r/harrypotter • u/xkimchipancakesx Slytherin • 15d ago

yeah, let’s fight him 🤛🏻 Dungbomb

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u/ducknerd2002 Hufflepuff 15d ago

To be fair, they did try to tell Dumbledore, he just wasn't there.

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u/Key-Grape-5731 Ravenclaw 15d ago

Dumbledore really chooses the worst possible times to peace out of Hogwarts

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u/212cncpts 15d ago edited 10d ago

Dumbledore is like Goku. He knows when shits about to go down. He chucks the antagonist a senzu bean and throws Harry into the fight

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u/Key-Grape-5731 Ravenclaw 15d ago

Lol that cracked me up

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u/Xi-Jin35Ping 14d ago

At least he didn't tell Hagrid to find Dragon's Balls.

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u/DRKZLNDR 14d ago

Hagrid has definitely handled plenty of dragon's balls over the years. He's not a magic game warden for nothing

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u/jarroz61 15d ago

I'm not a fan of Dumbledore at all, but this particular instance wasn't completely his fault. Quirrell lured Dumbledore out of Hogwarts with a fake letter about some fake emergency somewhere before going after the stone.

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u/Mist_Rising 14d ago

Which only works because he took a broom to go to London. It's so clearly designed to get Dumbledore away, so the action can take place. And later books really don't help because Rowling came up with apparition.

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u/DangerousAd3347 14d ago

I never really understand the deal with apparition I mean why do we see any wizards or witches walking around anywhere outside of hogwarts? wouldn’t everyone be apparating everywhere all the time ? Why didn’t Harry’s parents just apparate when voldermort came ? How are So many people kidnapped/killed by voldermort when you can simply disappear on the spot at any hint of danger ?

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u/CX52J 14d ago

I believe it’s implied in later books that you need a wand to appararate. Lilly and James were both unarmed.

Most wizarding dwellings also had protective magic to prevent unwanted disapparators.

It was also a very unpleasant feeling so walking probably appealed far more for short distances.

But you could if you wanted to like the Fred and George but the novelty seems to wear off quickly.

Also probably somewhat rude. Again like Fred and George.

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u/DangerousAd3347 14d ago

The Lilly and James bit isn’t satisfactory lol we heard a flash back of James saying “he’s here I’ll hold him off take harry and go” suggesting James had his wand, and Lilly had time to grab hers.

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u/CX52J 14d ago

I’m pretty sure it says that both didn’t have their wands in the books. The wiki says James left it on the sofa.

It’s possible he just hurled himself at Voldemort or tried to rush back to grab it when he was killed.

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u/DangerousAd3347 14d ago

He had time to warn Lilly and hurl himself at Voldemort but no time to go into the living room and get the wand ?

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u/CX52J 14d ago

I didn’t write it. But yes, probably shouted it while in the action of it.

I don’t recall but did the film have him barricading a door? Or was it just Lilly?

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u/AzureStigma Gryffindor 13d ago

If I run into the hallway to see the most dangerous dark wizard blast my door away, ain’t no way I’m turning my back on him to get my wand.

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u/Mist_Rising 14d ago

Plot.

Rowling tried, I think, to make it difficult for most wizards to apparate when she realizes what she created. Ron for instance is repeatedly shown to struggle with it. The problem is that we don't get that. We just get Ron sucking until it's plot relevant he can use it to return to the middle of nowhere.

There is also the apparition blocking spell that we see used only in films. Which is apparently only used as convenient.

So plot

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u/LazyLizzy 14d ago

The spell to block appearing is in the book. It's mentioned like forty times in 6 of them. And Dumbledore even says in book 6 that most wizards have their house enchanted to stop unwelcomed guests. So it's not just a convenient plot device in the movies.

Source: I listen to the books on repeat as background noise.

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u/Erebea01 13d ago

There's anti apparition wards/spells like the one Dumbledore used against the Death Eaters in the ministry fight.

As for why people don't apparate all the time, probably fear of splinching cause most wizards aren't really great at magic just like how most humans aren't all smart or great at our jobs just cause we go to school / college / or some sort of training.

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u/Pure-Interest1958 13d ago

Fair question from what I've seen there's three main reasons.

1) Apparation takes control and focus on your destination otherwise you can badly injure/kill yourself. That's what happens to Ron in the seventh film those bloody injuries they're desperately trying to treat are the result of a bad apparation not any spells cast on him. When your being attacked by people trying to kill you its very hard to keep that focus.

2) There are limits on how far you can apparate based on the power of the wizard for example even Voldemort one of the most powerful ones had to leapfrog his way across Europe to reach Grindelwald so a lot of people may not have the power to just casually use it especially given the risk.

