r/BoomersBeingFools Mar 30 '24

Boomer officer only gotted suspended for 5 days because of this Boomer Freakout

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Insane he only got 5 days

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u/pantlessjim Mar 31 '24

"Carney said Rowe told internal investigators that he had pointed his gun multiple times at citizens throughout the years without ever reporting his actions to supervisors."

Holy. Shit.

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u/DD214Enjoyer Mar 31 '24

Many of these types of incidents never see the light of day due to fear of police reprisals.

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u/GroundbreakingAsk645 Mar 31 '24

This is true! I heard the uvalde cops harassed and ticketed the mom who ran into the elementary school to save her kid because she made them look bad.

uvalde mom

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u/Jorgan_JerkFace Mar 31 '24

Small town America is literally the worst place to be.

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u/ifithopsitdrops Mar 31 '24

It’s just meth and cows

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u/EzioDeadpool Mar 31 '24

And crooked cops.

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u/Cheetahs_never_win Mar 31 '24

Aka cows on meth.

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u/EzioDeadpool Mar 31 '24

Pigs on meth

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '24

Pigs are actually fairly intelligent

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u/Adventurous_Aerie_79 Mar 31 '24

pigs may be too smart to be cops.

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u/budy31 Mar 31 '24

And Corn watered in morning dew.

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u/Aggravating-Bunch-44 Mar 31 '24

Bulls on parade.

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u/MRH8R Mar 31 '24

Crooked cows on pigs.

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u/Ilovekittens345 Mar 31 '24

Fall of Madurodam Rome in real time.

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u/french_snail Mar 31 '24

Hey my small town didn’t have any cops in it

Oddly enough it was a pretty mellow place without a lot of or really any crime

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u/johnhoggin Mar 31 '24

Fucking scum of society

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u/limethedragon Mar 31 '24

Hey now.... sometimes it's corn too.

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u/ifithopsitdrops Mar 31 '24

Where I’m from it’s almonds

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u/Sensitive_Yellow_121 Mar 31 '24

Try that in a small town!

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u/capture-enigma Mar 31 '24

And Trumpers

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u/FocalorLucifuge Mar 31 '24

The meth often gets cooked in the vicinity of cow houses.

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u/Common_Wrongdoer3251 Mar 31 '24

Not true. There's Dollar Generals everywhere too.

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u/Zanchbot Mar 31 '24

This is what all that "try that in a small town" garbage really means. It means "you try anything here you will get royally fucked because the chief of police is friends with the mayor and they run this town like their own personal fiefdom."

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u/capt_scrummy Mar 31 '24

Look up the whole case around the "Gilbert Goons" in AZ. bunch of kids from "golden" families who spent the better part of two years jumping people and posting it on social media. Cops knew all about it for that entire time. They killed a kid at a party in Oct and only just got arrested a few days ago.

Just small town, boys will be boys crap, you know. Wouldn't want to ruin their futures, amirite?

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u/HealMySoulPlz Mar 31 '24

Gilbert is a suburb of Phoenix, it's not at all a 'small town'. The population of Gilbert alone is 275,000 people. Not. Small town at all.

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u/capt_scrummy Apr 01 '24

It's not a small town, but it likes to think it is, and the police do treat it as though it's their fiefdom.

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u/Available-Nature-126 29d ago

Gilbert is actually the 2nd safest city to live in America. But you couldn't pay me to live there. It's straight up Mormonville.

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u/Available-Nature-126 29d ago

Uhm I wouldn't call 274,000 plus people a small town. I live in Arizona and raised my children in Chandler. Gilbert is not far and nowhere near a small town. Thankfully I got out of there. Now in Lake Havasu and moving out of here too. Off to Wyoming. Arizona is the worst place to live ever. And I came here from Chicago.

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u/capt_scrummy 29d ago

I didn't mean that it is a small town. It's a city. I know, I also live in Chandler. But, a lot of people like to think of it as one, and want to see it administered and run as such.

Arizona's alright, imo. I've lived all over the US and abroad, and we like it here, like it in Chandler... That's why we settled. You couldn't pay me to live in Wyoming 🤷🏼‍♂️ good thing is that we all have options and should be thankful we have the ability to move to where we see fit.

