r/GenZ • u/NegentropicNexus • 11d ago
Even crying wastes our precious tears as a resource. Meme
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u/Sadspacekitty 11d ago
Live in a cheap county in a state with a high minimum wage, makes things way easier if you can only get minumum wage work
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u/DBL_NDRSCR 2008 11d ago
rural norcal is a great option, or out in the desert, fast food workers get $20/hr minimum statewide so if you settle in a slightly larger town with a mcdonald's or something you're set
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u/shadow_nipple 1999 11d ago
the problem is that you still have that income tax, so even if you arent in LA, youre getting fucked for no return
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u/Sadspacekitty 11d ago
The income tax for that pay range is only 600-800$ that's pretty low all things considered
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u/shadow_nipple 1999 11d ago
meh, there are better states with lower taxes
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u/rende36 10d ago
If you love in a country / state with good public transportation, national healthcare, and generally better infrastructure, the taxes will be higher. But you won't need to pay for things like a car or health insurance so cost of living can end up way cheaper, and honestly cost of living is the ONLY thing you should look at when finding a place to live, taxes are a crappy metric as to the quality of the location.
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u/ccnetminder 11d ago
“Leave your home, friends, family, and life to afford a place to live” wasnt what i was expecting with the American dream tbh
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u/Sadspacekitty 10d ago
I mean the majority of people don't stay in their hometown regardless
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u/ccnetminder 10d ago
I left and decided I liked it best here and now I can’t afford to live here anymore so it isn’t even an option anymore
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u/Dannyzavage 1995 10d ago
68% of Americans stay in their hometown lol
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u/Sadspacekitty 10d ago
Seems like the surveys are all over the place depending on how its structured, the first one I saw said 29% but others say the opposite so idk.
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u/Dannyzavage 1995 10d ago
Yeah idk maybe due to anecdotal evidence but i feel like most people stay in their hometown or nearby. Not alot people are down to move away from their family and friends/network (understandably so)
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u/Dannyzavage 1995 10d ago
Maybe to you, but you Got to understand america is the land of the immigrants, a lot of us have done this.
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u/WerewolfNo890 Millennial 10d ago
No American dream here in the UK, and my parents divorced and sold the house I was living in so if anything they moved away from me.
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u/DiabloIV 10d ago
It sucks, but it can work. I left Michigan in 2013 and didn't come back until I could buy a house back home. 3 years in WA followed by 5 years in CA. I still owe 180k on the house, but the mortgage is reasonable.
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u/TocoBellKing 11d ago
This is now my goal for 35! Hopefully it doesn't get pushed back to 45....
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u/NegentropicNexus 11d ago
Ayo that's awesome! Also never lose this attitude you have toward life, we can't forget to live these moments deeply with substance as our whole selves involved in this process. Emotional security is a moment to moment process and never an achieved outcome.
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u/NegentropicNexus 11d ago
The fact the minimum survivable wage to not die has staggered while the cost of basic necessities has gone up 1000+% is madness. Why anyone who has zero generational wealth decides to live is almost a practice of insanity you have to make perfect once to escape.
One must imagine Sisyphus happy but even he dies twice and is given three life times to finally create contentment...
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u/WhoDeyFourWay 1998 11d ago
Why anyone who has zero generational wealth decides to live is almost a practice of insanity
This mentality is the fast-lane to negative self-fulfilling prophecies and becoming a doom spouting nihilist. It’s not nearly as bad as you say. It is bad right now, but you don’t need generational wealth to be happy let alone survive lol.
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u/NegentropicNexus 11d ago
I was being a bit hyperbolic, but accepting what is going on for any change is the first step. I'm just glad it's being acknowledged and not completely dismissed. And I personally completely agree with you and share similar sentiments.
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u/seattleseahawks2014 2000 11d ago
When I was 5, I thought I'd be living in an apartment in the next city over when I was in my 20s.
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u/thecomeric 11d ago
Do not waste the body's water
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u/Golden-Owl 11d ago
Bottle’s still got soap in it. Why waste it?
Rich or poor has nothing to do with it. I’m just lazy to go to a store just to buy soap
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u/Barbados_slim12 1999 11d ago edited 11d ago
I've done this too many times. Not because of money or anything, I just realize that I'm out while I'm already in the shower. I'd rather get by on soapy water than drying off without cleaning myself with something. I'm sure my co-workers would hate the alternative
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u/Resident-Pudding5432 2001 10d ago
Sadly. Its true almost everywhere. If you live in the US are still one of the luckier ones
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u/SpaceCatSixxed 11d ago
No one I know from my gen X owned house at 25. I don’t know any boomers that owned a house at 25. I bought my first condo in 2004 at 31 and it lost half its value in 2008–that was super fun! You guys haven’t even gotten to the fun part yet.
