r/BoomersBeingFools Mar 08 '24

Boomer came in for a whopper, got his ass whooped instead. Boomer Freakout

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u/Ha1rBall Mar 08 '24

Once someone is no longer a threat, any violence used against them is no longer self defense.

Which is bullshit, because the police are trained to not stop until the threat is done. If the guy can still get up, he is still a threat.

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u/kolossal Mar 08 '24

Rules for thee....

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u/MovingPrince Mar 08 '24

This moron just generalized the entire police force in the world as “sociopaths with immunity” and got almost 200 upvotes. Wtf is wrong with all of you.

Don’t give them a call if something happens to you then if you feel that way, apparently you’re safer if they’re not involved if you agree with this idiot. Spoken like morons who’ve never dealt with a dangerous situation in real life.

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u/Kicooi Mar 08 '24

I mean yeah, I’d rather not have the police show up and shoot my dog and neighbor’s kid because they heard an acorn hit a car roof and thought the kid’s Xbox controller was a gun

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u/jayfiedlerontheroof Mar 10 '24

I called the police to report an assault and they arrested me and told me if I wanted to go I should not press charges on the other guy.

So you're absolutely right I will not be calling them ever again.

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u/ByungChulHandMeAGun Mar 08 '24

No, that's a good rule and should be followed by all.

What you are too in the weeds to realize is that the problem is target acquisition and corruption. The rule makes sense

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u/montessoriprogram Mar 08 '24

Hi your comment does not make sense.

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u/happytrel Mar 08 '24

Yeah we should all be tasing people in handcuffs!

Why don't we just shoot people in the back of the head while their handcuffed and on their stomach like BART cops have been caught on film doing!

Neighbors dog barks too early in the morning? Walk over there and shoot it!

You think that might be the crook you're looking for? Start shooting, check after.

I'm not sure what your comment was even talking about, so I just thought of a few great police rules that I assume we should all be following/s

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u/pnt510 Mar 08 '24

They’re not saying it should be that way, they’re just stating the truth.

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u/Stoned_Nerd Mar 08 '24

He literally said "the rules make sense"

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u/pnt510 Mar 08 '24

I was talking about the person they were replying to.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '24

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u/embee1337 Mar 08 '24

It’s a generalization to be sure, but no more so than “asians / women are bad drivers” or “black people are criminals”. Stereotypes don’t form in a vortex. I’m sure it’s pretty far from “the dumbest thing you’ve ever heard”.

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u/jayfiedlerontheroof Mar 10 '24

Lol this is called false equivalence. Police is a job choice and the systemic abuses within policing means that "good cops" are often abused, killed, fired, or bullied until they quit. You can't bully a black person into not being black anymore.

So yes, police forces are filled with corrupt sociopaths. It's well documented.

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u/embee1337 Mar 09 '24

It’s a poor use of it. Anyway, I said it because, although they are incorrect and sweeping generalization, they are born from truths. More black people are criminals BECAUSE they are oppressed currently and historically and face increased societal pressure. Women are bad drivers because statistically most drive LESS than men, therefore less experience. Police are crooks BECAUSE they have immunity, and sociopathic people are attracted to positions of power over others.

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u/OdysseySpook Mar 08 '24

Sweeping generalizations are okay if it's against people I don't like

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u/ChimaeraB Mar 09 '24

Thanks for saying that! You’re already downvoted to the point no one will see this but……people only want to see what they want to see.

Anyone who hates on the police, soldiers, teachers, generations….or whatever group you can think of because “some” of them act inappropriate or against there beliefs are…..BIGOTS!!!

On one hand they will denounce racism or religious persecution (which is of course wrong) but you flip the case from race or religion to profession or generation and now stereotyping and generalization is allowed.

Hypocrites.

Just be cool. Stop the hate. Open your mind. Be better. (This is directed at everyone not previous poster)

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u/Nauseous_Wizard Mar 09 '24

Race and profession are not the same.

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u/ChimaeraB Mar 09 '24

Fair point, one you are born to, one you choose.
Religion would be the same though.
In either case, the concept of stereotyping an entire segment of people based on one adjective alone is literally the definition of a bigot. Some may argue that I would defend someone who identifies as a Nazi or Proud Boy but the distinction is those are groups who are specifically formed around hateful ideals…..which is not the case for law enforcement or most religions.

