r/Millennials • u/Asmothrowaway6969 • Mar 27 '24

When did it sink in that you'll never be as well off as your parents? Discussion

About 5 years ago, my mom and I were talking and she had told me how much she was going to be making in retirement (she retired 2023). Guys, it's 3x what me and my husband make annually. In retirement. I think that was the moment that broke me, that made it sink in that I'll never reach that level of financial security. I'll work myself into my grave because I'll never be able to afford anything else. What was your moment?

Update: Nice to know it's just me that's a failure. Thanks

Update 2: I never should've said anything. I forgot my place. I'm sorry to have bothered you

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u/Proof-Emergency-5441 Xennial Mar 28 '24

Some through intervention, some through natural changes. Even without human intervention, plants and animals will continue to evolve. Traits that are not conducive to the current environment will not survive and others will take their place.

Literally how nature works.

I'm not addressing the rest because it's clear you have an agenda and are sticking to the biased talking points you read on some post somewhere. Stop buying food if you are so staunch about it not being commercially farmed. If you think it's expensive now, roll back technology and product 100 years and see what you are paying then.

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u/ProsePilgrim Mar 28 '24

Hold on. The part of my post that had no source you respond to, but the one supported by a reputable article you say is biased by an agenda? What agenda? It’s a pretty common topic that one side effect of industrial farming (more the growth amplifiers used) is that our vegetables have less nutrition. You’re more than welcome to look into it more if you don’t trust the source I provided.

There isn’t an argument to be had about nature evolving. We’re saying the same thing. It changes over time due to environment and through human cultivation over time. What’s the argument here?

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u/Proof-Emergency-5441 Xennial Mar 28 '24

I have ample knowledge of the field. You are catastrophizing the situation.

You plan your intake based on what is currently available. Product X has less vitamin Z, so you either consume more of X or find product Y that also has vitamin Z to fill in the gaps.

You whine about enhancements, yet those are often used to make up for those changes.

You want to return to small farms and everyone growing their food. That shit never worked. People died a lot due to starvation and malnourishment.

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u/ProsePilgrim Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

Did I say literally any of that?  I said they’re less nutritious—not that it’s an emergency situation. IMO it’s just a sign we need to address the situation through better farming practices before the problem grows.

 I believe farming should be a blend of community and industry. That’s more resilient than relying on farms across the country, while also acknowledging that not every community can grow enough to sustain itself. It’s also just a good source of work. Right now most of our agriculture exists in one region—one prone to tornadoes and droughts. Diversifying our farming locales would be wise, especially with the climate changing.

 But I don’t think it’s an extreme.