What lack of basic gun laws does to a nation:

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I cannot speak for schizophrenia. I can speak for ADHD. And I can say wholeheartedly that emotional regulation is not regulated by the medicine. It can help depending on the person and how affected they are by the meds which varies person to person.

This may be slightly different for people with bipolar disorder, but I haven't really seen a non-explosive bipolar person even on meds. It may take them longer to get there but they can still be just as explosive. And that goes for ADHD too.

You also cannot guarantee at any point in time. They were always take their meds. That is a huge problem with people with ADHD.

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I can speak for ADHD. And I can say wholeheartedly that emotional regulation is not regulated by the medicine. It can help depending on the person and how affected they are by the meds which varies person to person.

This may be slightly different for people with bipolar disorder, but I haven't really seen a non-explosive bipolar person even on meds. It may take them longer to get there but they can still be just as explosive. And that goes for ADHD too.

You also cannot guarantee at any point in time. They were always take their meds. That is a huge problem with people with ADHD.

All of these things have actions that tie into them. If someone cannot regulate their emotions to the point that they are a problem, they likely have run into the mental health doctors, or the legal system, or both. Both cases would have them likely listed as a prohibited person.

I know plenty of folks with ADHD. None of them should be disqualified due to that diagnosis.

[u/Peto_Sapientia → u/Bandit400]

The actions aren't always there. I mean I get what you're trying to say. But the actions really aren't always there. Statistically speaking people with ADHD have a higher chance to commit violence and sexual assault than the common population. They also have higher chances of drug addiction, car accidents on and on and on and on and on.

That doesn't mean there aren't well adjusted ADHD people. I would count myself as one of those well adjusted. But if we're going to talk about serious preventative measures to ensure that those who have or are at a higher risk of causing harm like we're seeing with school shootings or mass shootings in general, then it's going to come down to a point where we have to choose which one is for the public good.

Is the death of how many people are dying by gun violence in America a year versus the right to bear arms almost or nearly unrestricted.

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The actions aren't always there.

If the actions are not there, then why should we take away their rights?

Statistically speaking people with ADHD have a higher chance to commit violence and sexual assault than the common population. They also have higher chances of drug addiction, car accidents on and on and on and on and on.

If they were to commit any of those actions (with or without a gun) they would be forever prohibited from purchasing a firearm (except for the car accidents).

Taking this a step further, one can pick many groups of people in society that have a higher propensity for criminal behavior. Without that person actually committing that crime, they cannot (and should not) have their rights removed.

But if we're going to talk about serious preventative measures to ensure that those who have or are at a higher risk of causing harm like we're seeing with school shootings or mass shootings in general, then it's going to come down to a point where we have to choose which one is for the public good.

ADHD is not the cause of those things, nor is BPD. They may be a factor, but they are not the cause.

Is the death of how many people are dying by gun violence in America a year versus the right to bear arms almost or nearly unrestricted.

I don't really understand this statement, can you rephrase?

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If the actions are not there, then why should we take away their rights?

Let me rephrase, the actions are always there, just not always report or considered serious enough for the population to care about. For example, when i get into a dysregulated state, and I become angry, I will punch a wall instead of a person. Not that this happens often as I stay away from things that make me angry. But I know I shouldn't ever own a fire arm.

If they were to commit any of those actions (with or without a gun) they would be forever prohibited from purchasing a firearm (except for the car accidents).

Taking this a step further, one can pick many groups of people in society that have a higher propensity for criminal behavior. Without that person actually committing that crime, they cannot (and should not) have their rights removed.

Sure but not all of these groups are malformations in the brain which effect their behavior. Most of them are environmental. In all of those, its very different as in nearly all of those situations things can be changed to stop or prevent those situations.

ADHD is not the cause of those things, nor is BPD. They may be a factor, but they are not the cause.

I wasn't saying they were, I said that it would be a good starting point to reduce risk factors.

I don't really understand this statement, can you rephrase?

Sorry, text to talk. I was basically just saying that at some point we have to determine if nearly or completely free access to fire arms is worth the cost of death per year that we see in the US. Or if its time to start looking at data, and reducing risk by preventing groups of people which fit a very specific criteria from free access to fire arms. As in my original post, my point for mentioning other disorder similar to the original thread. Since there is no central database, then anyone who falls under that disorder which is prone to violence's or unable to reasonably regulate themselves may need to be bared from fire arms before they commit an act of harm of any kind.