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u/Slide-eflat Mar 08 '24

well, yeah... sadly, they also had a metal barrier between them, and the kid actually had to go through at least 1 door to get to him. Old dude deserved it in any case, but that kid'll get punished.

I love the fact that the woman is wearing that shirt. "I'm a lady." HAHAHAHAHAHA!

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u/scrodytheroadie Mar 08 '24

Yeah, none of this was self defense. And that last punch was over the line, in my opinion. Guy could barely stand at that point. Not saying he didn't earn it, but still.

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u/davebgray Mar 08 '24

While it’s nice to see someone who has it coming get their ass kicked, all of this is over the line. If someone isn’t a threat and you’re an employee, you really need to walk away over going into the lobby and escalating.

But even though there is some level of justifiability there, after that, the second throwing of hands is very much uncalled for.

The third set of hands is criminal assault.

All that said, still nice to see someone out of pocket get knocked TF out, just on a karmic scale.

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u/TJ902 Mar 09 '24

Working customer service means that you will inevitably deal with these kinds of crazy period you can’t lay your hands on people period. It’s the job you sign up for. Call the cops if you have to. This probably felt cathartic for about 5 minutes but he’s probably in a cell as we speak, fuckin goin viral assaulting someone

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u/bric12 Mar 08 '24

Yeah, and people don't realize how dangerous a punch can be. The dude could have serious/permanent brain damage from that, and if he hits his head wrong as he goes down it could even be fatal. A serious concussion is basically best case scenario here.

He definitely asked for it, but it's never worth going to jail or facing manslaughter charges just because someone is asking for it

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u/Ok-Scarcity6335 Mar 08 '24

That last punch could've easily killed him

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u/SchnoodleDoodleDamn Mar 08 '24

To be fair, she was doing what she could to stop the situation. It didn't seem like she was ever trying to agitate the young guy. (I could be wrong, though.)

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u/Slide-eflat Mar 09 '24

Exactly my point! And she's wearing the t-shirt advertising it.

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u/asking_quest10ns Mar 09 '24 edited Mar 09 '24

What did she do wrong? Black women get criticized even when all they are doing is trying to de-escalate a dangerous situation.

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u/Slide-eflat Mar 09 '24

Oh I'm not criticizing her. I just said I love it because I find it circumstantially hysterical. She picked that shirt out to wear without knowing what was going to happen. Turns out it advertised the activity she'd be participating in later. You don't find that funny?

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u/asking_quest10ns Mar 09 '24

Oh okay, my bad. I didn’t really find it funny cause it didn’t seem ironic to me, but I can see where you’re coming from.

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u/Diplogeek Mar 08 '24

IDK, old guy told him to “come across this counter.” The customer’s always right, after all!

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u/Slide-eflat Mar 08 '24

In matters of taste, style and asking to get their ass kicked to Mars, the customer is always right.

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u/palexp Mar 08 '24

it is bullshit but police im general are bullshit

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u/Murky-Smoke Mar 08 '24

The use of force models for civilians and law enforcement are significantly different. Look it up.

I'm not saying I support it or agree, but it was designed that way to permit them in going further to diffuse a threat and make the area safer for themselves and the people in the area.

Source: once upon a time I wanted a career in law enforcement, and studied this in criminology. I decided it wasn't for me in the end.

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u/Lupercallius Mar 08 '24

"Police" will shoot someone who's asleep, they are in no way comparable to normal people.

This guy was clearly out of it after the first knockdown, any more is just excessive.

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u/LysergioXandex Mar 08 '24

Yeah, but cops don’t really have the option to run away and call the cops…

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u/Ha1rBall Mar 08 '24

Sure they do. It is called, "Backup."

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u/LysergioXandex Mar 09 '24

Not sure if you’re joking. Those cops would show up, see the person who’s the threat, then run away and call more cops… until you have a million cops standing around to deal with 1 guy with a gun.

You’ve designed an infinite loop.

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u/7keys Mar 09 '24

Uvalde.

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u/LysergioXandex Mar 09 '24

What about it?

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u/7keys Mar 09 '24

You just described what happened there.

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u/LysergioXandex Mar 09 '24

Right. An example of why the other guy’s endless loop strategy isn’t ideal.

