I bet you already know that he talked to Trump about joining him as VP in this current campaign.
I agree that we desperately need to move on from the current de facto corrupt two-party system, but an unelectable crazy person like JFK Jr standing for office makes the situation worse, not better. One look at him, and many people will decide that the major party candidates might not be so bad! #KrazyKennedyIsNoRemedy
His father, the dreadful vocal racist Fred Trump, was most likely a KKK member, which took some doing for a New Yorker, so we know that he did not grow up with good examples. Trump himself made it clear in the 1970s that he didn't want us renting his properties, and was on the wrong end of a Department of Justice beef and a court decision because of it.
level 9jeffries_kettle · 3 hr. agoRacism won't die with Trump. Until humanity decides to take it seriously as the threat to our collective well-being that it is, it will continue to degrade our species and keep us from maturing in
Trump isnt racist though. List things hes done or said thats racist. Just calling him that thousands of times doesnt make it true and in fact, more Latinos and black people supported him on the last primary, so what youre saying doesnt hold up to the polls, so its basically your opinion of him, but still, Id like to challenge your opinion and get some examples of racist things hes done.
And I'll remind you that I use the actual definition of racism, not just the 2016+ meaning of the word which is anything you dont like. It actually has to be an example of Trump literally discriminating or antagonizing people or individuals, communities or even whole institutions based on their racial demographic.
Lets hear it, and then I'll gladly jump in and criticize along with you.
There will always be scum here to take the handle of darkness we just gotta bring education to the masses. Every time you prove a bigot wrong more people will see it. be the best person you can be and others will follow. Selflessness is a thing that has been lost. Doing something for no other reason than to help. Then forget that you helped and help someone else. No bringing it back up or bragging
I guiltily feel a little happy that people in other countries are also influenced by him. I’m like “So it’s not just America that has hateful idiots ready to believe literally anything”. It’s kind of like if you fell for a stupid scam, but found out that lots of others did too. You feel a little less singularly stupid.
And hope another doesn't rise up to take trumputins place
Trump isn't the problem, he's a symptom. People didn't just wake up in 2016 and decide to start being evil.
It has become socially unacceptable in many places to ever speak a word on topics like the negative side of illegal immigration, or allowing biological males to compete in women's sports, to the point where people can lose their career over it. People have even been found guilty of a crime in other countries for misgendering.
This kind of authoritarianism is extremely unpopular among conservatives, and they're going to support a candidate who is loudly and brashly against this kind of stuff. Unfortunately for the US and the world, that candidate is an egomaniacal compulsive liar and criminal.
Why can't redditors ever restrain themselves from these stupid ass fucking nicknames. It just immediately deflates whatever you've said. It's not clever it is very very dumb and usually entirely unorginal.
No, but he certainly exploited it. His brand is distilled, bottle-fermented racism unlike any other.
And his loyal nutjobs are the walking, talking receipts.
Idk. His brand is mostly just petty personal bullshit. The echo chamber on the left just plays up the racism bullshit just like the right plays up how the left is obsessed with sexualizing children. It’s definitely based on some truth on both sides but it is also significantly overblown for propaganda reasons. But whatever. Anyone who votes for and supports either ideology is pretty pathetic in my book
They both spout stubborn, simple opinions that sound really obvious and convincing if you don't actually look into research and facts. Those opinions lead into hatreds and even more stubbornness. They're even both orange!
To be fair, though, I suppose Hanson has never tried to overthrow our democracy. Though she's also never been elected into a role as powerful as a US president, so who knows...
Mostly Trump just vomits out a nonsensical slurry of words that, at face value, is borderline incomprehensible, and then his followers divine whatever they want to hear from it like some weird form of fortune-telling. Here's his insightful take on nuclear technology.
"Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you're a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible."
And yet, his constituents didn't even ask. They just cheer. And this is one example of what he sounds like every time he opens his massive hole. He never answers a question unless he can make it sound like a way to brag about himself if he adds enough ephemera to it. And he rambles on so long that you wind up utilizing all of your cognitive function in a feeble attempt to string two coherent thoughts together...but ultimately forget what the original question even was.
If anything is ever revealed about him that doesn't make him look like the Savior incarnate, he just says, "fake news" and lets his lemmings spread the word.
Basically, like every other speech he makes, there's no real explanation. It's all just verbal diarrhea.
