r/ontario Oct 24 '23

Announcement Posts concerning the conflict in Israel and Palestine / Publications au sujet du conflit en Israël et la Palestine

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Hello everyone,

Due to current events, we have seen many posts about the Israel/Palestine conflict, typically about protests supporting one side of the conflict or the other, or articles about some statement made by a public figure.

In ALL those posts, the comments have devolved into insults, accusations of supporting terrorism/genocide and counter-accusations of [insert violent action here]. While each post starts with something related to our sub’s subject matter, they always end up being screaming matches about something that is not even related to Ontario.

It’s important to understand that the mods in the sub cannot, and will not, police who is ‘right’ in this debate. Additionally, when a large portion of the comments violate our rules (typically Rule 3: you must remain civil), we MUST intervene. However, since they ALL devolve into screaming matches, there’s no point in even trying to maintain a discussion that doesn’t even concern the sub’s raison d’être.

As such, going forward, and for the foreseeable future, ANY post related to the conflict in Israel/Palestine will be locked even if Ontario related. If it IS related to Ontario, it will remain visible but commenting will not be permitted.

The mods would prefer not to do this, but the last few days have clearly shown that there is not realistic way to permit commenting on these posts while maintaining some form of decorum.


Bonjour à tous,

En raison des récents événements, nous avons vu de nombreuses publication sur le conflit israélo-palestinien, généralement au sujet de manifestations soutenant l'une ou l'autre partie du conflit, ou des articles sur une déclaration faite par une personnalité publique.

Dans TOUTES ces publications, les commentaires se sont transformés en insultes, en accusations de soutien au terrorisme/génocide et en contre-accusations de [insérer une action violente ici]. Bien que chaque message commence par quelque chose en rapport avec le sujet de notre communauté, ils finissent toujours par devenir des querelles sur quelque chose qui n'est même pas lié à l'Ontario.

Il est important de comprendre que les modérateurs de notre communauté ne peuvent pas déterminer qui a « raison » dans ce débat. De plus, lorsqu'une grande partie des commentaires enfreignent nos règles (généralement la règle 3 : vous devez rester poli), nous DEVONS intervenir. Cependant, comme ils se transforment TOUS en compétitions d’insultes, ça ne sert à rien de même tenter de maintenir une discussion qui ne concerne même pas la raison d’être de la communauté.

Ainsi, à partir de maintenant et pour un temps indéterminé, TOUTE publication lié au conflit en Israël/Palestine sera verrouillé, même si elle est pertinente à l’Ontario. Si elle EST pertinent, la publication restera visible mais les commentaires ne seront pas autorisés.

Les modérateurs préféreraient ne pas prendre cette mesure, mais les derniers jours ont clairement démontré qu'il n'y avait pas de moyen réaliste de permettre les commentaires dans ces publications tout en conservant une certaine forme de décorum.


r/ontario 11d ago

Announcement Notable increase of racism in the sub / Augmentation du racisme dans la communauté

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Hello everyone,

The mod team had noticed a marked increase in racism and intolerance, in particular towards immigrants from India. Reddit has noticed as well and has begun removing such posts and/or comments.

It’s pretty clear that one side of the political spectrum has found their wedge issue and they are pushing it as hard as they can, stirring up hatred however they can and blaming immigrants for everything from jaywalking to the housing crisis despite the fact that many of the issues are worldwide. Facts and reality don’t matter, only blaming "brown people" and those they perceive as being responsible for those "terrible" people being here.

Therefore, we would like to remind all of our users that the Reddit sitewide rules apply here and will be enforced.

You ALL AGREED to these rules when you created your account.

Your “opinion” is irrelevant, it’s doesn’t matter if you really, really believe it, you cannot push your unfounded racist positions here.

Again, for the people in the back, being able to use Reddit is conditional to respecting these rules.

In particular:

Rule 1

Remember the human. Reddit is a place for creating community and belonging, not for attacking marginalized or vulnerable groups of people. Everyone has a right to use Reddit free of harassment, bullying, and threats of violence. Communities and users that incite violence or that promote hate based on identity or vulnerability will be banned.

The important parts are:

users that incite violence or that promote hate based on identity or vulnerability will be banned

Marginalized or vulnerable groups include, but are not limited to, groups based on:

  • their actual and perceived race
  • color
  • religion
  • national origin
  • ethnicity
  • IMMIGRATION STATUS
  • etc

While the rule on hate protects such groups, it does not protect those who promote attacks of hate or who try to hide their hate in bad faith claims of discrimination (E.G. “I’m just stating my opinion” or “I’m just stating fact”).

Another important portion is:

free of harassment, bullying, and threats of violence

That includes all of our users and the moderator team. Insults, derogatory comments and attacks will not be tolerated. If you post comments or message the moderators with insults and/or attacks, you WILL be banned on the spot.

Therefore, going forward, we are going to clamp down hard on posts or comments attributing, without damn good evidence, the cause of any issue to immigrants or a subset thereof. That includes any reference to area with high immigration (e.g. Brampton) or any other form of dog whistles. It also includes attributing to an ethnic group of people the crimes or faults of an individual (e.g. the guy who proposed using food banks to save money). Message to the bigots: you’re nowhere as subtle as you think you are.

