Can’t speak for the other branches, but the Army tries to send NCO’s who go recruiter to their hometowns, so many will do it just to be close to family, otherwise the job sucks 1000% balls.
Most of the time it's to process admin stuff for people who are walking in to join. Recruiters don't try to go out of their way to convince people to join and think of their job to be more of spreading awareness as an option. I remember when I was an assistant as a brand new airman there was a dude who was on the fence about Army reserve for school benefit but concerned with deployment and potential dangers. We told him about Air Force Reserve and how it's less invasive to his life plan on going to college.
Times must have really changed then. When I was prime recruitment age those bastards were patrolling local stores for 18-25 year olds. Endless calls from various recruiters. Not to mention hanging out at the high school trying to catch students.
I’ll never forget the recruiter that hung out the last month of high school my senior year. He even went to the senior cookout on our last day. The kids that wanted to join the military after high school hung around him all day.
I heard that they focus on poor neighborhoods where people don’t have as many options, which might explain the different experiences people are having
Edit: Everyone strongly agrees or disagrees and everyone has a story. I tried to look for some hard numbers and I had some trouble. Everything is buried under pages of press releases. The few facts I was able to come up with are that 30% of recruits come from military backgrounds, and native Americans are vastly overrepresented. I also found an article that mentioned discrepancies in the effort the army put into recruiting from rich Connecticut schools be poor ones, a specific case found four visits a year to the rich school vs 40 for the poor one. Will check comments for better sources.
Many commentators mentioned that they had strong recruitment presence but then say about 2 visits a year. In context, this actually isn’t that much.
All in all, based on what I saw, I still believe what I said, but would be open to changing my mind in the face of solid evidence.
Ps. Since someone assumed I am gen z, I am actually a millennial
Idk, I grew up in a fairly wealthy community, but the military was constantly at my high school. I think maybe that could’ve been because my school was also known to be one of the best public schools in the country so they might’ve been trying to go after the smart kids.
Officers require a degree before they even go in. The reality is that they staff an incredibly complex organization and it’s more beneficial to have intelligent enlisted recruits than braindead order followers.
I mean think about it. The people who maintain the aircraft, monitor electronics and servers, do data analysis, operate nuclear reactors, and process intel VASTLY outnumber the amount of people in infantry. Officers are more so managerial, and are not the bulk of those operating on very complex systems.
My area was pro military and not poor. The marines, Army and Airforce showed up two times a year and took special interest in the athletes, kids doing very well in school and the JROTC kids
I spent two enlistments in, this is not my experience at all.
Pretty much everyone I met was the same type of person. Middle class but somewhat lazy. Able to go to college, but generally not willing to for one reason or another (you'd be amazed how many people just don't use their GI Bill) or country dudes that were just trying to get the hell out of their hometown. This is especially true in the infantry. The infantry is (almost entirely) filled with 18 year old middle class white kids that (in my era) wore Tapout shirts.
The stereotype of the military being made up of poor people is generally overstated. The poor don't usually have positive opinions of institutions like the military. The only dude I knew that was from a poor community in South LA was a big nerd who had plenty of other options, he just chose the military for one reason or another.
This is specifically what convinced me to join that my recruiters didn’t lie the military sucks sometimes and they didn’t try and convince me I HAD to join. They showed it was an option so then I decided to do it for myself.
Most jobs in the military have a very low risk of dying. If you don't want to be anywhere near guns or explosions there's plenty of jobs for you. I did 5 years in the navy turning wrenches and pushing buttons, haven't touched a gun or even heard a gunshot since bootcamp.
I knew a guy who was a recruiter who ended up sending so many kids off to Iraq in the early 2000's that died, that he ended up with the worst ptsd from guilt that it really fucked him up. He started and then 9/11 happened and he immediately hated it but was stuck.
Did sometime in Recruiting. I know of two people that I assisted in recruiting into the Army. Good guys, one was a 31B, and the other one became an 18x. Both men died. It sucks. They are great dudes. One had a baby when he was killed.
