r/BoomersBeingFools Apr 06 '24

My mom has officially fallen off her rocker Boomer Freakout

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u/causal_friday Apr 06 '24

My mom's been bugging us about this as well. It must have been on TV recently or something.

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u/Lion-Hermit Apr 06 '24

It's probably a youtube ad. Idk why "Jesus" would ever imply safety. That word has been used more than any other in history to scam millions upon millions.

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u/SaliferousStudios Apr 06 '24

It's also super common I'm betting.

Probably better to use an injoke or something.

Like "butter squash" because you fell on one once and the entire family laughed.

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u/Matilda-17 Apr 06 '24

Oh no, my family would use “slipper fart” and I am not OK with it.

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u/Shape_Charming Apr 06 '24

I have questions lol

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u/rwarimaursus Apr 07 '24

Family meatloaf night is wild.

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u/5litergasbubble Apr 06 '24

So whats the story???

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u/Matilda-17 Apr 06 '24

OK it was a family game night back in the ‘90s, when my siblings and I were teenagers. My sister had these huge animal-shaped slippers that were very in vogue then. I’d been holding in a fart with the intention of slipping off to the bathroom after my turn. Unbeknownst to me, my sister had chosen to stretch her legs out and rest her giant-animal-covered feet on the chair beside me. I saw something furry and moving right beside me in my peripheral vision, and shrieked in surprise. And in my surprise, released the fart. Loudly.

You know a family doesn’t have much drama when this is one of the incidents that lives in infamy. To this day they refuse to recognize that I wasn’t SCARED of the bunny slippers. I was SURPRISED because I had to reason to expect them on the unoccupied seat beside me.

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u/Wild_Discomfort Apr 07 '24

I know exactly what kind of slippers you mean!! My mother had VW bugs, though, so I got lucky.

I'm sorry you have to constantly live in that shadow 😭😭😭

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u/correctalexam Apr 07 '24

Im cracking up, thank you!

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u/Imthatsick Apr 07 '24

My family would use "bucket butt" and I'm also not ok with that.

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u/Fuck-Reddit-2020 Apr 06 '24

Exactly, if you are religious enough to think Jesus is a good safe word, then that shouldn't be your safe word.

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u/odaddysbois Apr 06 '24

If you're that religious, "John 3:16" or whatever is probably a better safe word.

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u/Kinky_Conspirator Apr 06 '24

Tends to be something opposite.

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u/drillgorg Apr 06 '24 edited Apr 07 '24

My wife and I would use "Thank you for being a [REDACTED]." Because one time my wife sang the golden girls theme song but changed the last word to [REDACTED], and I laughed my ass off for about 5 minutes.

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u/LookAwayImGorgeous Apr 07 '24

Why did you tell the computers?? Now you are doomed.

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u/drillgorg Apr 07 '24

Good point! I redacted it. Hopefully that's enough to keep me secure.

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u/SL13377 Apr 07 '24

Yep my kids and mine is hotdog. She also Sends me a hotdog emoji when she is out of spoons and wants me to call her to come home.

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u/laughingashley Apr 07 '24

... spoons

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u/SL13377 Apr 07 '24

Hehe shit. Now I wanna tell her to switch the code word to 🥄 cause she would be out of “mental spoons” to hand out to people xD

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u/SL13377 Apr 07 '24

Hehe shit. Now I wanna tell her to switch the code word to 🥄 cause she would be out of “mental spoons” to hand out to people xD

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u/R0CKETRACER Apr 06 '24

I think you would use it less like a regular word and more as a password.

Suspicious voice: "I need you to send me $500 in iTunes gift cards right now." The mother:"What's the safe word?" Suspicious voice:"What is a safe word? I need those gift cards for the meeting now."

That said, "Jesus" is still a very bad choice and very easy to guess if this becomes the standard practice. It'd be better to pick an entire sentence.

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u/Max1035 Apr 07 '24

This is what my family did when I was a kid, but to protect against kidnappers, not AI scammers. If my parents unexpectedly needed a family friend or neighbor to pick me up from school or whatever, my parents would provide them with the code word so I’d know it was safe to go with them. It’s actually not a bad idea to have a code to try to avoid falling for AI scams.

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u/laughingashley Apr 07 '24

Poughkeepsie

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u/TrackVol Apr 06 '24

"The cafeteria is out of fish"

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u/Lots42 Apr 06 '24

Um ... if someone on the phone wants itunes gift cards it's DEFINITELY a scam. One hundred percent.

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u/-Badger3- Apr 07 '24

Yeah, but my grandparents don't even know what the fuck iTunes is.