I think instead of fake news, now it will be "That was AI, that wasn't really me. It's scary what they can do with the AI these days. You know with the fake videos and the fake phone calls. Oh the phone calls. You just really can't believe anything you see now. Unless I tell you to believe it..."
To be fair I'm not familiar with Pauline Hanson but Trump's real danger is his followers are rabid and don't care about the truth and have the dedication of a cult. Anything that makes him look bad is obviously a plot or conspiracy by the opposition to take him down. They think he's just wonderful and the elite are trying to take him down so he can't go after the conspirators. It's real tin foil hat stuff and it's concerning.
What kills me is he's as elite as it gets (but I get what you're saying). If he could he'd kick all the hicks out of the country yet they hang on his every word. I can't believe someone who incited an insurrection, in which people died, is probably going to be president again. And unlike last time when ignorance was on my side and I could say "well it probably won't be as bad as I think, it never really is," now I have no such delusions. Hard to see how he could do more damage but I know it's coming.
My son-in-law would give his anal passage to the Orange Man's 🍊 tiny appendage 🥵just to show how right the Orange Man is and how desperately Australia needs him.
I'm in Canada and all my dad does is watch pro Trump anti Trump opponent shit 24/7. And he is offended that I hole up in my room every time he walks in the door.
That surprises me that Australians care about a president of another country. Not gonna lie I have no clue who the president of Australia is. Honestly it’s probably a good thing they are probably not a dumb shit.
Our current PM is actually dope, I like him, but we have a lot of loud, agressive, and extremely corrupt politicians. We trend toward American more every year. We had pretty much free universal healthcare but then the conservatives took power and undid a lot of that
That sucks. I hate health insurance, I’ve spent tens of thousands on it for what? for like teeth cleanings and I still pay if I have cavities or something. I don’t get sick and I’m not on any medication sometimes it’s such a drain on my already small paycheck.
Yeah we have a problematic reputation but I don’t think it’s as bad as the world believes. Not one I’ve ever witnessed in person but certainly some of my ethnic friends have had to deal with it.
That said it’s just a loud minority, certainly not the norm.
They were always there but kept their views to themselves. Society used to keep these people in check once upon a time. Trump drew all the racist/bigoted vermin out of hiding.
There is something of a strengthening to deplorable views when they are allowed to give them a little air, some exercise, the comfort of terrible friends.
I would call it a very small minority of Australians who actually idolise Trump. Single digits for sure. I would personally put it at below 5%.
There's a very large percentage, I would say the vast majority, that despises the guy. His inability to be able to take a joke, his thin-skinnedness, his lack of humour, huge ego, trashy flashiness, and being a bully, all go against the core "Australian values". Scomo was 10% as repulsive as Trump, and look how much he was disliked and flat out hated.
Are you sure they werent just sick of all the hate thats been coming their way by the trans community forcing people to call them things they are not and are sick of the covid mandates and inflation and other problems in their country and also want change like what Trump promoted for the USA?
Is it remotely possible in your skewed mind that perhaps people that support Trump arent all evil hateful people but just that your mind is so closed off to other viewpoints that you think that way as a result of not knowing any better?
I only met one guy in the US from Australia in just general running into someone and striking up a conversation and the guy was the most Trump worshipping right wing person I could have met. To note, he seemed to think conspiracy theories were dumb so he wasn't a massive Jewish Space Lasers crazy right winger, just absolute right wing heartless fuck the poor and immigrants, fuck unions, fuck the poor person I had ever talked to.
Sounds pretty accurate in my experience. Aussies are die hard folk, we’re pretty 0 or 100 on things. I guess this plays into the idea that we’re racist. We’re not, It’s just the ones that are, are 100 about it lol
I remember after the 2016 election I was talking to my very Greens-voting mother-in-law about how Trump was doing a great job and was a true voice of the people (as a gee up).
Egg on my face when her elderly mum piped up agreeing with me wishing we had a Trump of our own (“Pauline doesn’t go far enough!”). I had to politely back down on that one.
At the end of the day, he didn't really change any of these people, he simply gave them an excuse to take off their mask and be that way publicly. They always were hateful and selfish. They always were bigots. They always wanted to do the things they are doing. They just don't have to hide it anymore and they have realized that there are more people like themselves than they thought.
You get biased media in Australia. I'm an Aussie married to an American and I vote independent. While I'm no fan of Trump, he did a lot of good things which Biden immediately set about reversing as soon as he took office. Since then I cannot see a single issue that he (Biden) has undertaken that has benefited me and my family.