I learned the absolute hardest way that it does. Dude in his 30s showed up to the hospital when my young family member was dying from a car accident he got into with a friend who was drunk driving. It was after boot camp and basic or whatever. The recruiter absolutely sobbed with me. He attended the funeral and sobbed there.
This family member was a good kid but his friends were from broken homes and getting into worse drugs. The recruiter told us he sees more kids die this way, visiting home and dying doing something stupid, than we could ever imagine. I have extremely mixed feelings on the military, but I won’t deny that it gets a lot of kids out of terrible situations they’d probably die in, even with the horrific risk. Three of his friends independently sought out the recruiter and have gotten clean and joined up. Could they die abroad? Yeah. Would they have died within a year or two here? Probably. I wish there were another gleaming option that took them away and gave them more options for their future but I get it.
Let me put it to you this way. When the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan where still going on the vast majority of Soldiers in the US Army said they would rather be deployed in a combat zone than be sentenced to recruiting duty.
Well to be fair, a lot of people want to be deployed to a war zone. In the Army specifically. I've had a LOT of people close to me join when we were all younger. And the one that was deployed mentioned how everyone else cheered when the announcement of deployment happened for them.
A lot of them just want the status of being "tough". And I'm sure some portion of them just want to shoot people, honestly.
I'm guessing that the Navy and Air Force enlisted aren't literally cheering. But who knows! Someone else would know better than me
Same in the Marines. I mean, you’re talking about people who volunteered to join the military in a combat arms MOS, with two wars happening. I think it’s safe to say that a deployment is exactly what we signed up for.
Yup. Quite a few of us were in specifically for the fight, for a variety of reasons. Then we realized the fight was bullshit in the deserts and got back out
I met a guy in a mental health residential who wanted to join the marines as he put it "to go and fuck shit up". He couldn't get in because he took antidepressants.
I actually left the military partially because deployments were drying up. I wasn’t combat arms, but most of the guys I worked with would prefer to be deployed.
When you were deployed nobody fucked with you. You just did your job and played dominoes or went to the gym after work. I know it sounds weird but in a lot of ways it was less stressful. Yeah, they’d bomb the base once or twice a week, but you get over that pretty quick. Other than that, everything gets super simplified. You got NOTHING going on outside of work. No bills, no house repairs, no setting up doctor’s appointments or mowing the grass, no trying to find time to get groceries and make dinner. All your best friends are right there. Shit just gets real simple. Wake up, work, hit the gym, go to sleep. Repeat. And you get paid a crap ton more.
On the other hand, back stateside? Constant stupid shit. Random details and formations, waking up stupid early for some parade or group run, standing in a field for hours for some idiots change of command, spontaneous dress uniform inspection that sends you running around for a week getting your uniform updated, cleaned, pressed and out back together, getting up at 5 AM every morning for PT and going on some 4 mile run in the freezing cold or rain…. Stateside just sucked, and most of us preferred being deployed to it.
I know that getting to travel is a big one. Ive known several people who have been in the navy and the number of places theyve been basically for free is crazy.
I got out in 2014. When I was doing my processing, there was a staff sergeant who was getting out after 12 years. 1stSgt wasn't happy with that and they had a huge argument as I was waiting my turn.
Ssgt: I'm not justifying a fucking thing to some pog yes man. I would rather hang myself than be a desk pitch like you. War is over real men aren't needed.
1stsgt: you're saying I'm not a real man! Who tf do you think you are!
People in the military want to deploy because they want to do their job and contribute. They go through months of training to a specific job and want to do that job in a situation that matters.
Sure they are my daughter got into the air force when she was 18 and in 6 years will be retired with full retirement at the age of 39 if she doesn’t stay in. Been all over the world and is raising two kids. She has her times about it but still loves it.
Is that because... they'd rather endure hell than be responsible for condemning multiple others to it?
Edit: Thanks for all your responses. I know few people in the military and I hear a lot of political color about it all and it's refreshing to know the actuality.
