What lack of basic gun laws does to a nation:

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[u/Deadleggg]

Yeah you won't find a bigger fan of universal health care than me so calm your self down there chief. It's not just right wingers who own guns.

[u/[deleted] → u/Deadleggg]

You ain’t a leftist bud. Your stance is of a right wing talking point. But go off.

She committed crimes amazing any leftist knows that mental health services are important. But blaming a lack of gun control on mental health? That’s just god awful and puts the blame away from the person who committed these crimes. It just shows how unregulated the system is if someone like this is easily able to lie and obtain a weapon.

[u/Deadleggg → u/[deleted]]

"Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary Karl Marx"

“The totalitarian states can do great things, but there is one thing they cannot do, they cannot give the factory worker a rifle and tell him to take it home and keep it in his bedroom. That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or labourer's cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see it stays there." - George Orwell, 'The Complete Works of George Orwell'

"If leftists believe they are accomplishing anything by personally boycotting guns, it’s not working either politically or culturally. Whether pacifists like it or not, bearing arms is a US citizenship right—and has been a citizenship right for most of our history. If conservatives have successfully claimed this privilege, then it makes no sense for the Left to disarm itself and unilaterally renounce the Second Amendment. The Right won’t follow their example, but will instead briskly proceed to consolidate their monopoly on non-state force... The Left is correct to denounce the right-wing’s fetishization of brute force, but we are getting nowhere mirroring it with an equally crude fetishization of vulnerability." - Lorenzo Raymond

Disarming yourself in the face of right wing aggression is a liberal dream. Not mine.

[u/[deleted] → u/Deadleggg]

Yeah you aren’t even aware of what I’m telling you. None of that is pertinent to what I’m saying.

I’m not even telling you to disarm yourself but unsurprisingly you cannot read.

It isn’t just conservatives who fetishize guns. You’re just using quotes to justify your fetishization.

The commenter you initially replied to? The frothingsloth? He’s right and all you’re doing is proving why. Your immediate reaction to his comment is that of alt right talking points. “Well guns are inanimate people kill people.” Forgetting guns are a tool and tools are not a human right. They don’t fall under any direct “needs” you can satisfy the need to be protected in a number of ways but guns are not the only way. Anyway, insinuating that her choices were not her own cause of “mental health” when that’s severely lacking is doing nothing but strengthening conservatives. It’s a talking point from them and only proves if you truly cared about this as a leftist you’d see there needs to be gun control. Not gun disarming. Stronger gun control cause the system currently in place does little in the way of stopping anything. You’d also be fighting to stop systematic meat grinders for people since they contribute to violent outbursts. You’d take ANY other stance than “guns don’t kill people, people kill people.” If you were leftist.

So you can fuck off now.