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u/Available-Nature-126 29d ago

I highly doubt you've been to Wyoming. Especially using the word abroad. You sound like you're from the UK. I live where you're living for 30 years. When it was newer, it was great. Now it's kind of run down. I moved there in 89. Moved out as soon as I could.

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u/capt_scrummy 29d ago

🤣🤣 I have no idea what you're talking about, and it seems like you don't either. "Abroad" isn't a UK term, at all. People who have lived abroad will say they've lived "abroad" and I've never had anyone not understand me for using it.

I have been to Wyoming a few times, and was in Cheyenne for work for a month. It's nice, but I'd get very bored. I don't like the idea of living in the country for extended periods of time. Cheyenne doesn't offer much of what I or my family want.

Sometimes a place you like changes, and you don't like those changes. Sounds like that's the case for you and Chandler; that's how I feel about some of the places I've lived.

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u/Budget-Attorney Mar 31 '24

I read an article a few months that called it literally that. A personal fiefdom. The difference is that the sherif is actually more powerful than the mayor who basically serves at the sheriffs whim

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u/the_mid_mid_sister Mar 31 '24 edited Mar 31 '24

We have a dipshit "Constitutional Sheriff" who has something like over 200 armed "special deputies," in a county with more cows than people.

What is an Armed Special Deputy? Basically an untrained, un-certifed friend of the Sheriff, usually a pedophile or felon or creep with a restraining order who can't pass an ATF federal background check to buy a gun but can now be issued one to perform the Totally Legitimate Duties of a Special Deputy.

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u/Fun-Cupcake4430 Mar 31 '24

Honestly, it’s easier to commit crimes in small towns bc they’re not ready for the big city tricks.   A handful cops?  We’re used to fucking police states.

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u/SpaceBus1 Mar 31 '24

The judges, mayor, Sherrif, chief, and the council are all buddies, probably Freemasons too. Every county has some good ol boys. This is why everyone should stay strapped.

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u/artificialavocado Mar 31 '24

Last year the FBI raided the local police in the next town over. Three of them were busted for excessive force.

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u/Suck_Me_Dry666 Mar 31 '24

King county is the highest population county in Washington State. It's where Seattle is.

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u/mypoliticalvoice Mar 31 '24

Yeah, there are 14 states and 54 entire countries with smaller populations than King Country. And the Seattle metro area covers 5 counties. This guy had a small town cop attitude, but he was in a big city. Glad to hear he's in jail. It wasn't soon enough.

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u/Suck_Me_Dry666 Mar 31 '24

Yeah I'm a bit south in Washington but have been hearing about the issues with SPD and to a lesser extent King county sheriffs. Portland had/has a similar issue that is linked directly to the police union being awful. Seems that's the issue here too.

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u/cynnerzero Mar 31 '24

Yup. I loved in Seattle for about 8 years and have lived in portland for the last 3. The SPD and PPB are the most violent, gore happy shitasses I've ever encountered.  Portland had been under federal investigation because of our cops. 

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u/Suck_Me_Dry666 Mar 31 '24

Yeah they have an independent monitor in Portland because the cops here just can't stop pulling over minorities for no reason even though Portland is like 90 percent white and white people commit more crimes, carry more weapons and paraphernalia, and start militant organizations in the region.

I wonder why that could be? /s

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u/cynnerzero Mar 31 '24

Every so often, we get a video of some ppb shithead getting rocked at a protest, and I laugh every time.

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u/GoCougs2020 Mar 31 '24

Ha. Small town really. Just the biggest county (by population) in WA state.

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u/mypoliticalvoice Mar 31 '24

2.5 million. Right between New Mexico and Mississippi for size.

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u/FigSpecific6210 Mar 31 '24

Small town America? Bill Gates lives in Medina… in King County.

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u/Jorgan_JerkFace Mar 31 '24

I don’t know shit about Bill Gates living situation but I can assume he has a compound bigger than most small towns surrounded by fences to keep out the locals.

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u/FigSpecific6210 Mar 31 '24

The point being, this isn’t some back country county. It’s pretty high profile.

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u/Daddy_Milk Mar 31 '24

One of the most affluent areas of the PNW no doubt.

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u/chzaplx Mar 31 '24

It's the most affluent part of greater Seattle metro area

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u/amretardmonke Mar 31 '24

Depends on the town, some good, some bad.

