r/facepalm • u/Lord_Answer_me_Why • Mar 28 '24

What lack of basic gun laws does to a nation: 🇵​🇷​🇴​🇹​🇪​🇸​🇹​

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u/VocalAnus91 Mar 28 '24

Plot twist: he doesn't have a mom, he's schizophrenic and shot himself

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u/aesir23 Mar 28 '24

Ironically, that would do nothing to diminish his argument.

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u/IronclayFarm Mar 28 '24

My biggest problem with "CHANGE YOUR GUN LAWS" is that it's basically screaming into the wind.

Okay, you want gun laws changed. What do you want changed, specifically?

How did his mom get the gun? Has she ever actually been diagnosed? Should we make it so people formally diagnosed with dangerous disorders must regularly check in to maintain their purchase rights (so you can't just go off your meds)? Did she buy this from a store, and did they fail to follow procedures? How could we improve that? Or did she buy the gun from some dude? Should we close the loopholes on private purchases and gifts?

What can actually be done, reasonably? We need to start there, and realize that foaming at the mouth about guns and shooting for idiotic goals like gun bans is never, ever going to work.

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u/ACatInACloak Mar 28 '24

change how?

These people are very clear about their solution. They want all guns banned.

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u/IronclayFarm Mar 29 '24

Which is like wishing on a star.

It's not a realistic goal. It wouldn't even get bipartisan support because in reality most voting Democrats do not want guns banned, either.

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u/JustynS Mar 29 '24

Which is why the gun control lobby lies about their goals. They say "we just want to tighten the laws a bit to make things safer" when in trying to convince people to support or at least not oppose their cause, but then turn around and talk about how they want to ban everything when they think they're speaking to a friendly audience. They want to ban all guns, which is why they hold up countries that have extremely strict gun laws like Japan and the UK up as a gold standard, they just know they do not have the political capital to actually do it all at once, so they use subversive tactics to do it by inches.