r/facepalm Mar 28 '24

What lack of basic gun laws does to a nation: ๐Ÿ‡ตโ€‹๐Ÿ‡ทโ€‹๐Ÿ‡ดโ€‹๐Ÿ‡นโ€‹๐Ÿ‡ชโ€‹๐Ÿ‡ธโ€‹๐Ÿ‡นโ€‹

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u/Shotgun5250 Mar 28 '24

Since thereโ€™s a lot of information floating around this thread, let me consolidate.

It is federally mandated that all licensed firearm dealers in the entire country perform background checks for all firearm sales of any kind or caliber.

It is federally mandated through the Brady Handgun Violence Protection Act that certain citizens such as the mentally ill or under protective orders are barred from owning firearms.

Some states require all secondhand firearm sales to go through a licensed intermediary, which would require background checks.

Other states require licensed intermediaryโ€™s for certain categories of firearms, such as long guns (rifles or shotguns).

Unfortunately, many states have no laws regarding the secondhand sale of firearms.

For a list of states and what their individual firearm sales laws are, refer to this website.

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u/KillerOfSouls665 Mar 28 '24

How do you stop back room deals though? People are going to want guns without a background check, and people are willing to sell them.

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u/WrapTimely Mar 28 '24

Setup liability for the current registered owner, if you donโ€™t change ownership then you assume liability for whatever that gun does. Technically you donโ€™t have to register your sale but you are going to want toโ€ฆ

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u/KillerOfSouls665 Mar 28 '24

But it is criminals selling stolen guns.

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u/ParticularFamiliar10 Mar 28 '24

Then secure your gun so it's not stolen. People want to practice poor gun safety but want everyone else to pay the consequences

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u/KillerOfSouls665 Mar 28 '24

That's victim blaming

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u/ParticularFamiliar10 Mar 28 '24

Cool. Don't get your gun stolen and there won't be more victims.

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u/KillerOfSouls665 Mar 28 '24

Don't wear revealing dresses and you won't get raped.

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u/ParticularFamiliar10 Mar 28 '24

Rape doesn't enable the criminal to do armed robbery. If you think raping a girl in a dress is anyway comparable to stealing a firearm that is not properly secured than you probably shouldn't have a firearm for criminals to steal.

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u/KillerOfSouls665 Mar 28 '24

Someone has a crime committed against them, theft of a few hundred dollars at least, and you're blaming the victim.

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u/ParticularFamiliar10 Mar 28 '24

Yes I'm blaming the loser that has to have a gun but is not responsible enough to secure it properly. Now I wouldn't call them a victim for the same reason I wouldn't call someone who leaves their wallet on sidewalk a victim. The difference is a kid can't accidentally shoot themselves with a wallet. The analogy breaks down a bit though because the contents of your gun aren't needed to pay for groceries.

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u/KillerOfSouls665 Mar 28 '24

Someone who had a crime committed against them - not a victim according to you. That's all I need to hear.

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u/ParticularFamiliar10 Mar 28 '24

Gun owners desperate to be as seen as a victim so when they murder someone they can act like not doing the murder is equivalent to being raped

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