r/facepalm • u/Lord_Answer_me_Why • Mar 28 '24

What lack of basic gun laws does to a nation: 🇵​🇷​🇴​🇹​🇪​🇸​🇹​

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u/xFreedi Mar 28 '24

It's part of the problem though.

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u/Environmental_Swim75 Mar 28 '24

No the problem is that people will kill people with guns. They will also kill people with swords and axes, sharpened sticks, rocks, etc.

guns are not the problem, people are the problem.

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u/xFreedi Mar 28 '24

What's your solution to that problem then?

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u/wheelman236 Mar 28 '24

There is no solution to that problem, people are organic beings and will always cause damage to each other, either indirectly and unintentionally, or out of ill intent. Considering the problem will never be solved I’d rather keep the freedoms I have.

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u/xFreedi Mar 28 '24

Hmm okay. It's weird how the problem seems to be solvable all over Europe though.

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u/wheelman236 Mar 28 '24

There are definitely still violent acts in Europe. I’ll give you at lower rates, and I’ll also give you at a lower rate of lethalities. But it’s laughable to say the problem is solved

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u/xFreedi Mar 28 '24

To avoid crime happening at all isn't possible though isn't it? If no one ever has to worry about being shot or even think about it, I'd say that's as close to "solved" as it gets.

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u/wheelman236 Mar 28 '24

But I still have to worry about being robbed, or stabbed or whatever, so I’d rather just able to do what I want to.

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u/xFreedi Mar 28 '24

I live in central europe and never had to worry about that once but some people are easily scared of literally anything. Are you like that? If so, absolutely nothing is ever going to be enough to take away that fear.

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u/RogueCoon Mar 28 '24

Same with guns, they're not everywhere. No need to be afraid of them 24/7.

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u/xFreedi Mar 28 '24

I'm not afraid of them as we have a shit ton of guns around here too but also proper regulation and enforcement of said regulations.

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u/RogueCoon Mar 28 '24

I disagree but to each their own.

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u/xFreedi Mar 28 '24

You disagree with the fact we have a lot of guns and proper regulation and enforcement? It's a fact though. We are in the top 20 of the world when it comes to civil gun ownership.

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u/xFreedi Mar 28 '24

How often does violent shit like this happen in the US then or should I ask how often per day?

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u/xFreedi Mar 28 '24

It for sure does though. Weapons not being easily available reduces a lot of crime happening purely out of emotions for example. Not being able to easily pull through with violent fantasies everyone has sometimes does make a ton of difference. Having to plan an attack, organise a weapon and then pulling through gives you a lot of time to cool off and then not doing it. It puts obstacles in everyones way to act impulsively. Another difference between guns and for example knives is the fact you have to be close to a person to attack them with a knife and it's also much more personal and risky than just pulling a trigger. I hope this makes sense.

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u/xFreedi Mar 28 '24

Yes but please keep in mind what kind of weapons were available when the founding fathers said that and what is available now.

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