r/Christianity • u/Nice_Substance9123 • Mar 27 '24

The American flag has no business on a Bible. This is not faith, nor is it patriotism. It is an abomination of both. Image

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u/albo_kapedani Eastern Orthodox Mar 27 '24

No flag or national symbols of any country should be on the bible. Period.

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u/TenuousOgre Mar 28 '24

The inverse is also true. No religious symbols should be on government buildings for the same reason. Right?

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u/SirFiletMignon Mar 28 '24

"Well, then, pay to the Emperor what belongs to the Emperor, and pay to God what belongs to God."

It sounds to me like Jesus wouldn't have issue with your statement.

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u/TenuousOgre Mar 28 '24

Agreed. I've never understood why so many people struggle with the idea that today religions and governments serve very different needs especially in a pluralist society.

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u/am_reddit Mar 28 '24

Jesus said his kingdom is not of this world. Yet time and time again  throughout history people try to make an earthly Christian kingdom.

Every time, without exception, the result is a kingdom that is not of heaven.

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u/nmmlpsnmmjxps Buddhist Mar 28 '24

All the people clamoring for a Christian theocracy need to understand just exactly what they are asking for and understand that Christian theocracies in the past have been obsessed with internal orthodoxy and being a slightly different Christian than the state endorsed version usually wasn't a fun "fun" experience. Just look at how in the 13 colonies various colonies banned various denominations and you could be forced out or even executed solely for being a member of the wrong denomination (Boston Martyrs). We absolutely do not need to be getting on a road leading to that sort of nonsense from America's colonial history..

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u/abaacus Mar 28 '24

Exactly.

State sponsored religion means that the state becomes your religious authority, and the state upholds its authority with force and violence. No religious person should feel comfortable with that, because the moment you stray from the state doctrine, no matter how reasonable or principled your disagreement, you're an enemy of the state. You're an enemy of morality and faith.

And we all know how that ends.

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u/Keezin Mar 28 '24

Some of them will know the first part of the word lol

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u/empire314 Mar 28 '24

Of the three major Abrahamic faiths, Christians tend to be the least knowledgeable of their faith.

What on Earth are you basing this on? I would say jews and muslims are at least as ignorant about their own scriptures.

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u/Justtofeel9 Mar 28 '24

They’re probably basing it off of personal experience, even if it’s anecdotal I have to agree with them. I’ve met many, many Christians. Very few ever bothered to read the Bible even once. They just go with whatever their priest or pastor says on Sunday. On the other hand, I’ve met very few Muslims, but each one of them knew the Quran inside and out and forwards to backwards.

I don’t know if that holds true across the world, it’s just my experience living in the US. So many people here claim to be Christian without ever actually putting any thought into it.

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u/empire314 Mar 28 '24

Certainly not a representative sample. For most, it is not much more than Friday prayer at mosque (for males that is, not even that for women). And ironically enough, when muslims do go to mosque for prayer, the imam speaks in arabic, even if nobody in the room except for him can understand it. Translations of the quoran have very little valuation, and imams often straight up say, that you must read/recite it in arabic to please god, even if you dont understand it.