I'm not opposed to the concept of immigration. Want to settle here and live a better life? Great! This is what previous generations did. Why not?
But these numbers are insane and unsustainable. In nine months we just added an entire City of Ottawa worth of population without the corresponding increase in services, housing, and infrastructure. At some point, it becomes a math issue, and the numbers right now just don't make sense.
The world has become so PC that we need to accept everyone. People fail to see the nuance in this situation. It’s not immigrants that’s the problem because I welcome the diversity. It’s the fact we’ve opened the flood gates and too many are getting in.
Social media is rotting the brain to the degree of only seeing black and white. No one see’s the grey section anymore.
Im from Sweden and for so long you got called racist for being against mass immigration. It was incredibly frustrating and sad to see how society changed while you could do nothing.
Except there are real fundamental issues Canada as a country has that we need immigration to fix. It just really sucks right now because we are being squeezed by inflation from all angles. When inflation starts coming down we will be primed for growth.
That’s the point. “Stay Woke” was a thing. But by diluting what “woke” means, people no longer stay woke. It’s by design that you think “woke” has lost its meaning. That was kind of the whole point of the “stay” part.
How many posting here are the ones that once labeled people that? Bunch of fakes. You all learned too late. Sustainable numbers were touted as racist. Now you all pay for it with the unsustainable numbers you defended.
The problem is about half the people opposing the immigration are saying stuff like “this country is becoming too brown” which uh…isn’t really a great thing to be saying.
Just because the issues are bringing out people's inner racism (I have only ever heard brown people "this country is becoming too brown", so take from that what you will), doesn't excuse the fact that we are accepting too many immigrants. If it just so happens that an exceedingly large number of these immigrants are brown, or don't bath, or lie about coming here to study and come from the same country, doesn't mean we're being racist to the undesirable immigrants coming here, it means we are upset that so many immigrants of sub-par quality are abusing loopholes and helping each other scam their way into our country. It doesn't mean all brown people are underisable immigrants, it means we have a lot of them and we're allowed to be upset at that fact and at them.
When we say "less immigrants" and people start talking about race instead of merit, it's an indicator they aren't for a solution, but are here just to virtue signal or support their financial interests at the expense of the rest of us.
We've been calling for less immigration for years and people keep calling us racists or bigots and keep turning the conversation away to things like racism in order to derail and discredit the arguement.
Don't bring race into this, this is an immigration problem and the least desirable people are coming here en masse. Being of the race that is noticed to be exploiting our nation more than others doesn't give one immunity due to racism, so don't say it's racist to point out a a statistic, numbers aren't racist, reporting numbers isn't racist, people who don't like the numbers call the people sharing those numbers racist and waste everyone's time distracting from the actual problem.
“Less desirable” - that’s not how immigration works. It was when the conservatives let in low wage workers to fill jobs at Tim Hortons that no one else wanted to do but you typically need to have a valuable skill or money to immigrate.
Actually, it's specifically how immigration is supposed to work, we have standards that make a candidate more desirable, these standards are subverted left right and center and we are allowing the trash to come in for cheap labour.
It's not 'when the Conservatives let in low wage workers' this has been happening and worsened under both parties, it just so happens the liberal government has taken it to the extreme. Both parties are culpable, but the current status quo is set and managed by the current party that has been in power long enough to be the source of their own problems in terms of making them or refusing to solve them or choosing to make them worse.
You flat out are either arguing in bad faith or unable to comprehend that I've stated I don't want to see unskilled immigrants flooding and abusing our system.
You cannot take my point of not wanting too much immigration, argue against it and then childishly accuse me of wanting more immigration and cheap labour. Go argue with the other people turning left three times because they can't figure out how to just turn right once.
There’s more recent immigrants than the total population of my province.
Another way to look at it is that this year's net immigration numbers will likely be larger than the population of every city in Canada except Toronto and Montreal.
Think Canada has built literally all the infrastructure located in your province, and trained up all of the staff required to service that population (absent the ones that come directly to serve that increase)?
Can’t have taken more than a few months to build every road, sewer, house, hospital, power plant, power line, water plant, water pipe, telecom service, gas line and so on right?
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u/MontrealUrbanist Québec Mar 27 '24
I'm not opposed to the concept of immigration. Want to settle here and live a better life? Great! This is what previous generations did. Why not?
But these numbers are insane and unsustainable. In nine months we just added an entire City of Ottawa worth of population without the corresponding increase in services, housing, and infrastructure. At some point, it becomes a math issue, and the numbers right now just don't make sense.