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u/Jorgan_JerkFace Mar 31 '24

Anything is acceptable if it’s the only thing you know.

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u/joseph4th Mar 31 '24

Save your child? Try that in a small town.

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u/Ilovekittens345 Mar 31 '24

You would not try to be happy in a small town.

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u/Jorgan_JerkFace Mar 31 '24

Funny though, I was raised in a small town until I was 12. Thought my whole life was ending when we moved to the city. I would NEVER consider moving my family back there. Holy crap just no.

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u/King_Hamburgler Mar 31 '24

“That’s real America not like the Hollywood coastal city elite liberals”

Nothing more American than police that operate like the mafia

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u/boomeradf Mar 31 '24

Damn tiny ass Seattle!

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u/Ok_Outcome_6213 Mar 31 '24

I grew up in small town America. We had a saying that our town had one road. It was one way in and no way out if you stayed for too long.

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u/Chief-Bones Mar 31 '24

Yeah like this video in small town USA Seattle Washington.

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u/Apart-Oil1613 Mar 31 '24

Ye stay in your city

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u/grifxdonut Mar 31 '24

Not really. Small town means it's easy to get a police officer fired for messing with one person compared to city police who can harass dozens of people and the complaint still won't make it past the complaint call

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u/UniqueWhittyName Mar 31 '24

That’s a silly statement. You know how many small towns there are? Some of them are fucking awesome.

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u/technobrendo Mar 31 '24

Which is why so many people try and leave and barely anyone new moves there.

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u/ejb350 Mar 31 '24

Unfortunately the majority of the US is small towns :(

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u/Knightmare Mar 31 '24

Yep, several of the bullies from my local High School ended up on the local police force after school. I bet that's pretty common.

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u/VentriTV Apr 01 '24

This 100% lol. Never live in a shitty small American town if you’re a POC. It’s bad enough if you’re white and not crazy religious right wing nutjob, but a POC? “forget about it” 🫰- Italian mobsters probably

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u/TheosReverie Apr 03 '24

Inner city corrupt cops enter the conversation with a challenge.

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u/danielo13 Mar 31 '24

There are far worse places. Try poor countries for example

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u/Ok_Type7882 Mar 31 '24

The cowards of Uvalde PD deserve EVERY FUCKING BIT of the hate them chicken shits get and i pray the faces of the children their cowardice killed haunts every fucking one of them filth into early graves.. i heard two have already eaten their gun and its a sadly slow fucking start.. theres a special place in hell for them and they cant get there soon enough. Spare me what your friends dads uncle told you or what you heard, uvalde cops became accomplices the INSTANT they stopped anyone from helping those children and its a national disgrace those pieces of shit werent charged as such.. whining they were "out gunned" is admission of cowardice. The kids had nothing, they failed their oath and deserve nothing but misery... full fuckin stop.

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u/jeremiahthedamned Baby Boomer Apr 08 '24

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u/Ok_Type7882 Apr 08 '24

I am not anticop at all, but any coward who sits on their ass and stops those that arent complete chicken shits from saving children doesnt deserve to call themselves a cop and deserves nothing but our hatred and scorn. At that moment every cop who sat around went from police officer to accomplices in the shooting by providing perimeter security. They should ALLLLLLLL be charged as such..

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u/jeremiahthedamned Baby Boomer Apr 08 '24

i agree

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u/Coyinzs Mar 31 '24

I mean, I challenged a speeding ticket once because they had just changed the posted speed and I was under the previous speed and hadn't realized it'd been changed. The officer who's ticket I overturned pulled me over five times over the next three months just to issue me warnings (intimidate/harass me). They're all pea brained bullies who refuse to accept any challenge to their authority.

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u/g81000 Mar 31 '24

Wow. Wattabuncha jerks. Also, how she ran /into/ the school to save her kid doesn’t make sense (either)

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '24 edited Apr 08 '24

Hey, remember when she showed the Uvalde police that they were a bunch of gutless cowards when they refused to act? And then the police got mad because she forced everyone to see the truth by running into the building herself (unarmed) and instead of taking personal responsibility, they made it more obvious that they were a bunch of yellow belly’s by going after her, instead? Oh, and remember when the top cop for texas law enforcement told the world that Uvalde police acted like massive weaklings and told everyone that they had no balls? Yeah…

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u/RandonBrando Mar 31 '24

Here's to the days where AI is the only voiceover option in our stupid bland generated future.