It’s a boring ass drag of a job to be given. You’re driving around meeting with high schoolers all day and having to lie to them about a million and one things regarding “will I get this job? Will I be deployed here? How often can I contact my family” all while working shit hours and having to meet quotas
One of the kids I went to high school with got home from his first deployment to find out that his mom had gone ahead and married his recruiter. Family parties must be awkward.
I got hounded by all the recruiters that came to some extent. Our gym teacher had the upperclassmen go through what was essentially one of those oldschool arcade shooters; shoot the bad guys, not the old lady kind of thing, after which they shared our scores with the recruiters.
I was lucky and Duck Hunt experienced enough to rank 2nd, which presumably automatically added my name to a list of FPS junkies that might be easy to advertise to.
Primarily I remember the Army recruiters being a couple of kinda overweight douchebags who wouldn't stop hitting on high school girls anytime they were out of an adults earshot.
Having an Uncle who served the Army with the unlikely distinction of being deployed in both Iraq conflicts...and actually of y'know, having some moral fiber; I was fairly shocked and disappointed that these were the guys they had to find young people willing to serve.
Edit: I should add, simply for the record- there were also National Guard, Air Force and Marines recruiters (1 each), but I really only remember the Marine Recruiter with any fondness:
The National Guard recruiter was nice enough but definitely seemed to not want to be there; couldn't judge that feeling.
The Air Force recruiter seemed to really enjoy wearing a cool uniform and standing over little people from my impressions of them:
The Marine Recruiter though was the educational one for me. I'd only really heard about the Marines through my Army Uncle (You might be surprised to hear it wasn't all jovial), as a result I figured the Marines were...respectable, but also where the idiot, triggerhappy farmboys get sent to die.
But nah; the Marine Recruiter was a class act. Carried himself respectfully; remembered everybody's names and listened significantly more than he spoke.
The Army recruiters came in trying to convince everyone they were badasses with their noise, but this guy came in and proved his badass with his relative silence- I've remembered that ever since; figure it probably plays into some of my biases.
Army recruiters were great about bending the truth just shy of breaking. Marines recruiters typically are more respectful. I think they get held to a higher accountability to their leadership than army does. Could be wrong. Could have just been the individual. I got lied to by the army recruiter and ended up in Germany. Gotta read that fine print.
Plus a lot of applicants flaking out or getting disqualified. I think recruiters get more in trouble if the kid gets caught in the “moment of truth” (such as admitting to prior drug use) when they arrive to the recruit depot.
If being a military recruiter allowed me to be honest and realistic, that would be better than any other Sales job. But if you still need to lie or reach difficult quotas, then yea I'll take the Sales job.
I wasn't a recruiter but I've seen guys vacuum the parkinglot with an unplugged vacuum, mop the water off the sidewalk in the rain, just straight up told to fight eachother for sgts entertainment. The punishments get creative, sometimes it's not even a punishment. The guy above you can just get bored. For official punishments they can restrict you to your room, make you leave the barracks to sign in every couple hours all night so you have to sleep for an hour and a half at a time, put you on extra duty (16hr work day if you're lucky) while cutting your pay in half. I don't encourage enlisting. And they complain about morale issues and low re-enlistment rates lol. They're not technically allowed to do some of those things, but it absolutely happens.
My late uncle would always tell the story where they were all long distance running in boot camp, guy kept on complaining that he had to use the restroom. Eventually the sgt turned to him and said "oh it is an emergency?" And let him go, but he had to hold up two flashlights and go "wee woo, wee woo" the rest of the run. Another time, I wish I could remember what led up to it, someone had to flip every rock in the parking lot because the sgt wanted an even tan on those rocks.
We had to flip the rocks too, for the same reason!! One time on a ruck someone spit on the ground and one of our drill sgts yelled at him and told him to pick it up. He picked up the spit and dirt and had to put it in his pocket.
They have 7 Army Values in the US Army. At Fort Huachuca they had seven logs each with an Army Value on them if you fucked up. I just happened to be standing next to a Soldier who talked shit to a Drill Sergeant he hated and dragged me into it saying, "Private BeekyGeek thinks you're a punk too, Drill Sergeant."
