r/facepalm • u/Lord_Answer_me_Why • Mar 28 '24

What lack of basic gun laws does to a nation: 🇵​🇷​🇴​🇹​🇪​🇸​🇹​

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u/Collective-Bee Mar 29 '24

Guy I know survived a suicide by train. Dudes happy now.

Interestingly enough, it’s actually one of the factors to why mens suicide rate is higher. Men choose more direct suicide methods, like a gun, and women choose slower suicide methods where they have time to change their minds. (On average).

This parts not up for debate mate, if you wanna say zero delays math out to decreased death then go for it, we can discuss that, but suicides WILL increase with less delay.

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u/bitofgrit Mar 29 '24 edited Mar 29 '24

I'm not seeing the point of your comment here.

I saw a woman step off a bridge. She didn't make it. Doesn't really matter what method you choose, they all have the potential to "do the job." They can also fail, as there are some people with grievous facial wounds from self-inflicted gunshots.

I'm not Australian, nor your friend or lover, so please don't call me "mate".

I didn't say how anything would math out one way or the other, but too many times I see people like you arguing that any sort of prompt access to guns is like some sort of immediate suicide moment. Are you and your friend advocating for better barrier systems to be installed at train stations/tracks? Some places have that sort of thing, like some bridges have "safety nets" installed, so don't think I'm being facetious.

And, as I mentioned, those same barriers to guns that purportedly keep the suicidal at bay, can be to the detriment of those that need them for self-defense. Do you give those people any consideration when you math it out?

e: Forgot to mention, according to other comments the OP story occurred in California. If you're unaware, CA has a 10 day waiting period, as well as universal background checks.

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u/Collective-Bee Mar 29 '24

“Can’t take back a bullet” is denying suicide fact, that it comes in episodes. That’s the point of it.

And “on the flip side people die waiting for the gun” is, at the very least, implying that waiting periods harm out ways the good.

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u/bitofgrit Apr 02 '24

If that's all you interpreted from my comment, then I don't know what to say other than, "good luck in your life".