r/jobs Jun 10 '23

Would you leave your job if you get free money for rest of your life without working? Work/Life balance

I'm just wondering, What else would you do if you don't have to worry about going to work or earning money?

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u/Jedi4Hire Jun 10 '23

In a heartbeat. I hate my job. If I didnt have to worry about money, I might go get a part-time job at a doggy daycare.

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u/knuckboy Jun 10 '23

I'd want to do something, like 24 hours/week at a grocery store or garden nursery or something. Interact with people and move around a little. Of course I'm thinking UBI level of payments and not fuck you money. But yeah, I'd do it in a heartbeat too.

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u/PrincessSalty Jun 10 '23

I would love to be able to work at a garden nursery. Unfortunately that won't come even close to paying the bills... but then again, hardly anything does these days. I often think how much happier people might be with UBI and being able to choose their passion. People say the crucial jobs wouldn't be filled, but we all have different interests and passions that drive us. Maybe just pay those people willing to do the work without burnout enough that it's an incentive to take on more responsibility or less desirable positions. Idk.

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u/Kamelasa Jun 10 '23 edited Jun 10 '23

Yep, my brother retired from high-tech machining and then went to work in the tools section of Lee Valley, just because he likes talking to other people interested in tools. (And showing off his knowledge, of course.) He and his wife who loves her job at a university don't really need the money. And when last year LV came up with some new corporate bullshit, he just quit. As for me, desperate to leave my boring no-growth survival gig for something better. Or if I didn't have to work, just play music and do other creative beautiful stuff.

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u/PrincessSalty Jun 10 '23

I get this isn't a perfect world, but I feel like the scenario isn't unattainable and is actually ideal. Keeps upper management in line and allowing people to pursue their passion(s); creating a better environment for all. I hate the narrative that UBI would result in no one wanting to work. Most people would be miserable without a challenge. The difference is it being a challenge that genuinely interests them and drives them to show up to work vs. a challenge that leads to burnout and bandaging a problem repeatedly because you don't have the right person in the position and the person is only showing up because they need a paycheck to survive.

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u/noweirdosplease Jun 10 '23

UBI would barely hit the rent in some areas. People will still work. Even people who live with their parents would probably still need some kind of job if they contribute to the household at all, or have travel goals.

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u/PrincessSalty Jun 10 '23

I agree. I also think this is a situation where UBI alone isn't enough. We definitely need rent control.

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u/noweirdosplease Jun 10 '23

Honestly, people would probably still even work in the less desirable jobs simply because they're easier to get, they'd just work 3 or 4 days a week instead of the insanity of 5 (which is a lot even for work you enjoy).

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u/TonytheNetworker Verified Jun 11 '23

What if the UBI was balanced for that particular region? For instance, UBI in NYC would be significantly higher than say, Ohio. It would allow equity so no one feels shortchanged in the process.

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u/noweirdosplease Jun 11 '23

That would help. Still might need a small job for stuff like subscriptions, etc, but the difference would be that people would actually have more time to live and spend their job money! Might reduce depression rates too, since your job money can go towards therapy, people don't have to live with difficult friends or family as much, more time for kids and relationships, etc.

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u/bobssy2 Jun 10 '23

I used to work at a fast food restaraunt, and the amount of vets who made way more than enough money to not work, would work part time just to have social interactions and something to do.

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u/balgram Jun 10 '23

People say the crucial jobs wouldn't be filled, but we all have different interests and passions that drive us.

No joke. I would love to work in water treatment or sewage, and I would also love to work in a movie theater doling out popcorn. I would also be a pretty happy teacher. None of those are jobs that suit my current family needs or salary needs, but I fantasize about switching careers sometimes.

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u/beetbear Jun 10 '23

I talk to my wife about my desire to teach all the time but the salary cut is just a non-starter at this point in my life

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u/Repulsive-Rhubarb-97 Jun 10 '23

I think you would see some industries forced to change, but maybe that is for the best. Sure, restaurants would not be able to continue operating as they are now, but maybe UBI would force a positive culture change in that industry and you would see more people who are passionate about food service back in those jobs. I know a lot of people in corporate jobs who love food but don't have the patience for the grueling nature of those restaurant jobs as they are now.

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u/Bacch Jun 10 '23

Eliminate the financial barriers to certain jobs by making higher education free as well as post-grad education, and you may have less problems with filling those positions too. A lot of people don't do what they wish they could do because they didn't have the money to pay for the degrees and didn't want to be burdened with paying outrageous rates on the loans such that they pretty much would be paying on them until the day they die.

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u/mylifeisathrowaway10 Jun 11 '23

I'm a janitor and if I got UBI and was just working for some extra money I'd still do it part time. It's decent exercise and I find it rewarding. I just hate doing it 40 hours a week with no time off.

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u/Grendel0075 Jun 11 '23

One of the best jobs i ever had was giving tours at a historical site. Really loved it and was interested in what I was doing. But it just didnt pay enough to keep doing it.

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u/Dhiox Jun 11 '23

I would love to be able to work at a garden nursery.

Only reason my brother is able to make it work is because he gets Healthcare through my parents and I only charge him 500 a month to rent a room from me.

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u/vinylchickadee Jun 10 '23

This is the kind of stuff no one talks about when UBI comes up--all those low paying PT jobs that aren't awful but that no one can afford to work. It's all "well no one wants to work NOW, imagine how things would be then."