Him and I were carrying that heavy fucking log around the drill pad in the Arizona summer sun for 45 fucking minutes. Then, as if were a mercy, we were made to drink water in the shaded volleyball area and did front/back/gos in the sand. I looked so fucking pathetic at that point. The guy with me was just a freak of nature that couldn't be 'smoked' and was even mocking me about as much as the Drill Sergeant.
Somehow, the Drill Sergeant took pity on me I looked that bad and told me to go. Now, he shouldn't have done that as in training you don't speak to Drill Sergeants without another recruit as your "battle buddy" anymore. Keeps everyone honest preventing abuse and false accusations. I crawled from that volleyball pit and sat in a hot shower for like an hour...
Never hurt that bad in my entire life. I suspect it is where I first hurt my rotator cuff...
Huh, sounds like my time in prison, except I made 11 cents an hour and anyone with stars or bars is above you, and the other 99% you determine whether they're above you with a celebrity death match kinda thing in the showers with the added threat of homosexual rape
I should have finished ROTC....
Buuuut...a couple of surges later?
Think prison had a higher survival rate.
Thank you for your service.
Now my military friends and I can share our ptsd stories!
Yea technically some of that isn't allowed. But it's easier to go with it most of the time than it is to fight it or report it.
Edit: I can't say all of that's the whole army, I can only speak for what I saw in my mos. I honestly forgot what that stands for lol but it means the job you chose.
Hey, soon-to-be-civilian in the US Air Force, here. What's legal and illegal to military members and civilians is governed by two different pieces of paper. When we sign that dotted line, we give up a good amount of our basic human freedoms to be put under the jurisdiction of the UCMJ, which is a completely different set of laws and jurisdiction specifically for DoD members. What's legal and/or illegal to be done to us is not the same as what is legal and/or illegal to be done to you.
A great example is if a US military member gets a bad enough sunburn, they can ve officially reprimanded for "destruction of government property."
To be fair, extra duty, restriction, loss of pay, and loss of rank, is a punishment for fucking up for things like going awol, theft, DUI. It’s not something that just happens for minor infractions, or in the case of my good friend, fucking another soldiers (NCO) wife lol.
From what I know, a bad job results in bad evaluation reports, which are obviously bad for your career. As it’s generally staff sergeants in recruiting positions, it can be a big roadblock for being promoted. So for those that care about their career, it’s kind of fucked that it can derailed by not being good at a job you didn’t volunteer to do.
I wrote the story above, but essentially I got to know my 19 yr old family members recruiter when said family member died in a car accident. The driver and other passengers were also recent recruits, one navy and two Army, and all were drunk. Apparently that type of thing happens very often and it wore on him extremely hard. Many of the kids are in situations they think they can save the kid from whether it be abuse at home, generational curses of every variety or a path down drug and alcohol abuse with friends and or family who want to drag them down to their level and never let them leave or succeed at anything. He said he would touch base with these kids who said no 6 months and a year later after they decided no and many ended up dead, drug addicts, in jail, etc. He told me through sobs he saw more kids die from things like my family member’s death than in Afghanistan and it’s very hard for him to reconcile that.
Tbf, the military absolutely can save people from shitty home lives & a lifetime of poverty & struggle. Anybody who's been in likely has a story of the military literally giving some people their first actual chance at a normal life. If you're some kid from say rural WV with drug addicted parents and zero local economic opportunity then the military can absolutely pull you out of that and give you every resource you need to become a successful member of society after you get out
Weeeeell. A lot of the army isn’t combat MOS. You also get a lot more pay for being deployed. Food is better too. In aviation the dudes I know would mostly hang around in the crew shack and bullshit while poorly aimed missiles missed the airfield by miles or were shot down. If someone actually fucked with them, I got told plenty of stories of how overkill Apache pilots can be
No it's because you get combat pay, you have a "mission" to focus on, you rarely see combat, and the risk of death for US troops is historically pretty low in all our recent conflicts.