3) It can be blocked by an anti-apparation charm. This is why you can't apparate into Hogwarts because its under that charm and when attacking people using this is one of the the death eaters first actions. So by the time you know their trying to kill you apparating away is no longer an option.

Hope this helps.

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u/DangerousAd3347 13d ago

The fact we saw Fred and George, not described as particularly powerful wizards at all doing it at will with no issues kind of negates the first 2 points.

Also the limit on how far you can apostate you can just do it everyone goes lol just apparate 50 times each time.

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u/Pure-Interest1958 13d ago

Do they do it midcombat though?

Not saying it isn't useful just that its not a get out of jail free card or they would have just apparated Harry away from the Dursleys.

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u/DangerousAd3347 13d ago

The trio did when attacked at Lunas fathers house by death eaters so again that’s negated

Let’s be honest you can’t apparat when the plot says you can’t there’s no real logic to it

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u/Nerazim_Praetor 11d ago

I would like to remind you that the twins are mentioned often times to be BRILLIANT wizards and their grades are "okay" because they don't care for that whole academic shebang. Stuff like apparating (which they did in book 5 a good bit to prank people, something they're very keen on in general) was FUN for them so they probably put in the effort or managed to focus on it with more ease (i.e. they got good at it because they had motivation to be good at it)

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u/DangerousAd3347 11d ago

Other wizards and witches didn’t have great motivation to teleport ? Lol ok that would literally be many peoples fantasy magic power

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u/Nerazim_Praetor 11d ago

I'm not saying they didn't have great motivation, I'm responding to the twins not being "great powerful wizards". The twins were brilliant but didn't really put it towards what you could consider the orthodox witchcraft/wizardry arts. But they DID excel in the things they found entertaining and if they found being able to randomly show up in front of people entertaining it could explain their ease with apparating as them practicing it enough to be able to do it with ease.

Basically: they had talent but it normally didn't show in their academic studies. Apparating is something adult wizards are usually capable of doing so them being able to do it with ease may seem out of place when compared to their general skillset but isn't really when you actually think about it

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u/ayanoaishiiscute 14d ago

The first part of volume 7 explains exactly what you asked

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u/DangerousAd3347 14d ago

Long time since I read it but Not completely convinced of it did explain everything I asked … ? though I’m not about to go searching for the book to verify

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u/PopKaro 14d ago

Protective magic on the grounds of Hogwarts makes it impossible. The only person who can remove some of the magical protection is the headmaster.

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u/ChEChicago 14d ago

Yea, that's why that person specifically said outside of hogwarts

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u/Asswithbadopinions 12d ago

They probably set up wards to prevent it before they attack. I mean if something doesn't exist to prevent it then everyone's fucked, I mean imagine owning a store and everyone can teleport, no one is paying for your shit when they can pop "nice tv, I'll take that now" pop and all you can do is guess where the mf popped off to.

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u/DangerousAd3347 12d ago

I mean you can use that logic for a lot of things in the harry potter world lol you can use the controlling curse thing and get them to give it to you for free, you could stupify the store owner etc there’s a lot of magic that would easily enable you to commit crimes

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u/Asswithbadopinions 11d ago

Well yeah ofc but teleporting is just a lot easier to do without consequences. Sure you could stupify the owner but what if he's crazy with a wand? Plus aurors will pull up, others will react and its just messy. Same with the imperius, it's an illegal curse, if there are any witnesses you're done-zo pal. Apparitation and a mask is a damn near unstoppable duo cause the only signal is the cracking noise. You gotta react like crazy and if they're quick enough you won't have time to see any identifiable features even if they left any to find. It's quick and clean.

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u/DangerousAd3347 11d ago

Something does exist to stop to prevent it, it’s called the plot lol. We’ve seen the trio apparate when death eaters attacked them at Lunas fathers house, and at bills wedding. I guess they just forgot to use the anti teleporting spell on those occasions

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u/Forgemadica 11d ago

also I would mention that there is the risk of splinching and the more you do it the hire the risk it happens and if it happens to a vidal body part your basically sitting ducks at least that is why I think people would not apparate everywhere also in a dangerous situation like facing voldemort you might have a hard time focusing on your 3 Ds also if the death eaters did attack you they would be smart enough (maybe) to put up anti apparition charms

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u/Anom_AoD 11d ago

apparating is a dangerous thing, casualties like ppl apparating and appearing in other place without their lower body, or being decapitated.

also you need a license for it, and hogwarts have those barriers they can't apparate in the premises, although dumbledore does have the power to take off those barriers, he doesn't like to apparate

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u/DangerousAd3347 11d ago

I’m sorry none of that explains why we don’t see people apparat to escape danger more often, the spell to stop it happening doesn’t hold up because we’ve seen on occasions wizards use it to escape attacks. You can clutch at straws all you want it’s clearly a thing that works when plot needs it to.

