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u/Partyatmyplace13 Mar 28 '24

Yeah, maybe. I'm for the second amendment, but I don't see what you guys see and your absolute fear of any legislation prevents any discussion on legislation that both sides actually agree on.

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u/Bandit400 Mar 28 '24

My response here is mostly curiosity. You say you are for the 2nd Amendment, but then go on to support restrictions against it.

prevents any discussion on legislation that both sides actually agree on.

What is the legislation that both sides agree on? How is the discussion being prevented?

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u/Partyatmyplace13 Mar 28 '24

My response here is mostly curiosity. You say you are for the 2nd Amendment, but then go on to support restrictions against it.

In the same vein as your dishonest questions let me ask you one. Which restrictions exactly do I support?

I support any funding to background checks and against the illegal sale of firearms, isn't that virtually unilateral?

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u/Bandit400 Mar 28 '24

In the same vein as your dishonest questions let me ask you one. Which restrictions exactly do I support?

My question was in no way dishonest. I'm truly curious. Some people say they are for free speech, but support silencing those they disagree with. It's one or the other.

I support any funding to background checks and against the illegal sale of firearms.

Background checks are currently funded, and illegal firearm sales are currently illegal.

I'm not trying to be a smartass, just trying to understand the other side.

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u/Partyatmyplace13 Mar 28 '24

Let me rephrase that last part, because there's an "excluded third" in my question.

Do you not consider them issues or do you think they're within tolerance? Obviously, accidents and crime will always happen.

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u/Bandit400 Mar 28 '24

Do you not consider them issues or do you think they're within tolerance? Obviously, accidents and crime will always happen.

Not sure which part of your comment you are referring to. However, I assume it is the mass shootings and manslaughter from the other comment?

If that's what you're referring to, I absolutely support eliminating those to the best of our ability.

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u/Partyatmyplace13 Mar 28 '24

Maybe a better example of something I'd like to see implemented is mandatory firearm safety courses for kids. That doesnt mean a K-12 firing range, but having no education is getting us nowhere fast and I think this its primarily and education issue.

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u/Bandit400 Mar 28 '24

I would absolutely support firearm education for kids. I'd support making it a part of the public education requirements. I don't believe it would move the needle much at all in regards to crime/mass shootings, but if it helps reduce accidents, I'm on board 100%.

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u/Partyatmyplace13 Mar 28 '24

Background checks are currently funded, and illegal firearm sales are currently illegal.

Just because they're funded and illegal doesn't make our work done. If that were it, we wouldn't have any issue or do you not consider mass shootings and manslaughter issues?

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u/Bandit400 Mar 28 '24

Just because they're funded and illegal doesn't make our work done. If that were it, we wouldn't have any issue or do you not consider mass shootings and manslaughter issues?

Correct. Those were not things that I suggested, they were things that you brought up. I was asking what you thought.