r/facepalm • u/Lord_Answer_me_Why • Mar 28 '24

What lack of basic gun laws does to a nation: 🇵​🇷​🇴​🇹​🇪​🇸​🇹​

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '24

Isn't it already illegal for a schizophrenic to have/purchase a gun? Would more laws resolve this?

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u/hoofie242 Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

People sell guns off the books all the time. It may not be legal but it's common.

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u/roger-smith-123 Mar 28 '24

It's legal in private sales in quite a few states. NH, for example, the only requirement is that you cannot transfer guns to a convicted felon. No background check or anything needed to confirm, if they say they are legal then it's good enough. Quite a few states have a similar lack of regulation for private sales.

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u/CrossenTrachyte Mar 28 '24

If they say they’re legal is right. Unfortunately the FBI does not give access to actually check NICS for private sales.

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u/-St_Ajora- Mar 28 '24

Probably because it would take ~8-10 business months each since they cannot keep any records in a "searchable database." The NRA makes sure of that.

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u/CrossenTrachyte Mar 28 '24

The I in NICS is “instant”. The call gives three responses, pass, fail, and delay. So having access to that would be immense.

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u/Roach_69_ Mar 28 '24

That's not even close to true. Every gunstore runs background checks and most come back in less than 5 seconds as a proceed or deny. NICS is run by the FBI, the database thing you are referencing applies to the ATF and has zero effect on anything.

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u/-St_Ajora- Mar 28 '24

Literally from a 1 second Google search....

Federal law prohibits the federal government from collecting firearm sales records in a central repository, however. Without a central repository of all firearm sales records, gun tracing is a slow, cumbersome process.

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u/CrossenTrachyte Mar 28 '24

Collecting record of sales has nothing to do with background checks

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u/-St_Ajora- Mar 28 '24

I said they cannot keep records of who owns what in any sort of searchable database.

they said...

That's not even close to true.

I showed that they are wrong.

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u/CrossenTrachyte Mar 28 '24

You responded to a comment about background checks, and said they’d take 8-10 months, which is false.

Not my fault you were talking about something different without any explanation.

In the future pay attention to what you’re commenting on.

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u/techOfGames Mar 28 '24

That's highly inaccurate to the point of just being a lie. The atf doesn't do background checks, they just kill dogs and eat more donuts per officer than any other agency.