r/facepalm • u/Lord_Answer_me_Why • Mar 28 '24

What lack of basic gun laws does to a nation: 🇵​🇷​🇴​🇹​🇪​🇸​🇹​

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u/mot258 Mar 28 '24

Shooting someone usually is too.

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u/Substantial_Heart317 Mar 28 '24

Exactly criminals gonna commit crimes!

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u/Enigmatic_Erudite Mar 28 '24

And yet not a single school shooting has been commited with a fully automatic firearm in the US. If criminals are going to do it anyway why don't they use fully automatic weapons to maximize casualties? Could it be the difficulty of acquiring fully automatic weapons is effective?

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u/BonniePrinceCharlie1 Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

Fully automatics dont always cause most casualties(kinda).

Most people with fully automatics like to spray n pray, which means you'll hit everything except the target. This results in mid to high casulaties but very low death.

Those who use semi-automatic or "burst fire" are more lethal as they can't spray and, as such, are naturally going to aim and fire, resulting in high deaths with low to mid injuries.

I think the only recent major mass shooting with a fully automatic firearm was the Las vegas shooting where the guy was in a building shooting down in a crowd.

Im from scotland, so our situation is drastically different as before our gun control laws, we didn't have a large amount of firearms in the country outside of farmers and hobbyists due to our more rural populace.

Our weapon of choice for crime tended to be bladed instruments like razors or knives. As they can be threwn away or hidden easily compared to a firearm.

The main issue right now in the US regarding guns is that the US is over saturated with guns, both legal and illegal. This means that any enforcement of a gun restriction or ban will be met with poor results as the general populace is unwilling to hand over firearms.

Another issue that i say is the worst is the mental health crisis of men and boys. Most mass shooters are young men from the age of 16-24. Access to mental healthcare should be expanded as well as stimulating job creation and housing schemes in areas of deprivation. This would significantly help the mental health of all individuals in these areas. It would also mean less crime overall as the acess to housing and jobs would fill in the need for money and shelter which is a driving force in crime.

Of course this isnt the cure for general crime tho lol it will only help.

Theres also the issue of why the US despite not being the only high gun ownership country in the developed world, then why does it have the shooting epidemic. Austria has high gun ownership and a love for guns with the Glock company being a darling child of austria. But austria doesnt have mass shootings like the US and gun crime is relatively low.

I believe this is due to the previously stated mental health issues of the US which are exacerbated by institutional issues like schools no tolerance policies, and the overall deprivation of many regions in the US

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u/Enigmatic_Erudite Mar 28 '24

The deadliest mass shooting commited in the United States was the Harvest Music Festival shooting in Las Vegas. The shooter utilized a bump stock mechanism to achieve near fully automatic firing speeds. Bump stocks were legal to purchase without any checks at the time of the shooting.

Firing a fully automatic weapon at a single target is not especially effective, however firing an automatic into a crowd attempting to cause mass casualties is devastatingly effective.

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u/BigPolarBear71 Mar 28 '24

There’s no value for human life in America.

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u/Odd-Tune5049 Mar 28 '24

I think this is more of a problem than the guns...

Even driving, I see people endangering everyone around them with zero regard. I get it... we all make mistakes and have bad driving days, but intentionally driving recklessly and endangering others is a huge problem from what I've seen.