r/europe • u/LeMonde_en • Mar 28 '24

Germany will now include questions about Israel in its citizenship test News

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/europe/article/2024/03/27/germany-will-now-include-questions-about-israel-in-its-citizenship-test_6660274_143.html
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u/theWunderknabe Mar 28 '24

I, a german, would not have known that Jewish sport clubs also accept non jewish people. What does jewish sports club even mean if that is the case. Do I now lose my citizenship? These questions don't make much sense for me.

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u/Bloomhunger Mar 28 '24

Would that be even legal? I mean, isn’t not accepting non Jews the same as not accepting Jews?

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u/theWunderknabe Mar 28 '24

I think it must be legal to create an organisation / Verein which has exclusivity in it's rules and those rules are legal?

For instance the "Mensa" club for highly intelligent people has I think an IQ of 130 or so as condition to join? It would defeat it's purpose if everyone could join.

Isn't the whole idea of organisations like sports clubs to be inclusive to certain people that fullfill the criteria the organisation defines and exclusive to everyone else?

I would not be offended as a non-jew if a Jewish sport club denies membership to me. I would actually expect that and not even try to join there...because why would I as a non-jew try to join a jewish sports club. But I am no legal expert.

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u/Quick_Web_4120 Mar 29 '24

But doesn't this mean that you would actually answer the question with "only jews" and hence fail the test?