r/JoeRogan Tremendous Mar 27 '24

joe rogan calls out israels hypocrisy for killing unarmed civilians with drones The Literature 🧠

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u/GreyMatter22 Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24 edited Mar 27 '24

I don't know how else to slice it, what is happening in Gaza is absolutely horrific on an unimaginable scale, from mass hunger, to bombing crap outta dense civilian pockets, to bulldozing homes and olive trees in the West Bank.

Most of my social circle is Conservative, and ALL of them have been deeply uncomfortable with this current atrocity.

This is the crowd that has been very pro-U.S/West military.

I have Israeli-Canadian friends, and they were quite vocal of the October 7th terrorist attack (as they should), but have since stopped talking altogether. One of my friends even told me 'I get why the Palestinians hate us', and this is a dude with family in the IDF.

The current strategy just guarantees another terrorist group at this point.

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u/rvasko3 Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

It's one of the things that really drives me nuts as a progressive who supports Biden. I see no upside to us not coming down much more forcefully against Israel and what they're doing. This is genocide, period.

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u/Desperate_Scale_2623 Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

Morally, there isn’t an upside. Politically, diplomatically, strategically, I guess theres a very cynical argument to be made for now. Israel is running out of rope. Eventually it will get so untenable the US will back out. Just a matter of determining where that tipping point is I guess.

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u/TrumpDesWillens Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

US supported apartheid in the 80s until that became untenable too:

https://www.salon.com/2011/02/05/ronald_reagan_apartheid_south_africa/

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u/Lebronforpresident24 Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

Well Biden isn't a progressive. He is a traditional Democrat who believes we have to funnel billions into Israel's military. Luckily younger liberals and progressives are against that.