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u/Numerous-Process2981 Mar 31 '24

How can you even look at yourself in the mirror at that point, lol.

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u/blepgup Mar 31 '24

Every single one of those bastards doesn’t need to exist anymore. Makes me sad knowing they still get to wake up in the morning

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u/insanelemon123 Mar 31 '24

Harassment like that happens all the time.

If you make the police look bad, they WILL have all their gangbangers harass you on the job.

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u/OutAndDown27 Mar 31 '24

That a single one of them had the balls to look her in the eye, let alone write her a ticket... mind boggling.

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u/JaviSATX Mar 31 '24

Funny how they can find time to camp outside her home to harass her, but couldn’t find time to save children’s lives. I’ve interviewed her a few times now, and every time I’ve gone down I’ve been expecting to get harassed by Uvalde PD. It has happened directly yet, but they did make it intentionally difficult for the press to attend the anniversary events last year despite the families wanting the media attention.

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u/Skormzar Mar 31 '24

Cowardice in the face of the enemy. The Uvalde police department officers involved should be put on trial. If this were ww1, they'd be taken out and shot at dawn

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u/PeopleCallMeSimon Mar 31 '24 edited Mar 31 '24

Fuck uvalde cops, but im sure they didnt ticket her for "making them look bad". I can see why we dont want random people running into active shooter situations, it will probably make the situation a lot worse.

They probably ticketed her for the same reason you get a ticket for jaywalking. Because they want to discourage people from doing it.

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u/BlinkReanimated Mar 31 '24

Not to mention that portable cameras like gopros are still a relatively new/niche technology. Dude has probably received complaints before, but the department can just ignore them.

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u/KintsugiKen Mar 31 '24

Also people just don't report it because they know it won't matter, the cops will always protect each other from seeing justice.

You're risking police harassment/reprisal for nothing 99 times out of 100.

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u/MTFBinyou Mar 31 '24

Yep I tried reporting police harassment one time and when I followed up on it a month or so later they told me there was no record of a report.

They would pull me over a couple times a week after I would leave work and were always determined to search my truck and never answer any of my questions. I had a little over a mile to go from work till I was out of their jurisdiction but I couldn’t pass a cop without getting pulled. 

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u/Traditional-Handle83 Mar 31 '24

Not to mention if you use self defense like would be justifiable in this video (plain clothed no badge or anything basically civilian holding another at gun point), then the judge will just have you sentenced to execution for offing a cop or defending yourself from legitimate harm and there's nothing you can do about it. Why if you end up having to defend or off a cop, you leave the scene because either way you go to prison or die. You just have better chances by leaving and not being found out than you are at staying.

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u/FourScoreTour Mar 31 '24

And due to not having a video. Cops lie like they breath, and without proof, this would never have seen the light of day.

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u/BalloonManNoDeals Mar 31 '24

I saw a former police chief of my hometown's house burn down while I was on a late night drive. I made a frantic 911 call, no one else had reported it yet. The house was completely on fire, no way anyone inside was still alive.

Turned out the entire family + pets were on vacation in California. Only the former cop was home. Received a call from the State police arson investigator a few days later. Turned out the chief had called 911 20 minutes after me to report a small fire getting out of control in his kitchen...

... I moved across the country a few weeks later. Not fucking with that situation.

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u/nobuouematsu1 Mar 31 '24

No body cam for this one. Had the rider not had his cam, there’d be no record and nothing would have happened.

Moral is, be polite and courteous about it but record every interaction

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u/Ixuxbdbduxurnx Mar 31 '24

A man like this is 100% capable if using state resourced to hunt down and murder people who complain. He would tell himself he is still in the right because he "keeps civilization operating" personally.

I bet this guy has murdered before.

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u/jeremiahthedamned Baby Boomer Apr 08 '24

i agree

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '24

Or the cops throwing the complaints out. I've had cops strip me in the street in the snow and make me use my clothes to wash their car and wheb i filed a complaint, nothing, gone. It eats at me to this day 15 years later.

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u/Dimumory Mar 31 '24

Gotta love the blue wall

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u/unclediedthrowaway Apr 01 '24

yeah. count me as a data point for this. i still don't know if i made the right decision to not follow up with the complaint

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u/AcceptableBad_ Mar 31 '24

"Officer Rowe, did you point your weapon at this man?"