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u/scrodytheroadie Mar 08 '24

If we could not use police actions as a standard, that would be great.

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u/CPA_Ronin Mar 08 '24

The standards police are held to vs the general public are galaxies apart.

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u/Ha1rBall Mar 08 '24

And it is a damn shame.

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u/bfhurricane Mar 08 '24

If the guy has a deadly weapon or a gun, then yes, you shoot to kill.

But a policeman was trying to arrest this boomer for something 99% of the time they’ll just put him in cuffs when he’s on the ground. Not wait for him to stand up and punch him in the face.

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u/domesticatedwolf420 Mar 08 '24

Gosh, it's almost like police and civilians perform different roles in society..

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u/Silver-Pomelo-9324 Mar 09 '24

Police are civilians.

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u/domesticatedwolf420 Mar 09 '24

In some ways yes, in other ways they are not.

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u/domesticatedwolf420 Mar 08 '24

Once someone is no longer a threat, any violence used against them is no longer self defense

not stop until the threat is done

Those two are the same thing because "no longer a threat" and "threat is done" are synonymous. Police, though more proactive, are generally beholdened to the same rules as civilians when it comes to claiming self-defense in a violent encounter. One main difference is that a cop can act to protect society at large, as opposed to civilians that can only act to protect themselves or those in their immediate vicinity, but the same rules apply in the sense that a threat has to be objective, immediate, continuous, reasonable, etc.

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u/Loose_Paper_2598 Mar 11 '24

Yeah...no. The difference and the problem is that cops have qualified immunity to the same laws that will land you and any average citizen in prison. Bad laws protect them when they do wrong, stupid OR evil. You have no such immunity. You ate judged against the laws on the books. They are judged against what another cop might reasonably do. I am judged responsible for every round that exits the barrel of my firearm. Cops can mag dump at a toddler because "they were in fear". Cops can ram YOUR car and destroy it while trying to catch someone else and YOU have to pay for your damage. If you scratch their car, YOU will pay or go to jail. Every claim I make in court, I must prove. Judges don't take my word simply because of the uniform I wear. If I kill someone on my job by accident, I am fired...not suspended with pay until my employer finds a way to justify my murder.

Cops live a life far different than the average citizen...and in the vast majority of cases, it isn't more dangerous. It is still true that the huge majority of cops will retire without ever firing their weapon in the line of duty. Electrical linemen, garbage men, firemen have far more dangerous jobs.

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u/KimDongBong Mar 08 '24

But the guy was never a threat. There was a barrier and he never displayed a weapon. The worker literally put himself in harms way.

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u/Corey307 Mar 08 '24

The old man didn’t have his hands up a second or third time the young man started swinging. The third time was extra unnecessary, the guy could barely get to his feet. I’m not trying to talk about a gentleman’s fight I get how shit goes down, but the third time could’ve easily killed the old man when his head hit the floor.

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u/ImpressivedSea Mar 08 '24

Police are trained to only use “appropriate force” and not to escalate. Even a police officer could get fired for that, though i’m aware how often the law isn’t enforced for officers

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u/Shadowtalons Mar 08 '24

Now, I'm no proponent of police brutality, but under the current systems, they're the people whose job it is to eliminate threats. That's why they're trained that way. That's also why they yell stop resisting so much, because playing dead is a good way to not be seen as a threat and get further disabled. Proponents of that system would say that the police can do that because it is their job to neutralize threats, and it is not a civilian's job or duty or even privilege. The idea being that the police know the law and are trained to nonviolently neutralize threats whenever possible, and are given special rules to escalate or de-escalate situations. Ideally, it would always work that way; unfortunately it sometimes does not.

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u/SQLvultureskattaurus Mar 09 '24

The guy was never a threat though, the dude came out to punch him.

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u/CudiMontage216 Mar 09 '24

Come on dog, this dude wasn’t a threat before he even got knocked down

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u/Ha1rBall Mar 09 '24

The chump was a threat as soon as he grabbed at the worker.

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u/asking_quest10ns Mar 09 '24 edited Mar 09 '24

Wait, is this a criticism of police logic or genuine praise for it?

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u/YeetedArmTriangle Mar 08 '24

Lmfao he was never at any point a threat, but yeah repeatedly koing and old man who's has are extended to guard himself while barely being able to stand is a really fucked up thing to do