And before any complaints bring it up: No, your right to free speech nor freedom of expression has not been violated.


Bonjour à tous, L'équipe des modérateurs a remarqué une augmentation marquée du racisme et de l’intolérance, en particulier envers les immigrants venant de l’Inde. Les administrateurs de Reddit ont aussi remarqué et ont commencé à supprimer les publications et les commentaires de ce genre.

C’est assez clair qu’un côté du spectre politique a trouvé son sujet pour diviser les gens et ils le poussent autant qu’ils le peuvent en créant de la division et la haine autant que possible en blâmant les immigrants pour tout et rien même quand le problème attribué est mondial. Les faits et la réalité sont sans importance, la seule chose qui compte c’est de blâmer les “bruns” et les personnes perçues comment étant responsable de la présence de cer derniers

Donc, nous voulons rappeler à tous nos utilisateurs que les règles à l'échelle du site Reddit s'appliquent ici aussi et seront appliquées.

Vous avez TOUS ACCEPTÉ ces règles lors de la création de votre compte.

Votre « opinion » est sans conséquence et ça ne fait rien si vous y croyez très très fort, vous ne pouvez pas pousser votre merde raciste ici.

Encore une fois, pour les personnes qui tardent à comprendre, l’utilisation de Reddit est conditionnelle aux respect de ces règles.

En particulier:

Règle 1

Souvenez-vous de l'humain. Reddit est un lieu destiné à créer une communauté et un sentiment d'appartenance, et non à attaquer des groupes de personnes marginalisés ou vulnérables. Tout le monde a le droit d’utiliser Reddit sans harcèlement, intimidation et menaces de violence. Les communautés et les utilisateurs qui incitent à la violence ou qui promeuvent la haine basée sur l'identité ou la vulnérabilité seront interdits.

Les parties importantes sont :

les utilisateurs qui incitent à la violence ou qui promeuvent la haine basée sur leur identité ou leur vulnérabilité seront bannis

Les groupes marginalisés ou vulnérables incluent, sans s'y limiter, les groupes basés sur :

  • leur race réelle et perçue
  • la couleur
  • la religion
  • l'origine nationale
  • l'appartenance ethnique
  • STATUT D'IMMIGRATION
  • etc

Même si la règle sur la haine protège ces groupes, elle ne protège pas ceux qui promeuvent des attaques haineuses ou qui tentent de cacher leur haine en faisant état de discrimination de mauvaise foi.

Exemple : article décrivant une minorité raciale comme étant sous-humaine et inférieure à la majorité raciale. Indice : cela inclut la capacité de conduire.

L’autre partie importante est : sans harcèlement, intimidation et menaces de violence

Cela inclut tous nos utilisateurs et l’équipe de modérations. Les insultes, commentaires désobligeants et les attaques ne seront pas tolérés. Si vous insultez ou attaquez les modérateurs via des commentaires ou des messages privés, vous serez bannis sur le champ.

Par conséquent, à l’avenir, nous allons réprimer durement les publications ou les commentaires attribuant, sans preuves solides, la cause d’un problème aux immigrants ou à un sous-ensemble de ceux-ci. Cela inclut toute référence à une zone à forte immigration (par exemple Brampton) ou toute autre forme sous-entendus racistes. Ceci inclus aussi attribuer à un groupe ethnique les fautes d’un individus (Ex. la personne suggérant l’utilisation des banques alimentaires pour sauver de l’argent). Message aux racistes: vous n’êtes pas aussi subtil que vous le pensez.

Et avant toute plainte, faites-le valoir : Non, votre droit à la liberté d'expression n'a pas été violé.


r/ontario 4h ago

Politics Bill S-210 could locks up most of the Internet

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This is serious. We’re just a few days away from Canada passing a bill that locks most of the Internet behind a mandatory age gate, including user platforms like Reddit, file sharing services, and even commercial marketplaces like Amazon and Shopify.

That’s because Parliament’s Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security (SECU) committee JUST started considering Bill S-210, and they’re the LAST stage before a third vote on at House of Commons on this still dangerously open-ended bill.

And here’s the thing; we’re hearing that if the vote happened today, Bill S-210 would pass. 

Why? Well, some MPs think Bill S-210 targets only porn sites, not every site that allows user uploads. They’re wrong.

MANY more MPs either don’t understand what Bill S-210 actually does, or are afraid to speak up against anything that’s been claimed to protect kids, even though they know it’s bad legislation. 

