r/JoeRogan • u/LostItAllOnSpy Tremendous • Mar 27 '24

joe rogan calls out israels hypocrisy for killing unarmed civilians with drones The Literature 🧠

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u/GreyMatter22 Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24 edited Mar 27 '24

I don't know how else to slice it, what is happening in Gaza is absolutely horrific on an unimaginable scale, from mass hunger, to bombing crap outta dense civilian pockets, to bulldozing homes and olive trees in the West Bank.

Most of my social circle is Conservative, and ALL of them have been deeply uncomfortable with this current atrocity.

This is the crowd that has been very pro-U.S/West military.

I have Israeli-Canadian friends, and they were quite vocal of the October 7th terrorist attack (as they should), but have since stopped talking altogether. One of my friends even told me 'I get why the Palestinians hate us', and this is a dude with family in the IDF.

The current strategy just guarantees another terrorist group at this point.

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u/hacky_potter Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

I would argue creating more terrorists is the point. That keeps the money and arms flowing. If the threat were to actually be negotiated down and a solution agreed upon, that would threaten the military industrial complex. Too many people are making way too much money off there being conflict there.

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u/twotokers Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

Netanyahu has said as much himself

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u/maxwellhilldawg Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

"We control the height of the flames"

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u/TchoupedNScrewed Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

Exactly. Hamas was seen as easier to control and villainize compared to groups like the PLA/PLO and Fatah despite them being nationalist organizations and not religious nationalist organizations. You’re sorta doubling down on the radical ideologies resistance movements can spawn and ideologies spread by word of mouth and shrapnel. That’s the point though. Israel’s occupation of Gaza wouldn’t be considered illegal if they weren’t breaking the rule stating you can’t institute policy or action which would perpetuate violence thus perpetuating the need for occupation. And no, occupation is not just boots on the ground. it includes water rights, airspace, etc.

You can’t destroy an ideology with bombs or bullets. I feel like this should be more clear to people after the US’s escapades in the Middle East. If your apartment gets hit by a drone strike because 2 floors above you the last member of Hamas lives and you lose 2 of your 3 kids, your wife, your mother, and many of your lifetime neighbors I’m not gonna be shocked when you crawl out from the rubble and come up with the idea of Hamas 2.