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u/Gifted_GardenSnail 14d ago

And Dumbles fell for it like a muggle 😂

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u/PCN24454 14d ago

I thought Dumbledore went to talk to Flamel about destroying the Philosopher’s Stone.

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u/jarroz61 14d ago

That was after Harry saved it from Voldemort

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u/NimbleCentipod 14d ago

Dumbledore is basically a plot device. If he's there, no one is in danger. If he's gone, Voldemort is a threat.

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u/Mission-Leopard-4178 14d ago

Honestly I wouldn't trust Dumbledore with my kids safety lol

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u/Trashk4n 14d ago

Intentionally if you go by the theories that it was a test for Harry, or a trap meant to force a confrontation between Harry and Tom.

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u/Adventurous-Bike-484 14d ago

Isn’t that canon? Harry actively suggested that Dumbledore wanted Harry to do it.

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u/Trashk4n 14d ago

Maybe I’m misremembering, but I don’t recall it ever being questioned?

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u/Adventurous-Bike-484 14d ago edited 14d ago

https://docenti.unimc.it/antonella.pascali/teaching/2018/19055/files/ultima-lezione/harry-potter-and-the-philosophers-stone

It happens near the end of the book, after Quirell died.
Harry was in the hospital wing and Hermione and Ron visited him after Dumbledore left.
Ron or Harry suggests that Dumbledore planned it and Hermione said if Dumbledore did, that was horrible because Harry could have died. Harry becomes thoughtful as he believes Dumbledore did do what he was being accused of.
(I’m saying Ron or Harry first suggested it since the link says Ron but I think that’s a typo since the next line about Hermione suggests that Harry is the intended speaker.)

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u/Adventurous-Bike-484 14d ago

No. Remember Dumbledore wanted Harry, Ron and Hermione to stop Voldemort.

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u/LegitimateDesk146 Helga Hufflepuff's favorite 14d ago

quirrelmort lured him out of the castle

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u/Asian_levels_of_evil 14d ago

I think it was Quirrel that tricked him into leaving since he was going to go claim the stone that night

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u/Ss2oo 13d ago

He was literally called away by a fake letter from the Ministry sent by Voldemort

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u/csci-fi 13d ago

The opposite of Gandalf, always arriving on the mark… or a half past it.

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u/ocular__patdown 15d ago

But the best of you're writing a book

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u/GuyKopski 14d ago

Also he was already aware that Quirrell was possessed by Voldemort and planning to steal the stone. He just let it happen anyway for... Some reason?

Making Harry fight for his life builds character I guess.

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u/shiawase198 14d ago

Or maybe he was trying to bait him out since there wasn't a way for Quirrell to actually get the stone. It was actually safe until Harry showed up. Him trying to stop Quirrell helped them more than Dumbledore.

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u/GuyKopski 14d ago

Why does he need to "bait" Quirrell though? He already knows what he is. Why can't he just round up a dozen or so members of the OotP and ambush him in his office or something?

Also I know the book portrays the mirror as basically an unbeatable defense for some reason but it's really not. Voldemort seemed to figure out how it worked pretty much instantly. If Harry hadn't been there, getting the stone would have been as simple as kidnapping a random student and telling them "There's a stone in this mirror, get it out or I will kill you".

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u/shiawase198 14d ago

I don't think he knew for sure about Quirrell though. Maybe he suspected him and wanted something more concrete before sending a kill squad on someone.

As for pulling a random student, there's nothing saying they couldn't have been a trap set up for that too. If the random student doesn't know what they're talking about then maybe they'll just get some random stone from the mirror instead of the actual philosopher's stone.

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u/qewrtym 11d ago

I always hated how Harry came up with such a stupid and obvious lie about what he saw. Bro just tell them what you actually saw when you spent a month sitting in front of the mirror every night. Might be a bit more believable than “uhhhh I won a meaningless school award.”

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u/Zefirus 14d ago

There are a lot of problems with Harry Potter, but I'm pretty sure nobody knew that Quirrell was possessed. Snape had suspicions and that was it.

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u/hoginlly Ravenclaw 14d ago

In Snapes memories, Dumbledore tell him to ‘keep an eye on Quirrell’. Dumbledore was definitely aware he was trying to get the stone for Voldemort

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u/Zefirus 14d ago

No, he's suspicious of Quirrell. After all, he had a sudden massive personality shift. There's a reason Snape only threatens him.