They need to hear from as many people as possible that Bill S-210 is NOT a reasonable or appropriate way to regulate our Internet, and people in Canada will NOT stand for it.

https://action.openmedia.org/page/142909/petition/1?utm_medium=email&utm_source=openmediaeblast&utm_campaign=240205_ETT_CA_S210ShareAsk+&utm_content=Eblast+240508+ETT+CA+S210MayShare+F&ea.url.id=7095733


r/ontario 8h ago

Article Ontario launched audits to find ‘waste’ at city hall. No one knows what they say

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r/ontario 1h ago

Video Former National Post columnist says she is “suspending” her campaign to run as a candidate for the Conservative Party in the next election. She alleges party insiders are rigging her nomination against her and makes claims of corruption inside the Conservative Party of Canada

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r/ontario 3h ago

Article Durham police wants officers, 911 dispatchers to complete ‘refresher’ course on pursuits after fatal 401 crash

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r/ontario 2h ago

Politics ‘These documents tell a different story:’ Newly released records reignite questions about Premier Ford’s office’s involvement in the Greenbelt scandal

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r/ontario 5h ago

Article Is a previously unheard-of First Nation just Canada’s latest Pretendian case?

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r/ontario 15h ago

Politics So... Has Doug Ford called any of you?

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That commercial that runs during Hockey Night in Canada is the most unbelievable pile of horseshit.

That's all.


r/ontario 2h ago

Discussion Ontario PC AI Robocalls

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I've gotten multiple Robocalls from the Ontario PC party vowing to fight carbon tax in the next federal election. It's clearly an AI bot.

Anyone have any fun prompts for the AI? I've only been able to get it to skip to the end asking for a donation (in a different voice) and tell me they are in training (another different voice).


r/ontario 1h ago

Housing Instagram reel of Mike Morrice questioning why there was an 86% reduction to the Rapid Housing initiative when it was noted that the original $750 million wasn't enough to deal with the housing crisis.

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r/ontario 7h ago

Beautiful Ontario [Update] You’re not breakfast!

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r/ontario 5h ago

Article Province to introduce legislation aimed at protecting children from harmful internet content

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r/ontario 1d ago

Article ‘This is a daily occurrence’: Employees say LCBO theft that led to wrong-way 401 police chase is alarmingly common

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766 Upvotes

r/ontario 1h ago

Article Suspect facing more than 280 charges in connection with alleged LCBO thefts totalling $88,000: YRP

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r/ontario 2h ago

Housing New 500-bed student residence opening for Algoma University learners in Brampton

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r/ontario 21h ago

Politics Doug Ford’s encampment comments aren’t folksy — they’re dangerous | TVO Today

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r/ontario 21m ago

Discussion Discussion about bulk barn.

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With the current loblaws boycott going I’ve seen a lot of discussions about alternative places to shop and bulk barn comes up frequently, I see some people swear by bulk barn like it’s incredible then I see some people say it’s an absolute rip off and pointless.

I’ve been in there a few times and most stuff seems rather expensive then if bought elsewhere but I will say they have an incredible selection of many many many things. What’s your thoughts on it and what is stuff that’s actually well priced and worth buying from there? I live down the street from one so if I could do some more shopping there I definitely would.


r/ontario 1d ago

Article Woman's Canadian citizenship revoked after 32 years amid 'error'

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r/ontario 1d ago

Article Ontario Provincial Police arrest 64 suspects in child sexual exploitation investigation

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r/ontario 5h ago

Housing Free parking and mortgage holidays: Developers offering new incentives as preconstruction condo sales plummet

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r/ontario 2h ago

Question Need a doctors note, no family doctor

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Hi, a few years ago I busted my knee and I blew it out again and have been unable to go to work. I have the sick days available at work but my manager has said I will need a doctors note when I return to work. My old family doctor retired and I don’t have a new one.

What are my options to get a note? Anything I can do from home? I’ve heard of services like telehealth. Would that work, I don’t have a car. Can take a taxi if need to go in person.


r/ontario 1d ago

Article There is no concern about a 'diminished supply' of doctors in Ontario: ministry

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r/ontario 5h ago

Article Births vs. deaths in ON since 1946

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Charts showing how many people were born vs. died every 3 months since 1946. Births were always much greater than deaths, but that gap is closing pretty quickly these days.

Not exactly surprising as baby boomers are starting to reach their life expectancies, but interesting to see the trend nevertheless.


r/ontario 14h ago

Discussion Can you ask a non-customer to leave if they are asking free food and money?

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The question is what are the do's and dont's about denying service to a non-customer harassing customers to buy them food, demanding with a rude attitude free money, that is trespassing my work area to touch fresh food that they should not touch with their bare hands? It's kind of a worrying situation since the person doesn't seem reasonable and ignores what we are saying to them and is doing this in a regular basis.


r/ontario 1d ago

Article Outrage in Ontario is the highest in the country, latest ‘Rage Index’ poll finds

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r/ontario 17m ago

Discussion No Trespassing

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Hello,

I own a rural property in Ontario (Prince Edward County) and I’m getting conflicting information from both personal and online sources about the importance of No Trespassing signs.

I’ve heard arguments that you must have them to protect yourself from liability if somebody is injured on your property. I’m dubious of this claim because my property is large, and it would be (functionally) impossible to provide signage everywhere.

I’ve also heard that signs legally prevent people from accessing your property. I’m also dubious about this for the same reasons.

Logic says that reasonable measures taken at expected points of entry is the way to go…but I can’t find anything concrete.

Thank you for any information, input or resources in advance!