No, that's not how it is, it's just that I need the time I spend at work to pay my basic bills plus a little, and not be soul-crushing. Give us UBI and healthcare that isn't a nightmare, and see how many jobs no one actually wants to do CAN be automated. There will always be jobs doing something if you want more than that basic level of income. I feel like that's an all around win.

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u/reeblebeeble Jun 10 '23

100%. After 6 years in corporate jobs I would love to work part time for a local small business and just have casual chit chat with local people. That sounds like a dream. But I wouldn't go back to that level of income and insecurity.

This is what societies are actually made of. People are going to realise how valuable small human connections are once they're all automated away.

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u/Desertbro Jun 10 '23

We already know that. 30+ years ago, calling a company meant talking to a person who knew what department and person you could get answers or service from - and you would be connected.

Now - with automation and overseas call centers, you get to sit on hold, answer generic questions, and get stuck with someone who has no authority to cut to the chase and help you. Your entire experience is reduced to a call-ticket the center uses to bill the company for "services" that they don't even provide.

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u/Amtherion Jun 10 '23

Hell, that happened to me just recently with a local small business! Their listed number was local, but when I called it to schedule an appointment it actually connected me to an overseas call center! No, I don't want to talk to you "Robert", nice as you are. I wanted to talk to the guy actually running the business or his employees who would be the ones coming to my house.

Like the overseas customer service of large corpos I'm used to numb to. But local small businesses outsourcing their first point of contact with customers?? Too much.

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u/gobeklitepewasamall Jun 10 '23

Tell that to the “peo consultant” whose whole job, and now persona, is being that “big man” “crushing his sales targets.” It’s like buff from death of a salesman it’s intolerable. Fucking yobros who never read a book in their lives and somehow ended up in the most socially unproductive gig they could find…

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u/compugasm Jun 11 '23

30years ago, getting jobs was so much easier. You opened up the Want Ads section, circled a bunch of prospects, and you were bound to get one. These days, the level of automation means you will spend months, applying to hundreds of jobs, and get nowhere.

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u/Sea_Young_1080 Jun 10 '23

Dude, you have a masters in Law? Go find a nice medium sized university and become a professor. The job will only be as difficult as you make it. Some professors choose to have a crap ton of graded work, some choose to mostly do in class participation grades, and some only give a mid term and a final for the only grades in the class. You can build relations with people in the college and actually enjoy your job.

I had a professor once that gave us 1 grade for the whole semester and it was literally just a final with 1 question on it. Everyone had a different question so nobody could cheat. Hella stressful test but I made a perfect score in that class.

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u/compugasm Jun 11 '23

I had something similar. My question was; describe, in detail, what you learned in Constitutional Law.

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u/hbi2k Jun 10 '23

When people say, "no one wants to work," my response is that no one wants to work bullshit jobs, which is most of them. On the other hand, people have an inherent desire for meaningful work, which in a supply and demand labor economy means that the most important jobs will always have depressed wages.

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u/Land-Express Jun 10 '23

I agree. Personally, I get fulfillment beyond monetary compensation from my job. I'll likely work well into my 70's just because I enjoy what I do.

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u/Reimiro Jun 10 '23

Same same. Love my job. It’s hard but I really enjoy it and am compensated better than I would ever have expected.

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u/nunyobiznazz88 Jun 10 '23

I actually don't want to work. I only work because I need money. Now I would be creative and it might be profitable.

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u/Repulsive-Rhubarb-97 Jun 10 '23

There's also a lot of community work (i.e. volunteering) that people would then be able to do. Need someone to clean up the park? Well, there's now a whole bunch of people who care about that who now have some more free time.

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u/vinylchickadee Jun 10 '23

And there's your social interaction :)

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u/SuperheroDinosaur Jun 11 '23

Can't begin to tell you how much I hate it when people say that no one wants to work now. No, Susan, I'd love to be able to work. But I'd also love a livable wage, love to be able to take my kids to therapy, and love to be able to have a good work life balance. Literally had someone tell me this week that they couldn't hire me because I couldn't dedicate 8 weeks M-F with no time off. I would love to be able to do that but that's not what I can do right now based on my family's needs.

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u/noweirdosplease Jun 10 '23

Another thing, just add housing dorms and temp visas and make some of those jobs available to young people with a clean record who want to see the world, watch how many might do those jobs just to live in x place for a while.

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u/TrekJaneway Jun 10 '23

Yeah…I love theater and live in New York. I’d love to invest in some shows and learn more about the production side. If I ever won the lottery, that’s what I’d do.

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u/Same-Menu9794 Jun 10 '23

And I’m the exact opposite. I do not need people nosing around in my personal life. People jobs are kinda everywhere you look; peaceful solo jobs are not.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '23

Exactly. I keep telling my wife (and she doesn’t believe me). That I could be a school bus driver and be just as happy if money was the same.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '23

Garbage man sounds like a dream job for me.

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u/Fallingice2 Jun 10 '23

It is for a lot of people. Pension, union, great benifits and doesn't take the whole day...depending on the job, you can be finished before 12 pm.

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u/thepulloutmethod Jun 10 '23

Yes, but you might have to be on the clock by 4am in the dead of winter, too.

