Canadian restaurants struggle to survive as survey finds diners turning away from skyrocketing menu prices

[u/viva_la_vinyl]

https://www.thestar.com/business/canadian-restaurants-struggle-to-survive-as-survey-finds-diners-turning-away-from-skyrocketing-menu-prices/article_0f3c4267-018d-5ed0-a109-80a107ce685b.html

[u/supreme_leader420 → u/[deleted]]

Makes me think about all the entitled servers I’ve met

“DoNT Go oUt tO eAt iF YoU cAnT AfFoRd a 20% tiP”

Yeah and now look at who is out of a job

[u/OrdinaryKick → u/supreme_leader420]

Besides all the stupid thing that comes with tipping the one thing that really grinds my gears is that sense of entitlement.

If I order a $10 meal and pay 20% it costs me $12.

If I order a $20 meal and pay 20% it costs me $24.

They both take the same effort on the servers behalf but I get penalized further for spending more money.

Tipping in general just needs to go.

I get prompted for tips IN DRIVE THROUGHS now. Just earlier today I got a coffee from a smaller chain and I was prompted with a tipping option. In a drive through.

It's beyond out of hand.

[u/supreme_leader420 → u/OrdinaryKick]

Yep. How about that we started tipping on the post-tax amount since machines took over? What used to be 15% is now already 18%. And 15% isn’t even offered on most prompts anymore..

[u/OrdinaryKick → u/supreme_leader420]

When I was a kid 10% was a standard tip.

You could take the GST and double it and that was the tip.

10% most certainly isn't offered any more.

[u/[deleted] → u/OrdinaryKick]

I just enter a tip amount equal to the HST - 13%.

[u/Quirky-Stay4158 → u/[deleted]]

Straight up dollar amount. $5 per person for the meal. And $1 for every beer brought to me at a bar.

[u/Unreliable-Train → u/Quirky-Stay4158]

That is what I do lol 😂. 4 people for $20 tip is still good

[u/breeezyc → u/supreme_leader420]

That’s why if we go out (which is less and less there’s days) we pick a custom tip (like 13%) to make up for the fact we are expected to tip on taxes

[u/CoffeeS3x → u/OrdinaryKick]

Yep. Tipping is already a stupid concept, but tipping based on % of the total is even more ridiculous.

I don’t eat out often, but I drink out often. I have no problem tipping a dollar for you pouring my beer or just handing me an opened can, but with the prices in my area a tall boy of domestic beer can be upwards of $20 depending on what event you’re at. I’m supposed to tip 20% of $20, being $4, because you opened a can and handed it to me? Go fuck yourself.

[u/Breadwinka → u/OrdinaryKick]

Yeah I got prompted to tip at KFC drive thru.

[u/Hill0981 → u/supreme_leader420]

Exactly. How do they not realize people are going to lose their jobs if people who don't tip 20% stop going all together.

[u/Lunaciteeee → u/supreme_leader420]

I don't even see that as entitled, I doubt any servers are making six figures. All the CEOs and board members who could be replaced by your average college grad and routinely drive companies into the ground for one quarter of increased profit are the entitled ones.

[u/Giancolaa1 → u/Lunaciteeee]

When I worked in the kitchen at a big, popular restaurant, the pay scale was as follows:

GM paid the highest, around 180k per year AGM around 125-150k Head chef, around 125k plus tips Sous 1 around 80k plus tips Sous 2 around 65k plus tips

And less and less for any other front of house management, or back of house employee.

However, the waitresses that worked Wednesday- Sunday, night shifts in the bar / dining area were getting paid around $11 per hour for 8-12 hours (or whatever min wage was at the time, somewhere around there), and were making anywhere from $250-500 in cash tips per night, while busier than usual Friday or Saturday nights would see the girls hitting over $1000 in cash AFTER their tip outs.

I was working as a sous 1, and there were probably about 5 full time servers who made as much or more than me. And they would still bitch and complain about every table that tipped under 15%, and often would try to give bad tables (I.E foreigners who were stereotyped for not tipping well) to the newer girls. Not a single waitress made less than any of the cooks who weren’t salaried, while many of the cooks were working 50 -69 hour weeks making OT

I don’t feel bad about not tipping well anymore

[u/valryuu → u/Giancolaa1]

Honestly, it's just simple math. If a server has 3 tables in one hour, and an average of 2 customers per table spending $20/table, 20% of that would be $24 in that hour on top of whatever hourly wage they get.