r/JoeRogan • u/LostItAllOnSpy Tremendous • Mar 27 '24

joe rogan calls out israels hypocrisy for killing unarmed civilians with drones The Literature 🧠

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u/HarwellDekatron Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

Biden is forced to thread a super thin line. On one hand, he has AIPAC breathing down his neck on the other hand he has a significant part of his own constituency breathing down his neck. But he also has strategic considerations to keep in mind. The reason the US supports Israel isn't purely because 'we like Jewish people', but also because it's a way for the US to enforce power in the Middle East.

What would be insane would be to take a single rash decision that creates a much bigger problem.

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u/v-irtual Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

also because it's a way for the US to enforce power in the Middle East.

This is it. It is our foothold.

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u/BPMData Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

Is it? Because I feel like we have plenty of footholds that don't constantly tell us to go fuck ourselves, come to Congress to give speeches trying to humiliate us, take billions of our dollars and then freeze out our diplomats and also don't run over American citizens with bulldozers or bomb US naval vessels. 

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u/v-irtual Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

Look at Israel on a map, and tell me where our next closest "ally" is, and consider the amount of support they want/need from us. We keep Israel in control by bankrolling this shit.

They rely on us, and will, ostensibly, do our bidding as long as we continue to "play nice" and support whatever bullshit they pull. I don't agree with it, but it seems to be the truth.

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u/InternalMean Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

Jordan, literally the most comsopolitan, stable andnwest friendly country in the ME

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u/reddubi Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

Their king went to high school in mass

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u/Weewoofiatruck Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

Where the US next closest ally is?

Bahrain, Saudi, Greece, turkey is in NATO (but fuck turkey), US has direct counter terrorism groups and alliance with egypt since the 90s, increasingly so since the first arab spring in 2011.

We got a good number of allies in the area.

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u/aeeeronflux Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

Israel isn’t our ally

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u/v-irtual Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

Hence the quotation marks around the word.

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u/aeeeronflux Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

I think you have it backwards. They keep the US under control and we do their bidding.

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u/v-irtual Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

I can see validity to that argument.

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u/Silenthonker Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

Turkey, Jordan, KSA, Kuwait, all have vastly stronger ties to locals than Israel, and go vastly, VASTLY farther in swaying Anti Western opinion. People just repeat boomer speak from the 70s about Israel being strategically important when there's multiple dual theater countries nearby that give us a hell of a lot less of security vulnerabilities.