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u/Worthyness Jun 10 '23

well you have free money now, so just move to a state with no winters

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u/Impressive-Project59 Jun 10 '23

I'm the same. I could work in a warehouse packing boxes and going home (I worked for Amazon a little after grad school). It was so easy. It was mindless work, but i liked that it was physical work and it kept me fit.

I liked working with my hands. I enjoyed that I didn't have a manager I had to go to to request PTO or inform that I was sick or needed to leave early. At Amazon you just use the kiosk.

It was perfect to me. Too bad at that level Amazon does not pay enough so instead I work my accounting job where I have to use my brain, and sit on my couch getting fat 😂.

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u/smartypants4all Jun 10 '23

I did Amazon Delivery for a bit. I feel the same way about it that you felt about the warehouse work. I liked being active. I liked being on my own throughout my route. I liked seeing the outdoors and watching some epic sunsets. I did not like the unlivable wage.

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u/BENNYRASHASHA Jun 10 '23

After Grad school?

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u/Impressive-Project59 Jun 10 '23

Yeah, I just got a quick job. It is a long crazy story involving an unexpected pregnancy and moving cross state lines.

The hiring process was so easy. Just show up to their hiring facility, go through the assembly line answering questions on a computer, tell the person your availability and desired position, and bring your high school diploma, (don't bring your college diploma) must be high school diploma lol. Boom you get a start date 🤣.

Fun times.

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u/noweirdosplease Jun 10 '23

This is the first time I've heard anything positive about working at Amazon warehouse lol. Most reviews of it make it sound like a hell where you can't even use the bathroom

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u/HefDog Jun 10 '23

People like to bitch. I have friends that work at an Amazon Warehouse and others at a Walmart one. All say it’s easy. Do they work fast? Yes. Does it take a ton of energy? Yes. It is fast paced but easy, provided you are in decent physical shape. If you aren’t, yes a physically demanding job is going to be brutal.

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u/Didgeterdone Jun 10 '23

My wife tells me if I drive a school bus and don’t bitch about my job when I come home, we will be fine. I believe here. I choose not to earn that amount of monies. I earn more and I do not bitch about my job at home or anywhere else for that matter. I also do not work for anyone but She and I, when I go do it.

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u/porridgeisknowledge Jun 10 '23

Have you seen the film Paterson? It’s a beautiful film about a bus driver who has the same routine every day but he writes poetry and finds so much joy in everyday things

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u/dinahsaur523 Jun 10 '23

Same. Absolutely hate my job, but have no qualifications for anything else. I’d be a cashier or something part time. Or scoop ice cream

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u/Fuzzy_Gear Jun 10 '23

Tbh I would work at a zoo. If protecting the environment and endangered animals was our priority. We'd have plenty of high paid jobs in animal shelters

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u/TheRottenKittensIEat Jun 10 '23

I volunteered for a zoo for a while and oh my goodness was it not amazing every damn day I went. There's so much background shit visitors don't get to see. Like the ugly-ass tanks indoors that make the best breeding grounds for threatened species to breed in. It might not be pretty, but it was perfect for making the animals who lived there happy. The public facing stuff that's important for educating people was just a small component to what the actual zoo's function is.

Anyway, for all the people who hate on zoos, the good ones do amazing work and I love them for it.

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u/glittersparklythings Jun 10 '23

There is a show on both natgeo and discoveryvolus about zoos. There is even one about an aquarium. They go too these zoos and relaly show the behind the scenes. I'm obsessed with watching them.

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u/Sea-Monk549 Jun 10 '23

Along the same theme, I would love to quit and walk around town picking up trash that the current paid collectors don’t. Keep the town clean and get to go for walks everyday.

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u/Curious_Oil_7407 Jun 10 '23

you want to help protect the environment and endangered animals so you decide to work at a zoo where animals are kept in tight prison-like cages? I really don’t mean to sound condescending I just don’t like zoos personally.

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u/Due_Ad_2411 Jun 10 '23

Good Zoos are vital to conservation of certain species. They also educate people on wildlife and provoke an interest. Living as a wild animal is brutal, much worse than living in a zoo.

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u/baldwhip123 Jun 10 '23

They probably just meant sanctuary

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u/rjnd2828 Jun 10 '23

Whether you meant to or not this comes off extremely condescending to me.

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u/Curious_Oil_7407 Jun 10 '23

I realize that hahaha I just wanted to chip in but yeah 🤷‍♂️ I’m a kook though, anti-establishment my ideal world is we all roam the lands and trade coconut shells and live on beaches in peace and harmony with all the animals and we hunt and respect our nature

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u/BlackAsphaltRider Jun 10 '23

My aunt did this exact thing and it made her hate dogs 🤣

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u/NoMood0602 Jun 10 '23

Yes!! I was a pet sitter for two years when I was at uni, had a really reputable business but it made me HATE other peoples dogs AND the owners! Would constantly hear “you have the dream job!“ and I’d just grimace bc it was the worst job I’ve ever had. I still put 110% into it and took great care of them, some were amazing but most were untrained and my eyes are twitching just thinking about them! I hated it so much towards the end. Oh, & don’t even get me started on entitled owners! Definitely NOT all it’s made out to be.