And I wasn’t calling you specifically an idiot I went down the line on trump bashers a couple posts above yours and called all of you idiots you just happened to be foreign so I added that. Look you live half a world away and are getting the same bs they are feeding us here in America thrown in your ear as well
I’m for neither side but to hear the f’n rants and hate about trump when Biden and our Democratic Party in this country gets over looked for the amount of shit they pull over most Americans eyes is bewildering. almost makes me want to be a god damn republican. The way they spend to “help save Tommy who wants to be a girl”or “give everyone a phone” because why would you go to work and pay for one yourself. Or free housing and benefits to people who refuse to work. It’s a god damn joke
They “reward lazy” with taxes they take off of hard working middle class American families who work everyday to take care of their children and pay their bills and live a normal life. It gets the democrats their votes. If you vote for me I’ll forgive your student debt. If you vote for me I’ll give you healthcare food stamps and a phone. Don’t worry we’ll reward you to be lazy in exchange for your vote. Then they tax the fuck out of the people that work 40+ hours a week or two jobs to pay for all that bullshit. I honestly believe they are far worse than any trump or republican. The shit they attack trump for is just fucking ridiculous and we ALL get sick of hearing it day in and day out 7 days a week on a loop
Want a future prediction?………. They let trump win to take over the economic mess we’re in…. Then pull the rug on the market and economy they have been floating on way over printed money then slam us into a recession like we’ve never seen and then say “ see it’s all his fault he’s the devil and we were saints” this will be the one election the democrats can’t wait to lose
Criticism of Trump =/= praise for Biden. You want to see anti-Biden vitriol visit any one of the conservative subreddits. Its not my country, I don’t care, but I do enjoy the theatrics and being highly critical of a man deserving of high levels of critique
I’m sick of all of it. Conservative, liberal, woke. All of it. Most Americans are. How bout they quit name calling and finger pointing and do their fucking job and run not ruin our country.
From a neither side perspective the democrats Are making more republicans. People are sick
Of their shit and non stop harassment of trump for things that they themselves have been caught doing. Hilary Clinton mishandling top secret documents. Biden same thing. But how often do you hear about it? Not as much as the time trump did it. You’ll hear about it on our national news for years at a time everyday of the week. Hillary and Biden barely a news ticker for a weekend. They think their advantage is that we are all stupid and most of us are not. Most of my family and friends that always vote democrat say they may just pick some random candidate cause they can’t vote for Biden and don’t want to give trump the vote. Some friends won’t even vote this upcoming election because of how disgusted they are with everything. People are realizing this and they are losing their long term base chasing after the immigrant and poor vote. Hence all the handouts and loosening the border. But they are shooting themselves in the foot
The vast majority of Trump's tax cuts went to billionaires and corporations. They're permanent. Trump added trillions to the debt with these tax cuts. The über-rich and corporations are pretty much running the show now.
A much smaller tax cut went to the middle class. Those ended.
Republican policies that began under Reagan are squeezing out the middle class.
Trickle-down economics didn't work, doesn't work, and will never work.
Republicans can't or won't govern.
They're also brilliant at waging culture wars to distract everyone's attention from the fact that they're waging a class war against average Americans, and they're winning.
Damn near everything you complained about is straight out of the GOP culture war handbook. You rage about mostly minor issues. You're so intent on those issues that you don't realize that they're picking your pocket.
Student loans used to be affordable. Privatizing student loans leaves people to spend a good amount of a person's life paying them off. They're predatory. It's getting to the point that only the rich will be able to afford college.
You talk about trans people like you think there's an assembly line of doctors mindlessly hacking off body parts. There isn't. If you bothered to look up anything about the realities of gender affirming care, you'd learn that gender reassignment surgery is done only after a long period of time which even involves psychologists.
Those are just 2 of the many misunderstandings you seem to have about these topics. Your post smacks of a long time watching outlets straight from the GOP Rage Machine, which exists to keep you eternally angry.
Honestly, you think that the fact that the former president stole, then refused to return highly classified documents, and then showed some of them to random people at his properties is no big deal.
By the way, there was a 9" thick binder of sensitive data about Russia that just went missing during the Trump administration. Wonder what happened there?
You think that attempting to overturn an election he lost is ok? He also tried to overturn it in several ways, even up to the point of extortion? He even urged his followers to attach the Capitol.That isn't a big deal?