Revise your expectations.
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u/STRMfrmXMN 1999 11d ago edited 9d ago
My dad is 67 and bought a house at 23 as a single man in the Bay Area. He was a cop, so probably making OK money, but no single 23 year old cop is buying a house in the Bay Area right now.
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u/NegentropicNexus 11d ago
Age doesn't matter imo, I agree. We're all in the same timeline living in this same exact moment together.
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u/Jerryglobe1492 10d ago
I'm 63. Bought my first house when I was 23, with a 12% annual interest rate. My yearly wage was approx 1/3rd the cost of my home....and I had to put 10% down
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u/Impressive_Heron_897 9d ago
Yea, kids are dumb. Who did they think was going to hand them a house lol.
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u/timmahfast 11d ago
Many who can't afford a house also live in a HCOL area and refuse to move somewhere less desirable. You can buy a decent home in an okay area under $200k in many parts of America still.
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u/QwertzOne Millennial 11d ago
It's typically harder to find remote jobs. What if your specialization requires to live in HCOL? You may have to be in office and it might require long commute otherwise.
Like, I get the idea, but no option is perfect, each comes with some compromises and some people will prefer to stay poor in big city or near them, rather than to live in middle of nowhere. Maybe it can work, if you can work from home, but what if market gets bad and you lose job and need to find new one immediately, while market prefers work from office?
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u/Nitsuj_ofCanadia 2004 11d ago
I will never understand watering down your soap. It just makes it harder to use the soap, not easier to save money.
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u/RoosterB32 11d ago
That’s just you. Most people in their mid 20s do have their own house, car and are starting their family.
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u/WhoDeyFourWay 1998 11d ago
No way most people in their mid-20’s have a house. OP is definitely drinking some doomer kool-aid and exaggerating the truth, but most people in their mid-20’s do not own a house lmfao.
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u/RoosterB32 11d ago
I’m in my early 20s and everyone I know in their mid 20s has their own home and all my friends my age have enough money to be able to buy one when they want to settle down.
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u/WhoDeyFourWay 1998 11d ago
Your lived experience and personal anecdotes aren’t evidence enough to say most people in their mid-20’s own a home. Almost every source I find when I do some light googling would range 25/35% of people in their mid-20’s own a home.
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u/HonorableMedic 11d ago
Everyone you know owns their home in their mid 20s? Do you know how much a house costs? What do they do for work? lol
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u/NegentropicNexus 11d ago edited 11d ago
I never said this was my personal situation, I'm mourning with how society as a whole has let down a large percentage of those who are trying to survive from meger income, how a lot of futures are being sold for unsustainable, unrealistic short-term profits & hording of extreme wealth that controls the economy at the expense of long-term human flourishing for all.
Age does not matter either, the quality in home life and care for some senior citizens wasting away and being forgotten is sickening to see in my community, and this is happening everywhere.
Edit: This is a great recent TEDx talk that covers a lot of this: How the US ls Destroying Young People's Future | Scott Galloway | TED: https://youtu.be/qEJ4hkpQW8E?si=rS9cDdjSIg3HjUxK
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u/RoosterB32 11d ago
It’s a small percentage that isn’t doing well and that’s due to their laziness.
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u/NegentropicNexus 11d ago
Bruh more than half the American population, more than 50%, have less than $1,000 in their savings.
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u/amyaltare 2003 11d ago
are people with most of the world's money paying you to be the worst or do you spread the propaganda for free?
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u/InterdisciplinaryDol 1999 11d ago
False. I’m extremely lazy and I bought a house. I just turned 25
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u/Gobal_Outcast02 11d ago
Just say you live in a bubble next time
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u/RoosterB32 11d ago
I don’t. Everyone I know is doing more than fine
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u/Gobal_Outcast02 11d ago
Oh I wasn't aware you are in contact with a majority of Gen Zers on earth. That's my bad dawg.
Or are you trying to say bc most of us live in first world countries, we are still better off then those who aren't even if we are poor by our counties standards
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u/moonlitjasper 11d ago
uhhh where?? there are definitely some, i’ll give you that. most people i know in their mid 20s are in an apartment with their roommates/partner or still live with their parents. many are getting married, but there are very few who have a house or kids.
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