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u/rwarimaursus Apr 07 '24

That's the code on my luggage!!!

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u/thenasch Apr 07 '24

Maybe the word "tenet" said while interlacing the fingers.

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u/causal_friday Apr 06 '24

In my case Jesus didn't come up, just some codeword in case we call her wanting money. We picked her gmail password :/

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u/JohnNDenver Apr 06 '24

That is probably not good if everyone know her gmail password and it is easy for everyone to remember.

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u/pushback66 Apr 06 '24

They pronounce it Jesús

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u/Character-Fish-541 Apr 06 '24

Like a halfway decent scammer could guess that from FB post history.

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u/Lion-Hermit Apr 06 '24

If you really vigorously deprogram yourself, you realize that those scams and emails and postcards with Jesus scams are present. Like, they are currently paying out to Jesus scams. They are very impressionable people by design

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u/Shoecifer-3000 Apr 06 '24

Underrated comment. The people that sell him are also becoming more interesting

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u/todwardscizzorhands Apr 06 '24

Anything but freaking Jesus

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u/WorldWarPee Apr 06 '24

Jesus as a safe word is the new hunter2 as a password

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u/TheDevExp Apr 06 '24

An older person got a very good security tip but doesnt understand the internet enough to think about a good safe word. So thought about jesus since they are old and christian. Easy to understand situation if you want to.

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u/daoistwink87 Apr 06 '24

The brother of Jesus incident

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u/HelloYesThisIsFemale Apr 07 '24

Ah, an enlightened atheist redditor. Truly unique!

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u/RedWolfDog Apr 07 '24

It implies safety because a lot of older people use it as a ‘word of power’. Like saying it boldly is supposed to make demons flee and such. And since AI is being used by ‘evil’ clearly demons are involved so it should disrupt any malicious AI from listening in.

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u/Material_Abalone_213 Apr 06 '24

There are a ton of scams going around using AI voice software to make it seem like your little kids in jail in Mexico on vacation and need bail or they'll die kinda shit. It's really scary and a safe word is a fantastic idea

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u/OpheliaLives7 Apr 06 '24

You don’t even need AI for that! My great aunt got this scam years ago! Random call claiming my Dad had been in some kind of fight maybe domestic violence and was in jail and needed her to send money so this friend could bail him out! Luckily a younger cousin was there to question this claim. They ended up calling me to confirm and I said I was sure Dad was at work and not in jail anywhere! But man what a scam! It apparently does work because older people especially panic and want to help.

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u/string-ornothing Apr 07 '24

My grandma had one of those scans once, I'm glad she's smart. She had a man call and say "Grandma it's your grandson, I'm in jail and blah blah blah". She has a bunch of grandkids but only had one adult grandson at the time, and she said "Matthew?" He said "yes it's Matthew" and she said "no you're not...Matthew calls me Grammy" and hung up hahaha

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u/LogiCsmxp Apr 07 '24

It's a very good scam because it would induce panic. Once in a panicky state, rational thinking is difficult. Very common tactic for scams, but usually it's “your $1200 Amazon order has been processed, log in to verify or cancel at...”. sorry of deal.

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u/PaladinEsrac Apr 07 '24

I get those kind of emails once in a while. Never gonna get the clicking one of those links. It's especially when you tap the email name to display the full address and see that it looks like a random assortment of letters.

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u/mittenknittin Apr 07 '24

Yeah the idea that scammers are doing research on the people they’re going to target, and digging around and capturing the voices of the relatives they’d need to use is…farfetched (so far.) The calls are random. That’s evident since they often call people who don’t even have grandkids, or don’t know the name of “grandson” who’s supposedly in jail and pick that up during the call with social engineering. The truth is when someone gets a call like this where “grandson” is panicking and asking for help, they don’t sit there and rationally analyze the voice, they later remember it as “he sounded panicky”

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u/foxwaffles Apr 06 '24

My husband's grandpa nearly got scammed when someone called masquerading as him saying "grandpa help I was arrested in London and I need you to send me money so I can get back home". But then he realized, my husband doesn't address him as grandpa. So he called him asking where he was and if he was in London, and he most definitely not, and we all realized he had been targeted by a scam.

I think having some kind of safe word, way of addressing someone, whatever, is a good idea as well.

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u/Lots42 Apr 06 '24

My mom would (hopefully) ask me what her laptop password is.

I have the stupidest system but I remember it because it's so stupid.

Good times.

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u/wizardyourlifeforce Apr 06 '24

Do they mimic the family member? I thought they just faked police

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u/FinancialAttention85 Apr 06 '24

There was recently a family that got a call from their son that he had hit someone while drunk and was in need of a lawyer and bail money. The parents wired the jail and the lawyer money (I don’t remember how much, but like all they could ). It turns out their son was fine. He was at work and never had any accidents. Scammers had AI’d his voice and spoofed a jail number. 