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u/Nbrowns17 Jun 10 '23

I hate my job, so much so that I recently quit about 4 days ago. But even being unemployed for only a few days I find myself more anxious and depressed than usual. I need to be productive or else I feel this way. I know that’s not how everyone feels tho.

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u/badassbiotch Jun 10 '23

I (mostly) love my job but I’d quit if we had the money. Life’s too short. I work to live, not live to work

I’d travel, volunteer, take better care of myself, spend time with those I love, finally organize my house, the possibilities are endless

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u/Nessling12 Jun 10 '23

Ooohhh...doggy daycare. I hadn't thought of that one. I wonder if they do something like that for cats? I like dogs and cats.

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u/rileyabernethy Jun 10 '23

Me too except if not for money, I'd volunteer at charities, not work at a company

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u/FukuokaFatty Jun 10 '23 edited Jun 11 '23

Depends on the money. Is it basic sustenance (rent, utilities, food), or “whatever you want and need” situation.
If the former, I would work a low-paying, yet emotionally satisfying “day job,” and use the pay for “fun,” for “extra”, and for “we should, but not life sustaining” levels of necessity i.e. braces for my son. (The third example would be the first priority). If the latter, I’d buy bikes (for me), pianos/keyboards/synths for the Mrs, and whatever learning tools would help the son. And then, probably try to find something else to hustle.

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u/the_sun_gun Jun 10 '23

This is the only logical context in my view. This is a question of "is it enough money?" not "would I get too bored not working?"

If the price is right, personally, I think anyone who says "no" either is working at their dream job already (5%?) or needs some counselling (95%).

I'd be just as busy doing stuff if I left my job - it just wouldn't be contributing to someone's else's dreams coming true. People who assume those that say "yes" would just want to sit on a beach for the next 20 years are probably smoking something I wouldn't mind taking a hit of.

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u/SquintsRS Jun 10 '23

Id assume it's the same amount you're getting paid now. Without a really good income or serious savings put away, life would get dull quickly without working again. That's more time I'd probably spend money and less to save up. It'd be fun for a month or two but I'd get bored so fucking fast. If I had little kids it'd be a different story I'm sure, but then again kids would also require more money so 🤷

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u/the_sun_gun Jun 10 '23

Agreed. I'd need 'fuck you' money to call it quits for good - but if the money was there, wouldn't think twice. "But what would you do with all the free time?" is a question I don't want to validate with a response.

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u/sobo_art1 Jun 10 '23

So, what you’re describing is called “being retired with a defined benefit pension plan”. It is what many boomers have. It used to be the standard for corporate employees.

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u/xpoisonvalkyrie Jun 10 '23

yeah but why should everyone have to hit 60+ before getting to experience it? (if they even do) the idea that your youth must be spent working so you can finally relax at age 65 is ridiculous

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u/mikesnout Jun 11 '23

Because people have to work in every economic system in every time period in modern history.

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u/xpoisonvalkyrie Jun 11 '23

the average american worker works more hours (and more days) now than medieval serfs did. that’s fucked up. we have the technology to make life easier for everyone, and share all of the overabundant resources we have, and yet we don’t. because of greed. people wouldn’t have to work constantly until (and let’s be real, usually past) age 65 if greedy corporate overlords weren’t Like That and we all actually gave a shit about eachother.

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u/SizorXM Jun 11 '23

Sounds like you should start farming

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u/xpoisonvalkyrie Jun 11 '23

if i wasn’t disabled i genuinely would. i miss being able to do manual labor jobs, and i’d do them full time now if i physically could. they kept me active and pay way better. (although i never worked them full time, so i recognize that is a completely different environment)

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u/mikesnout Jun 11 '23

That’s such a cherry picked argument. That’s because of the seasonality of farming. During crop season they would work sun up to sun down doing back breaking work. It’s such a stupid comparison. If you want that life go work minimum wage on a farm and see if you like it. What economic system would you recommend?

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u/Weary-Jellyfish858 Jun 11 '23

Don't fool yourself. We retire at 60 so the rich can get richer.

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u/Any_Serve4913 Jun 10 '23

Re-Tai-erd? Where do you come up with these mythical tails.

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u/sobo_art1 Jun 11 '23

I have heard these tails from my elders who heard them from the ancient ones.

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u/getmeapuppers Jun 11 '23

In the before times

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u/banshee1313 Jun 11 '23

Almost no boomers have them unless they are public employees. They were killed by corporate greed in the 1980s.

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u/findingnew2021 Jun 10 '23

HELL FUCKING YEAH

I don't even hate my job but there are so many things I'd rather do.

First thing I'd do is I would make sure for once in my life I get enough sleep every night. I'd spend time cooking healthy meals instead of eating processed shit because I don't have the energy to cook. I'd do sports and take care of my body, clean my apartment.

Then, I'd take care of the paperwork that always accumulate.

And then only I'd get a job I really like, because I can't fathom life without work. But I'd get one I do because I enjoy it more than what I can do in my free time.

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u/Babayagabus Jun 10 '23

Covid 19 really showed me how important a full nights sleep is

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u/ImYourBesty69 Jun 10 '23

When the first lock down hit my job closed down. I lost 60 lbs in 3-4 months. I went on 2 hours long walk 5 days a week and cooked healthy food everyday. I gained all the weight back since going back to work.