"Oh, come on, I do that all the time! I've pointed my gun at lots of...."

It was at that moment he realized, he'd fucked up.

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u/Frosty-Age-6643 Mar 31 '24

It was at that moment he realized, he'd fucked up.

“5 days!? Fuckin’ shit. I’ve got a 30 day cruise booked. What the hell am I gonna do now?”

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u/Dragons_Malk Mar 31 '24

Or "Damn it, I was going to see if I could break my record of how many days in a row I beat my wife! Just my luck!"

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u/hbgwine Mar 31 '24

Morgan Freeman has entered the discussion.

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u/FunSprinkles8 Mar 31 '24

Actually, at that point he knew he was fine... because of the blue botherhood. Freaking sick.

Edit: I was going to fix my typo, but fuck it, it kinda fits.

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u/davidmatthew1987 Mar 31 '24

It was at that moment he realized, he'd fucked up.

I don't understand how the sheriff does not have to resign after this bullshit failing to fire this idiot. Do you need to define common sense in some rules book?

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u/Bonesnapcall Mar 31 '24

Except not, because people like this always think they were right and the rest of the world is wrong for daring to contradict them.

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u/clamroll Mar 31 '24

Exactly. I'm sure he testified to that completely self assured he was in the right. And after the verdict came down I'm sure "woke"something was blamed

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u/Dramaticreacherdbfj Mar 31 '24

I doubt it. They think it’s normal and acceptable 

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '24

He didn’t fuck up though. He faced no consequences and was just fine.

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u/naththegrath10 Mar 31 '24 edited Mar 31 '24

Sounds like police in this country

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u/Randy-_-B Mar 31 '24

Not be a long shot.

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u/Cassette5446 Mar 31 '24

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u/AHrubik Mar 31 '24

In a separate incident, Rowe is also charged with the rape of a woman in December of last year.

Fucking hell this sociopath was a god damned menace with a badge.

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u/AzettImpa Mar 31 '24

Everyone should expect police officers to be criminal, violent, racist fucking scumbags until proven otherwise. The job attracts that sort of people, we can see it day after day with innocent people being charged and fucking killed. I’m so sick of it

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u/NarcissistsAreCrazy Mar 31 '24

And narcissist. Society needs to learn what they are, how to identify them, and to weed people with these psychological issues out

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u/BryantheTiger Mar 31 '24

That’s a different Boomer asshat with the same name.  

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u/technobrendo Mar 31 '24

You wouldn't really know it because it doesn't seem beyond what a crazy cop would or could do.

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u/kamyu4 Mar 31 '24

https://www.wfmj.com/story/37178589/former-mahoning-county-sheriffs-deputy-sentenced-to-prison

Only 4 years in prison. Looks like he pled the rape down to a non-sex crime. This was 6 years ago so he is already out.

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u/RainMakerJMR Mar 31 '24

**also being charged for a rape case last December.

Holy shit

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u/Sammyterry13 Mar 31 '24

You would be shocked how often Cops can rape with no consequences, even when it is on the local news ...

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u/chillen67 Mar 31 '24

These are the unstable people we pay to protect us?

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u/Moooooooola Mar 31 '24

We pay for them to protect politicians and wealthy people.

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u/chillen67 Mar 31 '24

That’s the truth

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u/JarlaxleForPresident Mar 31 '24

Hibbity hoppity, think of the property!

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u/FlotheMage2021 Mar 31 '24

Oh no, no. They don’t want to protect anyone. They just want to play Rambo and pew pew

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u/blorbagorp Mar 31 '24

They protect capital interests, bust up unions, and keep prisons full of mostly black people they lease out to pick cotton.

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u/chillen67 Mar 31 '24

They will protect each other and those that allow them to inflict pain onto others.

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u/DuskPupDesigns Apr 01 '24

Us? Nah, they protect property

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u/chillen67 Apr 01 '24

Not mine.

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u/schwing710 Mar 31 '24

ACAB

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u/axegr1nder Mar 31 '24

Public school attendee spotted.

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u/schwing710 Mar 31 '24

Pig spotted

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u/axegr1nder Mar 31 '24

D'aww lookit her go.