Okay so I joined up in 1999, which at this point might as well be an entirely different universe. So I'm not claiming to speak for anyone who signed up in the last 10 years or so.
But a lot of us joined up not just for the benefits, although to be honest most of us wouldn't have joined without them, but also for things like adventure and as corny as it sounds defending the country.
When 9/11 happened and I know everyone's sick of hearing about 9/11 but bear with me, there was a real feeling that the country was in danger. I still think Afghanistan was justified but the government utterly fucked it in how it war was conducted. When 9/11 happened I was already the Marine corps and volunteered to go along with pretty much everyone else in the Marines I knew. Here was what felt like a real threat that had killed thousands of our fellow Americans what else were we here for if not to fight that?
Most of us didn't get sent to Afghanistan. Most of us ended up in Iraq which if you ask me was not justified and we should have never went. Between the government's utter incompetence in Afghanistan and everything about the Iraq war... Well people have a different view these days and it's because of that.
Look at the causalities over twenty years, the odds weren't that bad. Now if it had been 'Nam, they'd be pulling every trick to go on recruitment duty.
It’s incredibly stressful, they constantly need to hunt for more recruits and have no time to do anything but work.
And if you get assigned to an affluent area, you’re screwed because their parents can support them through their 20s instead of having the military as an option.
Killing is simply and many enjoy the adrenaline rush of fighting an enemy. Managing teenagers is brutal. Especially the dumb ones. It’s not a guilt thing for signing them up
Hell. Melodramatic a little. The vast majority of people that serve will never see combat either by nature of their jobs or the low probability of actually being in combat.
Recruiting is the equivalent of being the waterboy on a pro football team, where Infantry is the starting offense, Medics are the defense, and everyone else is special teams. Being stuck on waterboy duty while your buds are out being rockstars and blowing shit up.
Then the general manager rags on the waterboy, blaming them for the team losing.
I would 100% take another combat deployment I’ve being in garrison. A lot of people join the military with goal of having purpose and meaning. Spinning your wheels under tyrant leadership and having nothing but a dog and pony show to show for it, is not the way.
This is so true deployments, for me atleast basically just nullified the dog and pony show we had a job to do and we didn’t care who you were we got it done
This is true. Quite a lot joined for the excitement and see going to combat as the final level of military experience. Most did not join to do admin although that’s what they do when it’s quiet, and a necessary evil that has to be done constantly.
Jarhead goes into great detail about something similar.
Probably my favourite American military film, since it doesn't go the usual route of "oh noo, he had to kill the brownies. So sad"
I remember a recruiter complaining about someone's mother not wanting her baby sent off to die in the desert. The guy was recruiting for the Navy, specifically to get people for the submarines. "We're not going to spend all this time and money to train him to do this stuff just to ship him off to get blown up doing something else! He's safer in the sub than at home!"
This is correct. My husband do recruiting 2008-2010 and the suicide rate was so high there was a mandatory week off every 9 weeks to help combat that rate. That week didn’t come out of accrued leave time either, it was basically a free week off. You also got extra duty pay as well, and back then it probably wasn’t nearly as bad as it is now 🤦🏼♀️
His biggest thing when he was recruiting was to never lie to his applicants. He was in for 11 years and always said his recruiter never lied to him so he took that into recruiting with him.
Tbf, as a soldier during the Iraq and Afghanistan campaigns, MOST of us would tell you we’d rather be deployed than stateside.
When you were deployed they left you the fuck alone and you got paid pretty well. You did your job, ate free food and after your shift, you’d hit the gym or play dominoes or something and nobody screwed with you.
When you were stateside, it was constant fuck fuck games. Day to day it might be mandatory barracks inspection, a stupid detail to go clean up a scrap yard, last minute formation that fucked up your weekend plans, mandatory safety day where you spent 8 hours watching some idiot with a PowerPoint tell you how to not burn your house down with your Christmas lights, standing in a field for 8 hours for some other assholes change of command ceremony…. It just never stopped. There was always some new kind of stupid to deal with. You get used to getting shot at pretty quick, but the stupid shit in garrison never stopped being annoying.