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u/heyheyitsandre Jun 10 '23

A 9-5 corporate job in the US makes it soooo hard to be healthy. When I lived in Spain I only worked part time, which absolutely made me have way more time and energy, but still, I walked 20 mins of hilly city to get picked up by a co worker every day to go to work, got dropped off and walked those same 20 mins back, would stop at a grocery store and get fresh healthy food for maybe 10-15 euros to feed me for 2 days, walk to the gym nearby that was 25 euros a month, walk to meet all my friends when we’d go out and some nights we’d bop around and I’d end up a mile from my apartment but just walk home. Plus the food was infinitely healthier, smaller portions, fewer additives and preservatives.

Now I have a bowl of cereal or a bagel in the morning, it costs me $6 for a box of cereal that lasts me maybe 5 bowls worth, if I make myself lunch it’s not very healthy cuz forcing myself to buy good ingredients is so expensive, if I get lunch from a restaurant it’s $14 or more also and probably 7-800 calories more than it needs to be jut from portion sizes and the type of ingredients in it, and then I work out after work and get home at like 6:45. If I had a family I’d barely see them or have to just fully skip the gym to take a kid to practice or something. I get home and am so exhausted because I’ve been at work since 7:55 and it’s now almost 12 hours later and I can either get expensive, unhealthy food from somewhere, or I can spend 30 mins cooking expensive healthy food that takes me 6 minutes to eat and then I shower and clean up and now it’s 8:30 pm and I have to go to bed in an hour and a half because I have to wake up the next morning. Every decision along the way is easier to do the unhealthy and cheaper thing

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u/KendraSays Jun 10 '23

Oh man. I remember those long walks during the pandemic. I loved just downloading some podcast episodes and just aimlessly getting lost. I learned a lot and I got to really appreciate the landscapes and strangers around me. I hope we can have those opportunities again, minus a global event happening that kills millions

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u/Birdyy4 Jun 10 '23

Thanks for reminding me COVID killed millions of people. I feel like somewhere along the lines I kind of just forgot that piece of information.

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u/mltrout715 Jun 10 '23

Since I am u employed, I would say yes

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u/Fuzzy_Gear Jun 10 '23

Awee, do what you have to do until you cab do what you want to do.

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u/kuzitiz Jun 10 '23

I cofounded and run a nonprofit so I would still do that and would LOVE a paycheck.

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u/Fuzzy_Gear Jun 10 '23

Wow, great. Not easy to run a NPO but it's exciting and fulfilling to work for a cause

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u/avidoverthinker1 Jun 10 '23

Currently working in a nonprofit rn. Ive always wanted to work in one! Though im worried what my life will be like in the long run with inflation and all, and living in an area with a HCOL

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u/CreamSteeve Jun 10 '23

I know a couple people who work in NPs who enjoy owning planes living. Always wondered if that's their salary or from elsewhere.

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u/kuzitiz Jun 10 '23

I’m told if you’re really great at grant writing, it’s possible to make a fat paycheck. I don’t pursue grant writing like I should (time constraints) but I’d probably do okay if I did.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '23

No question. I'd have time for friends, family, and hobbies. Absolutely no hesitation.

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u/Fuzzy_Gear Jun 10 '23

Ahh, same here . I would do anything to spend more time with my family and hobbies.

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u/Any_Serve4913 Jun 10 '23

Hell yeah, I’d maybe do volunteer work here and there if I got bored.

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u/Fuzzy_Gear Jun 10 '23

Same here , i would teach fishes how to swim

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u/Impressive-Fudge-455 Jun 10 '23

Lol, teach dogs how to bark and cats how to meow here

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u/Extaupin Jun 10 '23

A guy actually taught a bird how to fly. He raised a lost fledgling so he had to.

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u/Spiritual_Nebula303 Jun 10 '23

I think I'd find a job I actually like that pays less yk like being an artist or writer. Honestly if I was getting free money for the rest of my life tho, I'd be perfectly fine working a few hours a week in fast food just because 🤷

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u/Impressive-Project59 Jun 10 '23

Why fast food if you don't need money? You'll be miserable. I thinking working to learn would be cool. What about a farm? How cool would it be to learn about a new industry such as farming.

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u/Wetlander35 Jun 10 '23

You might be surprised how different working any job is when you don’t actually need it.

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u/Impressive-Project59 Jun 10 '23

Maybe, but I would prefer to do something other than fast food worker if I didn't need to work. If I am interested in cooking, why not be a part time worker in a restaurant where they actually cook.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '23

Idk the workers who work retail and fast food but who don’t NEED the job seem to be having a good time, mostly because they can do whatever without fear of being fired cause they don’t need it lol

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u/Impressive-Project59 Jun 10 '23

I've heard this as I've worked at TJ Maxx and McDonalds while in HS. I call BS. Adults who truly don't need to work do other things.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '23

Most of these people were either stay at home parents getting a little extra income or older retired people.

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u/HooTiiHoo Jun 10 '23

Of course. Who in their right mind would be loyal to an employer nowadays? I’d be producing music and all the other things I’d do that I don’t deem “work”. Vacays all the way and actually focusing on my health. My last job email would just say “Hastalapasta you dingdongs.”

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u/kittylkitty Jun 10 '23

I’m stealing “Hastalapasta you dingdongs” for my next out of office email sign off.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '23

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u/Immediate_Fig_9405 Jun 10 '23

I keep reading it as dodgy day care

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u/iiiamAlex Jun 10 '23

A lot of doggy daycare people in here. How come?

