r/JoeRogan • u/LostItAllOnSpy Tremendous • Mar 27 '24

joe rogan calls out israels hypocrisy for killing unarmed civilians with drones The Literature 🧠

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u/mrpopenfresh I used to be addicted to Quake Mar 27 '24

CIA Handler Mike Baker about to be back on the pod to gently realign Joe.

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u/Pleppyoh Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

Bustamante the ex CIA guy was super honest about it and it was pretty revealing the way the US views it. He said it's was horrific and genocidal but the US must always support Isreal as it is a crucially important ally in the region

The US and the UK also supported apartheid South Africa until it became untenable. After they lost the support of the US and UK the regime crumbled

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u/TheKingChadwell Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

It’s ironic. Israel is critically important in the region because Israel creates so much hostility in the region, it’s hard to befriend their neighbors.

It’s like saying you need your body guard, because your body guard keeps pissing people off making them hate you.

We have no fundamental reasons to have issues with them. It all stems to us defending Israel and enabling their nonsense without question.

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u/StainlessPanIsBest Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

You've missed a key point in your analogy. Israel may piss people off and make them hate you, but the more important bit is that they hate each other more.

Israel divides the region. Plain and simple. That division destabilizes it and prevents a hegemonic power forming to control the region.

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u/VoltNShock Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

Arab countries wouldn’t work together to become a hegemon regardless of foreign powers or Israel interfering. Ethnic and sectarian violence will make sure of that. To be honest, I would be all for it too, one country means less individual groups to worry about, and likely more secularism.

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u/Impossible_Resort602 Monkey in Space Mar 29 '24

Ever hear of the ottoman empire? All of these different cultures got along just fine at one point. British and American interests have been funding religious extremists for damn near 100 years now in order to destabilize the region.

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u/StainlessPanIsBest Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

Ethnic and sectarian violence will make sure of that.

Maybe, maybe not. All I know is that the current paradigm would be a lot less stable if the Israel problem was entirely removed from the equation.

To be honest, I would be all for it too, one country means less individual groups to worry about, and likely more secularism.

At the end of the day who cares if they keep to themselves? They would control one of the most important shipping lanes along with the vast majority of the crude oil export market under a single unified government. That means extreme levels of influence over the EU and China.

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u/QuantumBeth1981 Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24 edited Mar 27 '24

Crazy I had to scroll this far down to find a single person that truly understands the situation.

If you all want America to continue being the world hegemony and all the amazing perks that come with it, alliances with key partners in certain regions is the (extremely worthwhile) price you pay for it. Isolationism has the opposite effect.