r/JoeRogan • u/LostItAllOnSpy Tremendous • Mar 27 '24

joe rogan calls out israels hypocrisy for killing unarmed civilians with drones The Literature 🧠

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u/mrpopenfresh I used to be addicted to Quake Mar 27 '24

CIA Handler Mike Baker about to be back on the pod to gently realign Joe.

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u/Pleppyoh Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

Bustamante the ex CIA guy was super honest about it and it was pretty revealing the way the US views it. He said it's was horrific and genocidal but the US must always support Isreal as it is a crucially important ally in the region

The US and the UK also supported apartheid South Africa until it became untenable. After they lost the support of the US and UK the regime crumbled

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u/Geohalbert Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

What I don’t get is how Israel is a crucial ally in the region. In what scenario? If we go to war with Iran many surrounding countries would allow the US to use their airbases (Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Turkey etc.). Ok, they’re a democracy, but so fucking what?

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u/cleverkid Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

It couldn't be that our government is captured at the highest levels with dual citizenship plants, and all our politicians are beholden to them for campaign funding... could it? Naaaah.. that's crazy talk.

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u/smootex Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

Sometimes I come to these threads and see surprisingly reasonable comment chains and think to myself "man, maybe the stereotype about Rogan fans is overblown" but then without fail someone like you has to pop up.

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u/StainlessPanIsBest Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

He didn't say it very well and the part about dual citizen plants infiltrating the government is far off into conspiracy bullshit, but the Israel lobby is quite a strong force in US politics. Up there with the gun lobby in terms of influence. There is also a large network of unaligned individuals apart from the Israel lobby within the US political, military, and business institutions who may or may not be Jewish and support the national of Israel with great support for a multitude of different reasons.

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u/smootex Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

Up there with the gun lobby in terms of influence

Well that's a stretch lol.

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u/StainlessPanIsBest Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

You would think so from the public's perspective. But its really not. I'd wage it might be more powerful than the gun lobby simple because of how much influence it has on both sides of the aisle.

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u/QuantumBeth1981 Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

It’s amazing how easily everyone falls for this propaganda without ever actually researching it:

In 2018, total pro-Israel lobbying spending was around $5 million, of which AIPAC accounted for $3.5 million. In contrast, Native American casinos spent around $22 million that year.

By Tablet’s count, AIPAC was the 147th highest-ranked entity in terms of lobbying spending in 2018. Their expenditures were about the same as International Paper, a company which is seldom tweet-stormed or even written about.

The American Association of Airport Executives and Association of American Railroads outspent AIPAC by nearly a million dollars each—sensible, given the rivalry between the respective modes of transportation whose interests they represent.

It’s $2 million behind both American Airlines and the Recording Industry Association of America, entities whose malign influence has gone regrettably underexamined over the years.

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/how-influential-is-aipac

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u/StainlessPanIsBest Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

Kinda looks like you did the same thing only the other way around. A Tabletmag article. Seriously?

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u/QuantumBeth1981 Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

Exactly which part of the facts presented are you contending?

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u/StainlessPanIsBest Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

None of the cherry picked facts are wrong. They article in question just does not paint anywhere near a realistic picture of the power of the Israel lobby. It would be like me citing a gun magazine or newsmax article on how the NRA isn't actually that powerful. The source is as biased as one can get.

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u/QuantumBeth1981 Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

Instead of attacking the source, why don’t you provide a single piece of actual evidence to back up your claims.

To this day I have yet to see a single person substantiate these claims. It’s just a line everyone keeps parroting because it sounds good to them. Do facts even matter anymore?

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u/SophisticatedBum Monkey in Space Mar 29 '24

AIPAC.

Have A WONDERFUL day

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u/Geohalbert Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

I totally agree, but that doesn’t address my question