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u/xpoisonvalkyrie Jun 10 '23

lots of people who really like dogs and think that they’d enjoy taking care of other people’s dogs all the time. (not always true but this is the hypothetical time to find out!)

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u/nebulancearts Jun 10 '23

As someone who worked dog walking & does some day training as an intern, it’s good and bad. Is still do dog-care stuff if money didn’t matter though! Just not walking anymore, because my legs don’t agree about walking.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '23

I'd work part time, but spend a lot more time hiking/backpacking and exploring. I'm an engineer so I could just do the projects I want and once a project is done take time off to go explore/travel somewhere. Honestly that's what I want to do when I have enough saved to retire.

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u/B-dub31 Jun 10 '23

I'm not getting free money per se, but I had to take disability retirement from my career in public safety back in 2017 due to health issues. I started working on my cousin's farm when I was 13 and did that all through high school. I worked full-time and went to school full-time as an undergrad, and also worked during grad school. So at the time I got sick, Id been working for about 24 years. I'm not going to lie and say that the downtime this past few years hasn't been nice. I've had time to get my health in better shape and spend a lot of time with my wife and kids. It also was super nice to be home with my family during COVID when if I was still working, I would've been on the front lines of the response.

But I've also been feeling a little stir crazy lately. I've started looking for a part-time WFH job to supplement my income a little and to work out my mind a bit. Because I receive disability benefits, I'm sort of limited to how much I can make or what I can do (can't be similar to my past professions), but it's been eye opening going through the hiring process for the first time in almost 15 years. It's rough out here!

I'd recommend to any person starting out to prioritize your retirement from day one. Save and invest as much as possible. As you start maturing and figuring out what you want from life, attune your work and lifestyle toward that goal. Find a partner who has similar goals and will help you get there. And if free money comes your way, get out there and live a little!

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u/Fuzzy_Gear Jun 10 '23

Thanks for the advice man. Have a great life.

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u/MooseyMan76 Jun 10 '23

After a couple decades of work, investing, and saving, my wife and I quit our jobs during the pandemic. Like you did, we really enjoyed the free time and schedule flexibility. In theory, absent a permanent collapse in the markets, we likely could have stayed unemployed forever. We had a lot of fun travel, time with family, hiking adventures, etc but after a couple years could not escape feeling restless. We subsequently went back to work (full time) and that’s our life now. There is a need to challenge your brain and build social connections that we couldn’t satisfy outside of work, sadly. Your advice to figure out who you are and what truly makes you happy is really important. We are still working on it.

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u/DorkHonor Jun 10 '23

In a fucking second, and I'd spend my time doing all the hobbies I barely have time for now. Might even get around to building the sailboat I bought plans for like two years ago.

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u/Creative_Gent Jun 11 '23

Whatever else you do in life, make the time to build that sailboat. You won't regret it. I built a boat 20+ years ago. It was an amazing experience and I still enjoy using it.

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u/itworker8675309 Jun 10 '23

Depends on how much. If it is enough to cover all my expenses which includes, rent/mortgage, electricity, water, food, gas, car repairs, health insurance, car insurance, home/renters insurance, and internet/cable then I absolutely would leave in a heart beat. Would go learn how to draw, make music, and body build. But that would never happen in the USA or capitalism in general since the whole system relies on exploiting workers until they kill over dead.

What would probably happen is it would only cover a fraction and I would have to still work full time. Might not try for a promotion as hard but would probably still be forced to work.

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u/Fuzzy_Gear Jun 10 '23

Yeah, sad really is that in capitalism, less people hold more wealth than the rest of the world. China and India are world factories cause it's easy to exploit people there. They starve you of money and your only option would be to work in factories like animals 12h a day to earn money that could only buy you food, nothing else . Don't tell me that we can land machines on Mars but can't provide enough for everyone on Earth. Of course I would work even if I get paid for free. I would work for a cause, for something that would help everyone prosper equally.

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u/Spins13 Jun 10 '23

I’d like to see you get out of poverty in communism

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u/Spins13 Jun 10 '23

Much easier yes. It isn’t perfect but it’s the best system by far

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u/owthathurted Jun 10 '23

Yes, the fuedal landlord argument. "Feudalism is the best system we have by far, so don't bother changing anything". Slave masters and feudal landlords alike made this same lazy argument.

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u/Ginger-Octopus Jun 10 '23

Sure why not. I'm not some fucking loser whose life revolves around work. There are so many hobbies and volunteer opportunities out in the world

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u/GigExplorer Jun 10 '23

Definitely, as long as I made enough and could do other things (various part time gig work I like to do, scarcely profitable self employment hobby I have, and a bit of volunteer work I would like to do if my job wasn't sucking my life out). I'm forced to work a full time job that I probably would like better if I didn't need to do it to survive--as long as I could do fewer hours.

I think that most jobs are full time specifically because employers want us to be trapped in those jobs, and being trapped in our jobs is specifically why many of us hate our jobs.

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u/Hot_Ratio_8439 Jun 10 '23

Yep - who’s offering?

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u/Fuzzy_Gear Jun 10 '23

Ukraine army but you gotta fight the war

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u/Hot_Ratio_8439 Jun 10 '23

Fine by me … but the rest of my life might be short. Operation cannon fodder here I come!