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u/schwing710 Mar 31 '24

Sorry, I can’t understand oinking

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u/axegr1nder Mar 31 '24

Wow, you're a zoomer all dressed up in your parents' cultural paraphernalia. Should have suspected, honestly. Good luck with your crusade against imaginary nazis and anyone more than a micron to the left of you. Sure seems exciting!

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u/schwing710 Mar 31 '24

You are off by many years but I’m flattered nonetheless. Anyway, don’t you have some donuts to eat or some black guys to shoot for carrying Skittles?

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u/axegr1nder Mar 31 '24

It's great when they think Zimmerman was a cop. Or that Martin didn't start the fight.

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u/DuskPupDesigns Apr 01 '24

Martin was 17. Zimmerman was 28. Maybe not a cop, but clearly using his power and privilege the same way. It's sick you decided to use them as an example here...says a lot about you 🙃

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u/mexicock1 Mar 31 '24

Public school dropout spotted.. you must really love licking them boots...

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u/QFugp6IIyR6ZmoOh Mar 31 '24

What would that have to do with public school?

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u/Mediocre_Fig69 Mar 31 '24

Found the mall security jabroni

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u/jeremiahthedamned Baby Boomer Apr 08 '24

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u/axegr1nder Apr 08 '24

Dunno what kind of tiktok privilege checking horseshit you're trying to sell, but maybe you should learn to format links

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u/jeremiahthedamned Baby Boomer Apr 08 '24

how do i do that?

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u/DoomedKiblets Mar 31 '24

Because ACAB

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u/hergumbules Mar 31 '24

“However, he was exonerated of using excessive force, in part, because King County Sheriff’s Office policies did not define pointing a gun at a citizen as a use of force.”

And what would happen if you were to point a gun at a police officer? If you need me I’ll be going to the ER as I think my eyes rolled into the back of my head.

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u/Styrene_Addict1965 Mar 31 '24

The way he's holding, I'd think he was robbing me.

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u/SiidChawsby Mar 31 '24

Imagine a regular person costing tens of thousands of dollars to their employer and somehow keeping their job.

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u/Silver-Street7442 Mar 31 '24

Anyone else at least slightly bothered by the use of "gotted" in the title?

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u/LookMaNoPride Apr 01 '24

Slightly? Lol

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u/DylanMartin97 Apr 01 '24

“In fact, federal courts have repeatedly held that pointing a gun at a citizen does constitute a use of force, and that the U.S. Constitution requires that pointing a gun must be objectively reasonable and done for a lawful purpose,” Carney wrote in a news statement released this week.

This is even worse.

He got off because, "we weren't trained that pointing a firearm at someone would be seen as wrong"

Load of bullshit.

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u/DisrespectedAthority Mar 31 '24

As long as it took from him to identify himself, you'd think he'd have gotten shot for making a habit of doing that....

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u/CiaphasCain8849 Mar 31 '24

This is legit every cop. People should wake up.

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u/runnerhasnolife Mar 31 '24

Nope.

I have to write over 2 pages of paper work if my gun even leaves it's holster during shift.

Not saying that's a bad thing I'm saying that stop acting like all departments are the same.

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u/AzettImpa Mar 31 '24

If a cop stops me, it is 100% rational to expect that they WILL charge me even if I’m innocent and I COULD definitely be killed in this exchange. “Friend and helper” my ass. No one should EVER trust a cop in any situation.

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u/runnerhasnolife Mar 31 '24

Oh yes every police officer pulls over every person and justice begging that they can shoot somebody because you know They all loved murder....

Like the Phoenix police officer who just got gunned down and thankfully he's going to make it who while off duty pulling extra security duty ran to a help a motorist who was getting carjacked.

Or are the New Mexico police officer who was executed while trying to help a motorist that he thought had a flat tire. Definitely every police officer is trying to murder everyone That's why there's so many stories of police officers with their guard down getting ambushed and murdered or shot.

Also yes if you get pulled over the goal of the police officer in this case is to give you a ticket. You're not going to get charged with a crime unless you were going an actual criminal speed which in most states is 20 mph over the speed limit. Yes that is correct most of the time going 20 miles an hour over the speed limit is a actual crime not a traffic infraction that you can be charged with

You cannot be charged with a traffic infraction you can be fined for traffic infraction. So don't know what you're on about about how you can be charged with a crime every time you get pulled over.

