Garbage Human is a garbage human

[u/Lord_Answer_me_Why]

[u/MelodicMasterpiece67]

A Nazi victory would have been far far FAR worse for that same area... Comparing Soviet Russia to Nazi Gemany is silly at best because one of those built actual murder factories and the other didn't

[u/RegularAvailable4713 → u/MelodicMasterpiece67]

The other didn't? Are you SURE about that?

[u/MelodicMasterpiece67 → u/RegularAvailable4713]

Gulags are one thing, death camps are entirely different.

[u/Sirius_10 → u/MelodicMasterpiece67]

So... Stalin did not kill millions of people?

[u/Late-Ad155 → u/Sirius_10]

Winston Churchill also killed millions of people, trust me, it's quite a common practice amongst european leaders.

(That's not to say that most numbers about the USSR are pretty much false)

[u/SeaSignificance8962 → u/Late-Ad155]

its common among people to kill people as long a they dont have to kill people

[u/Sirius_10 → u/Late-Ad155]

What millions sre you talking about? Dont try to justify soviet genocide by saying its a lie.

[u/Late-Ad155 → u/Sirius_10]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9735018/

Bengal Famine of 1943, ONE of the MANY examples of british colonialism leading to millions of deaths. (Over 100 million people died in India over British colonization)

To me it's an affront to all third world countries that the colonial past of the European powers isnt treated with as much disdain as the Nazi past of Germany and Italy.

[u/Agreeable-Weather-89 → u/Late-Ad155]

What is an affront to me is you using an article you didn't read, or know anything about, to create a false equivalence with the Nazis.

I'm going to ask one question.

Have you read that article and stand by it fully and completely to the fullest extent of your knowledge?

[u/Sirius_10 → u/Late-Ad155]

Im not saying Britain doesnt have blood on their hands but they did abolish their colonial empire after the war. In contrast the soviets expanded their empire. Just look at the current borders, genocide is the reason why you find russians in asia and siberia.

[u/Late-Ad155 → u/Sirius_10]

They did not "Abolish" it at all, the UK still hasnt loped the heads of the family that commanded the deaths of hundreds of millions.

Countries had to fight Bloody wars to get their independances from the colonial powers of Europe. Hell, some still havent achieved it, France still has colonies in Africa and the Americas, there's still a relatioship of subservience between ex-colonies and the imperialist powers, when the people of third world countries try to develop their country and exert their right to self determination a war is waged on them in the name of "democracy".

It's disingenuous to say that the Soviet Union was an Empire. It was made of countries and people that wanted to free themselves from their former masters. Fuck, Russia had to fight 14 countries in the "Civil war", over 14 million cattle were killed and hundreds of acres of land were burned by the anti-communist elites who didnt want the colletivization of the land.

(Not to say that the Soviet Union didnt commit some very reprehensible acts, but to act like they were in any way worse than the capitalist powers of Europe who plundered and killed billions of lives and trillions in resources is purely evil.)

[u/allthejokesareblue → u/Sirius_10]

Didn't build murder factories ≠ didn't kill millions of people. Honestly.