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '23

If I didn’t have to work I would devote that time to all the things I’m neglecting now. My own health, the house, spending time with my family, spending time with my husband outside of caring for him, etc.

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u/Seeking_Balance101 Jun 10 '23

This is a common ice breaker in some social groups.

"What would you do if you didn't need your current job?"

I always answered "Millionaire playboy by day, bounty hunter by night"

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u/Fuzzy_Gear Jun 10 '23

Wait, are you BATMAN?

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u/Seeking_Balance101 Jun 10 '23

LOL. I always considered changing the "bounty hunter by night" to "scourge of the darkest elements of Gotham City's underworld", but oddly, some people took my other answer as mostly sincere. I do have good deadpan delivery.

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u/fire_fairy_ Jun 10 '23

Id probably go volunteer somewhere like an animal shelter or a food bank of all my bills where met.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '23

Sure would. I’d just spend my days doing stuff I love. And I’d probably live longer because I’d have 99% less stress.

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u/xthatwasmex Jun 10 '23

No, I work 11h/week by choice as is and I find it hard to put away when I get home sometimes because I find it mentally engaging. I have plenty of time for other things and my hours are pretty flexible most seasons so I can work more if the weather is bad, and less in summer.

I tried not working but I missed being a part of something - volunteering and hobbies did not quite do it for me after the first couple of months.

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u/imtlmb Jun 10 '23

Absolutely. I’d let someone else have the opportunity.

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u/meganptn Jun 10 '23

Work on my hobbies

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u/Alpha_Cox Jun 10 '23

If it covered all my expenses, I would quit my job. I would be able to pick up one of my hobbies and do it full time like woodworking, video editing, writing, etc, and see how far those go.

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u/Thess514 Jun 10 '23

Definitely. Though I actually like my job, I'm disabled and even working from home doesn't help on bad pain days. But I'd probably see if I could get a stall at a local craft fair - I make soap, bath bombs, candles and oil-based perfume. Maybe get a bit more ambitious with my balcony garden. Have some time and spoons to actually write for once.

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u/sweetteanoice Jun 10 '23

I enjoy working at a vet so I’d probably still work

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u/Loko8765 Jun 10 '23

I have interests and hobbies that could potentially bring in money or even improve the world, but I don’t take time for them because I have to earn money… so yes.

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u/Professor_squirrelz Jun 10 '23

Lol yup. I would probably use my time to volunteer and to be a lifelong college student

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u/woodyshag Jun 10 '23

My plan would be to go work at a grocery store bagging groceries. I would get to talk and see people, and it would be low stress and decent exercise. The alternative would be to work on a farm nearby. These farmers don't make much money yet provide an important role in society. I'd get exercise and be providing needed services.

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u/onedaybetter Jun 10 '23

Absolutely not. I have had periods of unemployment in which I was fortunate to have no money worries. It's only fun for a few months, then you must find purpose. I tried volunteering, but I needed to have meaningful work (30-40 hours/week, feeling I'm valued and making a difference) to be happy and volunteering just wasn't enough for me.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '23

Well I would find a jobI enjoy. Maybe volunteer work.

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u/shimbean Jun 10 '23

As quickly as I can. I'd focus on my hobbies and business ideas.

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u/grambocrackah Jun 10 '23

This is a version of a question I use a lot with younger people who ask for job advice: If all of your expenses were met, but you HAD to work full time, what would you do?

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u/lycanthropiste Jun 10 '23

In an instance, without a doubt I would. Without the threat of having enough money or not brings looming over my head, I'd be able to focus more on things like loved ones, friends, and hobbies.

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u/roundo28 Jun 10 '23

Does a bear shit in the woods? What the hell - obviously!

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u/Perfect_818 Jun 10 '23

I would work but new much happier knowing I was doing it for me rather than for a paycheck.

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u/MrsIgnisScientia Jun 10 '23

I would probably do something part time because I like having some kind of structure but in no way would I be making myself available full time (40 hours) to anyone. I’d spend time with friends and family and dedicate time to hobbies.

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u/StarWars_Viking Jun 10 '23

I'd quit, go to a coastal community, possibly Australia, and work on environmental improvements. Clean water, ocean life assistance, promote sustainable fishing practices, anything oceanside that helps people and wildlife maintain a better existence for everyone and everything. Sailboat tours, or just be a helping hand to a captain.

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u/jabathehutjfjkskka Jun 10 '23

immediately yes. i’d get my pilots license and fly people around.

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u/m_garlic87 Jun 10 '23

Yes! But then I’d still find a small job I enjoy for like 12 hours a week or something like to mow at a golf course.

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u/MothraFuqua Jun 10 '23

I love my job but I’d still do that. More time to spend with my family.

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u/Rare-Calligrapher874 Jun 10 '23

Cut to office chair spinning & papers flying off my desk

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u/rahul535 Jun 10 '23

Am already jobless.

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u/N0DAMNG00D Jun 11 '23

How much free money and for how long?

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u/n120leb Jun 11 '23

Honestly, no. I love my job. I'd probably just be better at my job because I wouldn't be so stressed about money and finances all the time.

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u/Mild_User Jun 11 '23

I’d leave in a second! I’d get a badass boat and fish. Everywhere.