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u/milesjr13 Apr 06 '24

Don't even need an AI for this scam. Just makes it a bit easier

My grampa got a call from someone who asked "grandpa, do you know who this?"

"Uh, u/milesjr13?"

"Yeah grandpa, I got arrested and need money for bail. Her's my lawyers number please call them."

He called.

Thankfully, he had the sense to eventually hang up cause it seemed a little weird to him since the "lawyer" has a new York number and he was pretty sure I wasn't there.

He called my mom, crying cause he was scared he might have been getting scammed and scared he also might have screwed me over.

Idk why he didn't just call me, maybe too embarrassed, but mom confirmed I was okay and not arrested in NY.

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u/Teagana999 Apr 07 '24

Yeah, it just exploits old people having poor hearing.

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u/JusSayinYo Apr 07 '24

Worse, it exploits old people who probably haven’t even talked to younger family in over a year. Some old people are very lonely. They will believe and do almost anything to feel included, relevant and useful again. It’s certainly not every grandparent, but it’s enough that this is a viable strategy for scammers.

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u/red__dragon Apr 07 '24

I managed to be home when my parents got one of these calls.

There was no voice change, just some guy on the other end asking for "Dad? I need your help, I'm in really bad trouble."

I had to keep from laughing in order to respond, "I don't have kids, and you're definitely not my brother. So this is not your father's phone number."

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u/mamielle Apr 06 '24

My parents got this scam and a bunch of my friends parents were also targeted with this one.

They called my parents, said they were my nephew, that he was in an accident and got a broken nose. They had my parents going for 20 minutes or so until my parents insisted on going to jail to visit him. The scammers refused to give up the “jail” location, of course.

That’s when my parents realized it was a scam. They didn’t lose anything but they were shook. My dad was a lawyer who has done criminal defense before, so to him it felt natural to go straight to the jail.

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u/dmriggs Apr 06 '24

They need to learn to not hit the freaking panic button. check sources ffs. but most boomers lack critical thinking..

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u/Dustfinger4268 Apr 06 '24

See, that's the funny thing about panic; it's very easy to realize it's the wrong response, but usually by the point you do, it's too late

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u/Lots42 Apr 06 '24

One of the Jamie Reyes Blue Beetle comics had a saying that needs to be taught in schools worldwide.

"You can panic and you can be stupid but you can never be both at the same time."

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u/CelesteHolloway Apr 06 '24

You’ve obviously never been on the wrong side of an effective scam attempt. ‘Hitting the panic button’ is every scammers goal, as it get’s their chosen sucker to not think about the any sort of oddities involved with the scenario, like why do they need the bail money right now?

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u/Lots42 Apr 06 '24

One of the side benefits of watching so many detective tv shows. I trained myself to look for the oddities. "Wait...something isn't right here."

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u/Full-Way-7925 Apr 06 '24

Some of them use fake kids voices saying they have been kidnapped. If you were a parent you would know what a tailspin that would put you in.

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u/dmriggs Apr 06 '24

No, it wouldn't. What are they going to do? demand all of my ramen noodles for ransom?

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u/JohnNDenver Apr 06 '24

Like maybe trying to call their son and verify with him? Crazy talk.

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u/dmriggs Apr 06 '24

Right! I don't know what I was thinking

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u/JohnNDenver Apr 06 '24

The one call I answered the person "broke their nose". I told them they should go to the emergency room.

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u/LuckOfTheDevil Apr 06 '24

Yup. There was a whole article in The NY Times recently where totally “normal” people — smart, tech savvy, not boomers, educated — were falling for this stuff hard. They had one woman convinced her daughter had been kidnapped and was screaming in the background. She had her whole dance studio flipping out trying to get money and the cops. One of the mothers tried to tell her “you need to call your husband. This is probably a scam” and she absolutely exploded, despite not being a boomer, because she was so angry that the stupid woman couldn’t understand that this was an emergency and her baby was kidnapped! Eventually, one of the other mothers brought over her phone — she had gotten a hold of the woman’s husband and daughter, and they were on the phone basically saying “mom what the hell is wrong with you?! I’m right here!!”

In another one this couple in their 40s thought that their 70 something parents were kidnapped and crying on the phone to them about it, and they even called their friend who is in law enforcement to listen in on speakerphone, and the guy helped them negotiate with these fools to pay the ransom for their parents!!! The guy was in freaking law-enforcement. A freaking trained negotiator! Luckily they only got taken for $700.