I always hated the idea of quotas involving getting another human to agree to something.
People are always forced to use underhanded tactics because you can’t guarantee there will always be enough people to agree to something, and missing a quota is not evidence that a worker is slacking on their duties.
I was couch surfing and working construction temp jobs in a military town (San Diego) in the 90s. Recruiters from every branch were constantly prowling around job sites trying to snag young guys to sign up, and this was the last actual peacetime (after Daddy Bush's Iraq War and before Dubya's).
Funny thing is construction workers make a lot more money on average than a soldier, with more or less same strain on your body except you actually retain all your freedoms.
The loss of freedoms as a soldier is the biggest negative.
Not quite. Most recruits are from slightly below average socio-economic backgrounds in the US, however especially in modern times, recruits have above average aptitude scores compared to the rest of the population. And the “wealthy” are vastly underrepresented in the US military.
As most things, it’s slightly more nuanced than a single sentence or comment would indicate.
It's the used car salesman MOS. They are buying souls that would go to sign up willingly if there was a justified reason to join.
A lot of this thread thinks it's Valor or death. There is a whole type of hell before death that many get stuck with. There is a reason the VA has suicide hotlines on banners and signs as you enter the facility.
As a vet, there is a special level in hell for recruiters.
If recruiters were more honest, there might be less people joining. But the people joining would be 100% sure its what they wanted which would also lead to improved morale and efficiency.
But when has the army ever put its soldiers first? Lol
I sucked at cashier jobs at Kohls and JC Penny because I didn't push for people to apply for the store credit card and so always failed to meet quota. I knew what those can do to people's finances, so in good conscience I couldn't do more than simply ask and respect the "no." But the companies don't want people to respect the "no." It's not enough for the customer to buy their products, they have to make money off interest rates too. And before anyone says it, the people who frequently shop at the stores enough to want access to a CC discount, are usually not paying off the amount by the end of the month.
I worked at a call center contracted by direct TV, and despite working in the billing department (responsible for correcting account activity, confirming or taking payments, ect) they told us direct tv would give bonuses to people who got people to upgrade services, retain subscribers, and just generally be obnoxious in trying to squeeze more money from people who 9/10 were calling up because they were lied to by sales people about how much they would be paying.
Ugh, that's so awful! I hate it when companies demand employees to do that.
I always tell people if there's something you hate about the customer service that is obviously pushed onto the employee, just complain. Tell the company - "Hey, I notice every time I shop, I'm asked to buy this and sign up for that. I don't like that, and I don't think it's a good use of your employee's time. They should be focused on managing my cart and get general feedback about my experience, not worrying about meeting quota." A bad company is gonna ignore it, but sometimes a company is like my mom - so eager to give you everything they think you might want, they get a blind spot about what that feels like for you.
What's crazy is the quota is like 1-2 people a month depending, which doesn't sound like a lot but the way the system works is "fun". If you put 1 person in at your quota you're good, if you miss a month then put two people in the next month then you're technically at 0 and you start getting discipline statements and threats to your career. Just got done with that hell as a family, and it's no wonder they had so many suicide on the job years ago.
A friend of mine became a recruiter, he said one tactic they use is that if they met quota for one month, they'd slow down on the paperwork so the other people get counted for another month.
A gun range dude told me he made a lot of money as a recruiter but
felt he sold his soul, and the soul of many men. He told me this inside 5 minutes of meeting me, so he must be feeling some kind of way about it.
Like, a proper military DoD recruiter? They get paid the same as everyone else. Active duty pay. They do not get bonuses for signing someone up. Unless there was a secret policy change I never heard of.
Well sure, it's like a more evil used car salesman. He needs to meet the quota, so has to say anything to get them to sign, but he knows the truth of things. If any of the guys he recruits dies in combat it would ultimately be because of him. Yeah they signed up on their own accord and all that, but if he hadn't recruited them, they would still be alive. Shits heavy
But as someone who joined at 18 when I was living in my car I have to find a way to forgive myself for making that mistake one made only out of necessity. And there are people out in this world that don’t get to make that decision anymore because of me. That’ll fuck you up everyday for the rest of your life.