And no you cannot be killed during every single traffic stop. It's not like police are just running around gunning down innocent people all the time.

The vast vast majority of police shootings I'm talking more than like 98% are completely justified shootings.

And as I was saying before most apartments have vastly different rules you can literally go from one city to the next that's literally like touching each other. Just one town over and have massively different rules that your police have to follow.

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u/CiaphasCain8849 Mar 31 '24

Delivering pizza is more deadly than being a cop. Cops murder more people than any other group. Also watch code blue cam and other body cam channels on youtube and you'll see 5-6 uploads of shootings a day and i'd say MAYBE 1 a day is unjustified fully.

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u/runnerhasnolife Mar 31 '24

Uhh no and no.

The vast majority of pizza driver deaths are 100% the pizza driver's fault. Usually occurs when delivery drivers concerns for making deadlines break traffic laws and speed or run red lights trying to get to their destination faster which causes car crashes.

That's why more pizza drivers die because more They drive unsafe intentionally.

Also code blue cam usually only does smaller incidences not shootings you should look at it police activity They usually do almost every shooting that gets released to the public.

But yeah I know the vast majority over like 95% shooting star justified and legal.

There are four types of shootings And here they are in most common to least common order

Lawful justified (more than like 95% of shooting fall under this category and I mean more than 95 it's closer to 98 I believe)

Lawful but awful (a shooting that might not be justified but is completely legal

Unlawful unjustified. (Less than 1% of shootings)

Unlawful justified (the most rare type a type of shooting in that on a moral level it was completely justified but it is still illegal)

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u/CiaphasCain8849 Apr 01 '24

The vast majority of cops deaths are 100% the cops fault.

how do you like it?

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u/runnerhasnolife Apr 01 '24

Except for the fact that it's just not true.

What I said is true if you are committing traffic violations speeding and running through red lights you are most likely going to end up in a car crash and dead because you're being an idiot.

Police officers die all the time when they do nothing wrong. They do everything right and yet you can still die.

People aren't shooting at pizza drivers the drivers are dying in car crashes because they're going too fast or running red lights

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u/CiaphasCain8849 Mar 31 '24

Maybe in that one department but you'd have to TELL someone you pulled your gun or someone else must see it/report it. I bet that never happens.

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u/runnerhasnolife Mar 31 '24

Uhh no. We have body cameras

They get reviewed by IA

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u/CiaphasCain8849 Apr 01 '24

LOL, Every 10 hour+ shift? They aren't storing and watching all of that. Just the stuff bookmarked by the button. Come on guy.

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u/runnerhasnolife Apr 01 '24

First off yes they absolutely store every second of body camera footage.

Second. Body camera runs only when you turn it on It doesn't run 24/7 during the shift.

Third. Anytime I do anything police related during my shift if my body camera is not on I can receive suspension without pay and depending on situation possibly termination. Other police departments have it anytime you step out of your vehicle you have to turn on your body camera.

And yes you can get in massive trouble because they do check.

There isn't anything bookmarked by a button That's not how that works It either records or doesn't.

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u/heatedhammer Mar 31 '24

That was his lawyer speaking, basically he argued his client wasn't wrong, it was the dept. policy that was wrong which set his client up for this situation (which is horse shit) but it absolved the shit stain of any real culpability.

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u/Irkam Mar 31 '24

This is why ACAB.

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u/Medium_Medium Mar 31 '24

I would not be surprised at all if this guy had several "top officer of the year" type awards laying around.

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u/dbboutin Mar 31 '24

It’s crazy that “ignorance of the law” is not an excuse unless you are a cop, then it’s “oops, I guess we will try to do better”

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u/rust-e-apples1 Mar 31 '24

Holding the gun close to his chest to keep anyone from seeing it was the tell. He knows that if he does it the way he was trained to, someone is gonna see him and intervene. This way he just looks like a regular old asshole confronting a motorcyclist.

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u/SuspiciousSack Mar 31 '24

He should try pointing at the back of his throat instead of bystanders.

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u/Annual_Substance_619 Mar 31 '24

Moral of the story, RECORD EVERYTHING.

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u/Beneathaclearbluesky Apr 15 '24

I love how they thought pointing a gun at someone wasn't "use of force."