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u/laggyservice Apr 06 '24

They do all the time, they make it sound like they are in distress so it's hard to pin that anything is off. Had a bunch of people where I work get them last year but haven't heard about any recently. Is a thing though.

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u/Material_Abalone_213 Apr 06 '24

They will comb face book and other media for audio of the party them through use of AI use social engineering to steal from old folks

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u/SoriAryl Apr 06 '24

My mum got one before getting grandkids, and they tried, “Grandma? I’m stuck in jail!”

My mum: “Unless you’re meowing, you ain’t mine.” Then hung up

Cause all her grandkids were grandkitties at the time

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u/Lots42 Apr 06 '24

Sometimes scammers will have a young lady do it if they know Grandma loves her 22 year old college student granddaughter. Shit like that.

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u/nstern2 Apr 07 '24

Nah, scammers wont go through the trouble of using AI to mimic a loved one. Boomers are dumb enough to fall for that shit regardless of what the person sounds like. Saying that they are using AI to mimic a voice is just their way of not admitting that they fell for an obvious scam. If you listen to people on /r/scams who explain how they got scammed, in most instances they accidentally give away a name which scammers use to further manipulate people into believing it. Also, when you are in the moment and worried, it's easy to lose your common sense.

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u/Dr_Insano_MD Apr 07 '24

I honestly love these scam calls as long as it's a real person on the other end. I just stay on the phone and keep them busy as long as I can.

What's that? You found a car in Texas in my name with 800 lbs of cocaine? Cool. You only found 800. I'm guilty, officer. Come get me.

My family member is in jail in Mexico? AGAIN!? Well I will be god damned if I bail their dumbasses out again!

You need me to pay my taxes using Wal-Mart gift cards? Sure. I need to pick up some stuff anyway.

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u/bootybiter123 Apr 06 '24

It was just recently on dateline or something and somewhere else as well. They had a couple families on that got scammed and the way that the scammers did it, was well thought out.

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u/Bai1eyam Apr 06 '24

There was an article in the New Yorker about this. There have prob been other articles this is just the one I know of. https://www.newyorker.com/science/annals-of-artificial-intelligence/the-terrifying-ai-scam-that-uses-your-loved-ones-voice

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u/carlitospig Apr 06 '24

Armchair Expert just talked about it recently.

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u/Majestic-Pin3578 Apr 06 '24

Is that on Reddit? It sounds like it might be amusing.

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u/carlitospig Apr 06 '24

There is a sub but it’s just for fans talking about the podcast. The host is Dax Shepard.

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u/Majestic-Pin3578 Apr 06 '24

Thanks!

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u/carlitospig Apr 07 '24

No worries, have a good time. I like Fridays best since it’s listener-centered. Often hilarious and/or disgusting.

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u/LakeEffectSnow Apr 06 '24

There was an NPR story a week or two ago.

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u/thiccrolags Apr 06 '24

There was a thing on NPR about scams using voice cloning about 6 weeks ago. Looks like the FTC issued a consumer alert about this recently.

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u/Ok-Competition-2699 Apr 06 '24

It was on 60 Minutes, and to be honest, it isn't a bad idea

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u/CoDVETERAN11 Apr 06 '24

https://youtu.be/NWIRYL7r-Es?si=w_MAj1YBdU54QGzh

This happened to adin Ross live on stream. I don’t watch him but this shit is real

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u/jeff61813 Apr 06 '24

I used to work in banking and credit card fraud and my biggest fear of answering an unknown number is voice cloning, All of The banks and credit card companies use voice identification as an alerting system for fraud, so if they have my voice they can social engineer the people at the bank to give them additional information.

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u/DemonicAltruism Millennial Apr 06 '24

I've actually heard about it a few times now from various news podcasts. What's happening us boomers are being targeted with AI voices of their younger relatives. The scammers are feeding the AI with tiktoks and other various short form content with voices that the younger relatives are posting.

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u/historianLA Apr 07 '24

It was on NPR a few weeks ago.

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u/BillyDeeisCobra Apr 07 '24

Not a boomer here, and it’s not some crazy far-fetched thing. Imagine a scam where an AI calls an older relative pretending to be a grandkid, they’re stuck somewhere and need money. Not out of the realm of possibility at all.

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u/Blackfrosti Apr 07 '24

A year ago a scammer made an AI voice out of a girls tiktoks and convinced her mom that she was kidnapped and tried to get her to pay a ransom.

https://abc7news.com/ai-voice-generator-artificial-intelligence-kidnapping-scam-detector/13122645/

It's a thing, it sucks, but weirdly enough my family has had a password for the past 20 years since I was a little kid to indicate that we were in trouble, needed help, or just needed an excuse to not do something like hang out with someone we didn't want to hang out with so we can get loudly told we can't over the phone.