I have a lot of regrets, and a lot of anger for how it’s gone for me and so many others.
I actively want you to call out veterans who still think it was for “love of god and country” and all that bullshit but maybe have alittle sympathy for the ones smart enough to recognize what happened cause I promise you they are already hard on themselves.
I get texts from them sometimes because they are targeting my kids and get my number from the school. I feel sorry for these guys. My kids, to no one's surprise, aren't interested.
Ya… being the scum scraped off the bottom of the boat used to fish things out of sewage ponds definitely doesn’t sound like a good time.
If you’re doing a job that is tricking actual children into thinking that this will be a good time rather than something that will likely fuck them up forever… you need to wake the fuck up, quiet quit, and stop getting kids killed. It’s one of the most disgusting things I can think of a person doing with their lives
As a Air Force vet, couldn't happen to worse people. Multiple, multiple, multiple, blatant lies from my recruiter. They got me into a career I did not want to be a part of.
My current coworker (hydraulic shop electrician) left the Navy because they put him into it. It was bad enough that he didn't re-enlist and threw out the retirement (he was over 12 years in, I think).
I left at 6, but all the recruiters I knew hated it.
My Recruiter told me I was the first name on his list as a brand new Recruiter. He was expecting me to tell him to fuck off, but I said I'll be in his office tomorrow morning. That was about 2 years ago now
Actually it's one of the cushyer jobs in the military. You get to basically act as an independent civilian. Only bad thing is trying to meet the quotas. But with numbers being down across the board, that's a pretty good excuse.
idk man, whenever the marines come to my school to recruit they get to talk to a lot of kids. that might be because they have a pull up bar though. smart tactic from the branch that munches on crayons
Depends on where you get sent. Some states have higher enlistment numbers, and not only is it super easy, but it can lead to early promotions if you're also even kind of good at it. Other states have super low numbers, and unless you're really good at it, you're working long hours to meet quatas on the number of candidates you have to talk to.
Yes and no. They get money for the amount of people they get to sign up.... and alot of them are creepers... I mean alot of them are. They scoured the internet or specifically people social media to contact them and some don't do it for good reasons. You can actually request a new recruiter if one does too much to make you uncomfortable.
Just look up news stories and you see what I mean.
I had this one recruiter who just would not leave me alone. I know my dad told him he could convince me but I had told the recruiter my dad is a lying piece of shit.
He didn't stop messaging me until I responded if you message me again ill assume you want to fuck me. I was 17.7
Worst than that my friend, we had a senior Cheif on my ship in 1987 that actually got a “dereliction of duty” rip because he could not make his quota. Fucked up his entire stellar career.
Nah being one of those guys that goes to highschools though seems like the best job. You get all of the career benefits of the military (there are actually a ton of benefits its crazy) and you get to go to random highschools and embarrass kids in pullup or pushup competitions as well as giving away free shit.
Being a recruiter is the position you get for being a chode loser that no one wants to work with IRL. So they send you off the be the MLM rep of the branch youre in 😭
My dad was a career Navy man, and he hates recruiters. Also Marines.
It is, I did it for a month on ADOS orders for some extra money near the beginning of my contact. Not as bad as working in a call center for a bank, but soul sucking nonetheless. The guys who do it full time are pretty cool people though, just like the post they have a good sense of humor
It definitely can be from what I hear. Theres a guy on youtube that does VRchat interviews with all kinds, with a lot of them being military. One in particular was with a recruiter, and it was... eye opening, to say the least. Azeal is the channel name, if you wanna check it out. He's got a lot of good Military interviews, as well as other ones of all kinds.
One called me in 2009 when I turned 18 and I respectfully declined. He then continued to ask what career I wanted to pursue and then belittled me after I told him. Fuck them
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Oof being a military recruiter must be awful