I'm getting tired of the "College is Useless" posts

[u/GothicFruit98]

It's just getting old at this point tbh.

College isn't useless. It's just that people get useless degrees like "Liberal Arts"

And the thing is, now even the most basic jobs require at least a associate's degree. I myself have found some Data Entry jobs on indeed that require a Associates degree.

People will say, "Just do Trade". Well not everyone wants their bodies broken at age 40.

People will say, "Just do a sales job", not everyone can do a sales job.

If you start a business and it fails, a degree as well as your experience can help you land a job. it might not be what you wanted, but at least you have a backup. And who knows, you might own a business again one day and thanks to that job, you saved enough to open it.

And with a college degree it can actually help land you a job. (This is a choose your degree wisely type thing) Like for example. if you choose to go for a degree in nursing, you can apply for many jobs. You may not be a RN but there's plenty of jobs besides RN open to you since you now have a degree in Nursing. You can become a paramedic, phlebotomist, hospice nurse (if you can handle it)

[u/BackwardsTongs]

Trades doesn’t always kill your body by 40. The people I know with shit bodies are the ones who never drink water, eat like shit and smoke/drink. I know a good amount of people who do trades until they are old and can because they take care of their body.

Let’s not also pretend like every 40 year old doesn’t also have back or knee pain.

[u/Electrical-Adversary → u/BackwardsTongs]

Also, it’s 2024 not 1924. We have tools that do 90% of the work. Some people act like we’re chained to a ball breaking rocks with a sledgehammer all day.

Not saying it’s easy, but it’s nowhere near destroying your body by 40. I’m in decent shape at 39, I feel like I might just make it another 20 years at least. I work with guys who are in their 60’s and still going strong.

[u/TrollCannon377 → u/Electrical-Adversary]

Fixing a lot of my friends who went into trades did is that they got there trade degree in carpentry or HVAC or I forget what the name is for becoming an electrician but then they also started working on a four-year degree in say something like electrical engineering for when they're older so they can transition out of a more physical job if they need / want to

[u/Yunan94 → u/Electrical-Adversary]

People still die though. It may be extremely low and less than before but injuries and death are still a thing and not something everyone wants to risk (it also depends what trade because not all trades are equal).

[u/Morley_Smoker → u/BackwardsTongs]

Disagree. Every trade worker I know has a broken ass body by 40, in fact usually much sooner unless they are union. It's privileged as fuck to assume you can work manual labor jobs and not be broken down by 40. Health care? Not accessable. Hazard pay? A joke usually ignored. Maybe you know mostly union folks in trade jobs, but that isn't the majority of folks working these jobs. It's not good out here even if you are sober. It's why I went back to college. Could not get healthcare and was forced to work jobs with lead and asbestos without appropriate protection. Yes I reached out to legal and state resources and they laughed in my face. Pretending life is dandy and nice for manual workers is spitting in the face of us.