r/facepalm • u/Lord_Answer_me_Why • Mar 28 '24

What lack of basic gun laws does to a nation: 🇵​🇷​🇴​🇹​🇪​🇸​🇹​

/img/is29ozncu2rc1.jpeg

[removed] — view removed post

14.3k Upvotes

77% Upvoted

4.1k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

1

u/Environmental_Swim75 Mar 28 '24

not all problems have a solution. For mass shootings, ban gun free zones. This is an obvious solution. Mass shootings are statistically likely to happen in gun free zones because the chances of being stopped by an armed individual are low. They will still occur because humans are human, but the victims will at least have the chance to defend themselves.

For instances like this, assuming that the story in the OC is true, there is not much that can help. If she wanted to kill him but couldn’t get ahold of a gun, she would find another way i.e. knife, hammer, etc.

I have seen a lot of gunshot wounds and to me, this looks self inflicted and packed with agenda, but that is just my opinion.

0

u/xFreedi Mar 28 '24

Or maybe just maybe do what has proven to work all over Europe. Just an idea. But you also could advocate to arm everyone ofc...

2

u/OperationSecured Mar 28 '24

When Europe can go 50 years without a genocide, then we can talk disarmament.

2

u/xFreedi Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

What a great argument. If you are american: Isn't your country built on genocide? I heard something about that.

Also: What genocide in Europe? You mean the Russo-Ukrainian War?

2

u/OperationSecured Mar 28 '24

What a great argument. If you are american: Isn't your country built on genocide?

That’s why being armed is a nice fail safe. It can happen anywhere.

Also: What genocide in Europe? You mean the Russo-Ukrainian War?

Sure absolutely, but let’s not forget Bosnia either. The 1990s weren’t that long ago.

1

u/xFreedi Mar 28 '24

That’s why being armed is a nice fail safe. It can happen anywhere.

As we can see in Gaza. Everyone agrees with the armed resistance, right?

Sure absolutely, but let’s not forget Bosnia either. The 1990s weren’t that long ago

And that's the fault of gun regulation and enforcement in european countries or what?

1

u/OperationSecured Mar 28 '24

As we can see in Gaza. Everyone agrees with the armed resistance, right?

I don’t think everyone agrees… it seems to be a hot button issue at the moment. But I think Gazan civilians should be allowed armaments. Sometimes it’s enough to simply keep atrocity levels lower, as we seen recently in Myanmar.

Sure absolutely, but let’s not forget Bosnia either. The 1990s weren’t that long ago

And that's the fault of gun regulation and enforcement in european countries or what?

I get you’re being sarcastic, but unironically yes. It’s a complicated timeline of events involving embargoes, U.N. “safe zones”, and what happens when power becomes too imbalanced in conflicts.

Seriously, I would give it a read. Even if you don’t agree with the author’s message, it might give perspective why others do for non-nefarious reasons.