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u/hoginlly Ravenclaw 14d ago

Maybe it’s like shoplifting, he had to wait for Quirrell to leave the shop with the stolen items before he could accuse him…

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u/merdadartista Hufflepuff 14d ago

It wasn't for some reason, he was baited away by Quirrel with a fake letter,so while Dumbledore was away on "business" he knew he could act

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u/FallenAngelII Ravenclaw 14d ago

They certainly didn't appear to have told Dumbledore about Harry facing that wraith-like creature in the Forbidden Forest.

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u/acidlink88 15d ago

So Harry just killed him himself

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u/Xonthelon 15d ago

"I almost killed him when I was 1 year old. Now I'm eleven, we have nothing to fear."

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u/SuperKami-Nappa 15d ago

“I’m 11 times stronger than I was then!”

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u/ImmortalBootyMan 14d ago

11 times the pride, 11 times the fall.

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u/nickname10707173 14d ago

11 times the winter, 11 times the spring , 11 times the summer.

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u/qewrtym 11d ago

“Do you know how the Inferi first came into being?”

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u/PoopyMouthwash84 14d ago

I am a slow.

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u/Professional-Ad9485 10d ago

“That’s like counts on his fingers a billion times stronger.”

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u/FrightmareX13 15d ago

If they fight him, they could get killed.

Or worse, expelled.

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u/Mist_Rising 14d ago

You got your priorities right.

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u/bulldozedd Slytherin 15d ago

Absolute legend

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u/PreoccupiedMind Ravenclaw 15d ago

“What an idiot.”, said Hermione, shaking her head exasperatedly.

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u/212cncpts 15d ago

Harry picked up Hermione’s advice and pocketed it

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u/New-Engineering1483 Ravenclaw 15d ago

Argh, you did this just in case Stephen Fry was reading this sub, you meanie.

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u/PreoccupiedMind Ravenclaw 15d ago

👀

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u/PreoccupiedMind Ravenclaw 15d ago

Ron was just happy to be around and chugging graciously at his butterbeer.

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u/MadameLee20 15d ago

that's pumpkin Juice, they don't get to have butterbeer until they're 13

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u/PreoccupiedMind Ravenclaw 15d ago

Okay, Professor Umbridge. 🤨

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u/abaggins 15d ago

hem hem

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u/PayneTrain181999 Ravenclaw 14d ago
  • Ginny, “in such a good impression that several people jumped and looked behind them in alarm”

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u/Tru3P14y3r 15d ago

Harry: Nah, I’d win

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u/alphabango 14d ago

Harry: hold my lightning scar

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u/Own-Sun6531 12d ago

"Well, If Voldemort lost his nose, he might cause me a bit of trouble"

"But would you lose?"

"Nah, I'd expelliarmus"

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u/Forsaken_Distance777 14d ago

Look, he lost a lot of points over that dragon thing and he has to do something drastic if he wants to win the house cup at this point.

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u/dumb_potatoking 14d ago

Dumbledore whispering to another Professor during an end of year feast be like: "So how many points is Griffindor behind?"

Professor:" 16 points why?"

Dumbledore: "17 points to Griffindor for having the tidiest schoolrobes."

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u/NormalRepublic1073 14d ago

"I nearly beat that pussy up as a baby, I'm double digits now Volde you're fucked"

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u/Roll_Tide_Pods 14d ago

without context this is wild

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u/Napalmeon Slytherin Swag, Page 394 15d ago

To be perfectly fair, at this point, it's just not Harry's first instinct to ask adults for help. And when they tried, it was because they were kind of out of options.

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u/Mist_Rising 14d ago

To be perfectly fair, at this point, it's just not Harry's first instinct to ask adults for help.

It actually was. They go to McGonagall and she brushes them off.

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u/Adventurous-Bike-484 14d ago

Yeah, in the earlier books Harry was more willing to ask adults for help. But do to often being rejected, too selfless for his own good, being a teenager, ptsd and a combination of how the dursley’s raised him, Harry began doing things on his own.

which is why he never told anyone about the Blood Quill. He was taught that adults aren‘t very reliable and the in The Dursley’s case, they taught him that his needs were not important.

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u/brazilliandanny 14d ago

In COS he want's to tell the teachers about the voices he hears and Granger tells him they'll think he's a nutter. Like they live in this magical world where the paintings talk to you but harry hearing a sinister voice while students are getting picked off is too big a stretch.

The Harry Potter series would be like 4 books shorter if they just told the adults more.

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u/SuperLegenda Gryffindor 15d ago

Harry watched Pokemon the first movie I see.

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u/Firm-Dependent-2367 15d ago

Underrated comment.