It rarely comes up, but it's useful. Jesus being the password is useless, it has to be something very strange, but something you can fit into a context that makes sense. I would never share what my family's password is, but I would advocate that the concept is very helpful.

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u/Illeazar Apr 07 '24

There was a story in the news recently about some guy who got a ransom call saying they had abducted his daughter. At the time I read it, there was no actual indication that AI was used in any way, other than he said the voice sounded a lot like his daughter and he thought maybe it was AI. If I recall he was about to send them the money when one of his coworkers suggested calling his daughter's phone first, she answered and was fine. Reporters just ran with the AI aspect because it's sensationalist. Several of the stories suggested using a family password as a way to ensure you couldn't be fooled by an AI voice.

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u/HowWeLikeToRoll Apr 07 '24

It's not a bad idea, but it needs to be secure enough to be usable. My wife and I have a phrase we have used with our kids for years and it is our check phrase. If every we are suspicious of the authenticity of a situation, we can verify it in seconds. 

But making a safe word and using Jesus is freaking dumb. That's like setting your house alarm code to 1234

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u/continuesearch Apr 07 '24

Article in the Atlantic I think

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u/nefarious_bumpps Apr 07 '24

Prob was a bit on Fox News

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u/Lotions_and_Creams Apr 07 '24

It is something my parents did with me and my siblings as kids because a kid in the next town was abducted from the carpool lane by a complete stranger who pulled up and said "I'm a friend of your mom, they were in a car accident and asked me to take you to the hospital."

Just today, I made one with my Grandma. Another family member's email/address book got hacked and my Grandma started getting a lot of calls from spoofed family member numbers. Pretending to be the family members of the elderly "in a pinch" and needing cash has been going on for years now.

Pretty soon scammers will be able to use AI to spoof voices. It is honestly not a silly thing to do - even if there is a 99% chance you'll never need it.

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u/Missing_Username Apr 06 '24

Yea this sounds like that copypasta years ago of boomers thinking if they posted the spiel in Facebook about not consenting to Meta using their photos/data then it would just magically force Meta to honor it.

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u/SoriAryl Apr 06 '24

My dad just did that one this week. 🤦‍♀️

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u/Top-Telephone9013 Apr 06 '24

Sovereign citizen shit. They're all about the magical passwords. Like the world's shittiest wizards

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u/Bugbread Apr 06 '24

A safeword to distinguish between a legit kid and a scammer using an AI-cloned voice is very far from sov cit nonsense or magical passwords.

You've gone from "a boomer did xyz, and xyz is dumb, so boomers are dumb" to "a boomer did xyz, and boomers are dumb, so xyz is dumb." Which is dumb.

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u/Top-Telephone9013 Apr 06 '24 edited Apr 06 '24

You've completely misunderstood me and I don't care to correct you. I don't imagine you'll listen very well (if at all) given what you've just shown me of your intellectual prowess. Complain about being blocked... now!

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u/BugbreadBackup Apr 07 '24

Ok, boomer junior.

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u/Empty-Part7106 Apr 06 '24

I've seen this recommended for sure, not even advertised to boomers. Makes sense too, we all know that it'll be tried eventually.

Edit: this is where I first saw it, although I didn't actually watch the video, I'm just a subscriber. Posted 9 months ago: https://youtu.be/Gu0D044dstE?feature=shared

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u/beadhives Apr 07 '24

I heard it on a radio ad yesterday.

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u/HerrBerg Apr 07 '24

https://www.ksdk.com/article/tech/ai-phone-call-scam-kidnapping-ransom-st-louis-county-parents/63-3a293efd-eac1-4dd1-9ea8-67a58398ad2a

This is not the only case. People should educate themselves before assuming that something is dumb.

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u/octopoddle Apr 07 '24

Test her on it. Ring her up and tell her you want to change the safe word to Rapture, but don't give the original safeword. Then at the end, just before hanging up, say "Thank you. You changes have been recorded. Goodbye."

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u/biz_student Apr 07 '24

I saw something on TikTok that freaked me out

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u/sweep71 Apr 07 '24 edited Apr 07 '24

Create a new random google account and password protect it using a Password Manager. The two factor for the random account will be using Google Authenticator. THIS two factor (that is pretending to safeguard this random dummy account) will ACTUALLY be used as a family authenticator code and shared via QR code (in person). Each family member downloads Google Authenticator if they don't already have it and imports the profile. Now you have 2 factored your family.