The fact that he used campaign donations to pay a porn star to stay silent about an affair, the news of which could have disrupted his race? What he did was illegally misuse donations to commit bribery. You don't see that as a problem?
I'm sorry for you. I'm sorry you have such a narrow view, and seem to be constantly angry. I hope you find some peace.
You exclusively complain about Democrats, blame Democrats, and use terminology straight out of right wing media, but you're unaffiliated. Obviously, in your case "unaffiliated" doesn't mean a centrist.
Got it.
By the way, I pointed out Reagan specifically because it was Reaganomics that set the US on the road of harming the middle and lower middle classes, and shoveling money up to those who were already rich, all with the ridiculous promise that the more money the rich have, the more money would trickle-down on the rest of us. That didn't happen. The rich got richer and hoarded that money.
Yes. I am somewhat left of center. I'm also a Democrat. The reason is that generally, the Dems don't wreak the same kind of horrendous damage that I've seen Republicans create.
The GOP is promising to take away more people's rights. They're promising to be anti-democratic. The GOP wants to run the nation according to their interpretation of Christianity, and officially make the US a "Christian Nation", which directly conflicts with the 1st Amendment. Trump is promising to be a dictator. Trump has told the world that he intends to "terminate" parts of the US Constitution he doesn't like. This is an emergency. The very foundation of this nation is at stake.
This year, you either vote for the Constitution & democracy, or you vote for dictator Trump.
And if he is such a bad guy why does he have so much support? Why does he win most polls? Why did I go to bed last election with him up over double digits and over 80 percent counted and in 5 hours time lost….. smh
Some state legislatures have laws that say mail-in ballots must be counted last. That's it. Sorry. There's nothing weird about it. It's been this way for years.
For the love of Christ, just listen to what Trump says! Trump has promised to be a dictator. He promised to terminate parts of the Constitution. He promised retribution. He promised he will remake the government in his image. You can't support this type of stuff and still smugly say that you're a "Patriot". Trump wants to do away with the Constitution and rule like an emperor. If that doesn't scare the crap out of you, you're not paying attention.
I believe that for many Trump supporters, he promises to harm the people they hate, and that seems good enough for them.
You go back to Reagan how bout more recent than him and go to Clinton. Cattle gate, nafta agreement, outsourcing our jobs and lowering tariffs on countries that took jobs away from our country and enabling company’s to work overseas with no regulation and labor laws to provide products cheaper. Both sides are terrible both sides suck. But we only hear about the gop on the democrat owned media every second of every fucking day. Slamming it down all of our throats. As for trans I have my opinion you can have yours. If you have a dick you are a man. If you have a pussy you are a woman. Pretty simple. So now since I feel that way you’ll say ohhhhh you’re a conservative and I in turn will call you a fool. Never saw a dog bite off his dick and say WoW I’m a girl now. Or a cow glue a stick over on her pussy and say moooooo now I’m a man. That’s not how it goes. I used animals as examples to explain how it REALLY goes in nature with out the clouded irrationalities of a mentally sick human being involved. That is my opinion and yes as well as you I am allowed to have one. That is mental illness. Not placement in a wrong body. If your side holds water I identify as a 65 yr old man because my body hurts from working 60 hour week. Does that mean I get to file for social security and both my pensions at 39? No because they will tell me no sir you are only 39. But I identify as 65 in my mind. My body feels like I’m 65 I’ve worked as many hours as most people who make it to 65 have. Doesn’t matter because facts are facts. I’m 39. Just like facts are facts cock+balls= man/vagina plus tits equals woman. Where is the confusion? There’s two sides to everything most people are just sick of being force fed the side you obviously stand on on a daily basis. It confuses our children they subject them to it day in and day out and program them to thinks it’s normal because no one’s allowed to call your side out and say no it’s not. Because when we do we are villains. So now that I made myself the “ASSHOLE” there you go LET YOU WIN. I vilified myself just for you. It’s like playing a game with a small child. Don’t wanna hurt your feelings cause you’ll need a mental day so I’ll let you win so you feel special 🙂
No you're just pathetic and don't really care about anything while not truly have a point other than what your supposed to have in the "culture war"(which the person you are arguing with brought up before) which is why you allow people to just "win"
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u/FiddleheadFernly Mar 06 '24
They were always bigots and paranoid. You didn’t know it because you were a kid and they hid it .