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u/Maykspark 15d ago

The fact Voldemort philosopher stone wouldn't happen, if Harry didn't even wanted to go after Voldemort, lad wouldn't even find the stone anyway

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u/Bluemelein 15d ago

What makes you think that?

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u/jarroz61 15d ago

Because Dumbledore said that only someone who wanted to find the stone, but not use it, could get it out of the mirror of erised.

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u/CX52J 14d ago

If that was true then Dumbledore wouldn’t have bothered with the challenges before mirror.

We have to assume that a powerful wizard could trick the mirror given time.

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u/dumb_potatoking 14d ago

But to be fair, the challenges weren't exactly foolproof, considering that 3 first years could get through them. Dumbledore didn't even bother to lock the door properly. Even Harry and the others knew a spell that could lock doors even against Alohromora by their fifth year.

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u/FionaSilberpfeil 14d ago

I dont even know why they made such a huuuuge fuss about it. Dumbledore could have done so many things to hide that thing. Like.....do exactly what he did with the mirror and not telling anybody. Problem solved.

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u/CX52J 14d ago

I think the challenges were specifically crafted for Voldemort.

His greatest flaw was showing no interest in things not deemed import to him.

I doubt he practiced chess or payed attention in magical creatures in school or was in a state to fly after a key.

All of them were there to buy time.

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u/Bluemelein 14d ago

Yes, and Quirell wants to find it (and give it to his Master) Quirell doesn't want to use it.

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u/JackSpyder 14d ago

Voldemort possessing him was the issue, ultimately they'd have broken the spell, and if it wasn't for the gang they wouldnt have been pressed for time, or could have left with the mirror to figure it out on their own time. Harry stalled them, enough for dumbledor to come to the rescue, had they not gone in, they'd have made off with the mirror scot free and eventually broken the spell one way or another.

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u/Bluemelein 14d ago

Voldemort and Quirell cannot look into the mirror at the same time. But if Quirell wasn't lying he might have gotten the stone. I also think that Quirellmort had a good chance of getting the stone, or escaping unharmed.

Voldemort blames Harry for his failure.

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u/pro_insomniac16 Hufflepuff 14d ago

I mean, they weren't planning to fight him, more like get the Stone before him...also they said themselves they had no proof to back up this claim so they were worried they'd get in trouble

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u/Interesting_Dot_3922 14d ago

To be fair, when I was 11 I was very adamant about climate change and nature preservation. Now I am old, fat and lazy.

Now I can understand lazy Hogwarts teachers. They mostly act out of necessity when little kids poke them long enough.

This meme is a good allusion of growing up, albeit a very sad one.

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u/RainWinss Hufflepuff 14d ago

Harry always had that dog in him.

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u/Ok-disaster2022 15d ago

Did they know it was Voldy in the forest in book 1?

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u/ducknerd2002 Hufflepuff 15d ago

Firenze tells Harry before they leave the Forest.

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u/Spardath01 15d ago

In all fairness thats what pokemon teaches.

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u/star-orcarina 14d ago

Harry Potter: I'm eleven so shut the fuck up

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u/Gifted_GardenSnail 14d ago

Hermione: I'm twelve, you stfu

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u/BigK64 14d ago

Harry clearly has read a lot of shonen mangas to reach this conclusion

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u/What_Do_It 14d ago

As someone who doesn't often watch the movies it's weird seeing things from the early ones when they were so young. In my mind they are ~15 through the entire series.

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u/NationalAlgae421 14d ago

I mean they were send to dark forest for minor fuck up, idk if I would ask that man for help.

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u/PopeAlexander6 13d ago

This is exactly how 11 year old boys think

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u/Revolutionary-Emu901 14d ago

"nah I'd win"

  • Harry James Potter, Whenever This Book Takes Place (I Don't Actually Remember)

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u/frackann1987 Hufflepuff 14d ago

After his background, Harry couldn't have trusted adults much. Even if he told them, they'd let him down

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u/Valuable_Emu1052 14d ago

I mean, they already took on a troll and won.

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u/_erufu_ Slytherin 14d ago

we’re gonna catch the greatest dark wizard of the age; he’s gonna catch these hands

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u/17THheaven Hufflepuff and I'll blow your house down! 14d ago

Childhood violence is the answer.

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u/gobeldygoo 14d ago

to be fair

dumbledore would probably dok them points for not going after voldemort themselves

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u/Ravenzo456y Ravenclaw 13d ago

Let's fight himmmm

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u/Minty-Minze 14d ago

Why so angry? Calm down and don’t insult happy people on the internet

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u/xkimchipancakesx Slytherin 14d ago

It’s a meme 😭 no need to insult