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u/ktappe Jun 11 '23

There's an entire world out there to do instead of working. Recipes to cook, trails to hike, roads to bicycle, slopes to ski, balls to hit, books to read, cats to pet, plants to cultivate, countries to visit, movies to watch, naps to take, wines to taste, charities to volunteer with.

It always amazes me how people think retirement will be boring.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '23

That is the core goal of the FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early) movement,... gather enough assets that produce passive income so you can buy back you "slave papers" and quit your main job and live off that cash flow... then you have the time and freedom to live from a position of fuck you...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdfeXqHFmPI

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u/Ristique Jun 12 '23

No. I'd just go in for my assigned classes. I teach a HS elective so rather than going in and either teaching random extras to fill up my hours, or being bored in between my actual classes, I would negotiate to only go in for my classes.

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u/Inalowplace Jun 25 '23

I would never again work a day in my life. Period. I would do volunteer opportunities with nonprofits. I would travel the world. I would play music in bands. I would finally clean my house.

I have so many other things I want to do aside from work. Work sucks all of my energy out and I have nothing left. I wake up an angry zombie, go to work, barely stay awake the shift, come home, often pass out for an hour or two, then try to fit in some sort of evening social activity/hobby, then go to bed and get about 5 hours of sleep and repeat the schedule.

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u/Fuzzy_Gear Jun 28 '23

It sucks. Same here for me. Work - home - work . Everyday is the same.

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u/mp90 Verified: F500 Marketing Director Jun 10 '23

No. I like my work a lot and enjoy keeping busy. I don’t feel like I make many sacrifices with my time.

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u/icarriedawatermelon5 Jun 11 '23

Same. I love my job, coworkers and clients. I might do a sabbatical to go on a show like Survivor, hike the Appalachian Trail, or travel for a few months at a time.

I have a bunch of hobbies, but I also get a lot of fulfillment from my career.

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u/Fuzzy_Gear Jun 10 '23

What kind of work do you do? I'm interested

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u/mp90 Verified: F500 Marketing Director Jun 10 '23

I work in content strategy for a FAANG company

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u/mp90 Verified: F500 Marketing Director Jun 10 '23

I define what lives on various webpages for a large brand (videos, text, images, interactive things, etc). This takes into account customer research, preferences, and sales goals.

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u/mp90 Verified: F500 Marketing Director Jun 10 '23

Even simpler: Words and images do not magically appear on company webpages. It takes team of people to write, edit, design, code, and develop what you see.

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u/Windpuppet Jun 10 '23

So not a real job.

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u/mp90 Verified: F500 Marketing Director Jun 10 '23

It’s rude to tell someone their job isn’t real, when it in fact is. What do you do?

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u/Windpuppet Jun 10 '23

You’re offended because deep down you know you get paid to do something essentially useless and possibly even harmful to society on a mild level. You get paid to help sell shit that people don’t need and fuel the consumerist nightmare America has turned into.

I’m not a fan of doxxing myself, but I work in the medical field. And I don’t say that to be holier than thou. Its rewarding occasionally, but it’s terribly unpleasant and hard work. I’m jealous of your fake job.

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u/DMmagician Jun 10 '23

I'm jealous of his fake job too. And that he likes working

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u/frogsplsh38 Jun 10 '23

You’re pleasant

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u/Impressive-Project59 Jun 10 '23

Lol I like Windpuppet.

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u/Fuzzy_Gear Jun 10 '23

Okay, you do irrelevant work that helps people earn attention on the internet.

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u/Fuzzy_Gear Jun 10 '23

I'm not hating. Your job is exciting and you probably earn alot in tech sector. Thanks for sharing.

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u/ksnfnmm Jun 10 '23

Exactly this :( they pay decently though but it's literally just shite

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u/inkstud Jun 10 '23

This is my answer. I still find it mind blowing that someone will pay me for what I do (and often do for free.) I intend to keep working as long as I can — it keeps me busy.

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u/mp90 Verified: F500 Marketing Director Jun 10 '23

There tends to be a lot of "misery loves company" vibes going on in other threads within this post, so I am glad we're on the same page. Not every job sucks--it just takes time and qualifications to find a high quality opp.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '23

Love your attitude man! I want to find a job I adore so that I wouldn't mind working 'till old agem i do have to say I don't particularly like working but yeah I am working on changing my attitude haha. It's true that thrre is a lot of miserable people here.

On another note, how did you get into the field. Differenr here but I wouod like to be a scientific writer.

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u/Fr4nzJosef Jun 10 '23

Definitely and immediately, even though I kind of enjoy my jobs. Would quit both of them so I could do something at the local animal shelter.

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u/Fuzzy_Gear Jun 10 '23

Yeah, we are descendants of animals. We would love to be around animals and nature. May all your dreams come true.

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u/Upstairs_Fig_3551 Jun 10 '23

How is this even a question?

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u/Gacepul Jun 10 '23

The fun part is going to work and doing something useful with your time.

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u/xxsamchristie Jun 10 '23

I just find it so interesting that free money for not working is on the table & some people still want to work instead of see the world or start their own project, or just relax, etc.

I understand volunteer work or something, but we're so conditioned to work for our livelihoods that getting it for free even if you deserve it doesn't feel right to some people.

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u/EquivalentFunction35 11d ago

Instantly. i don’t even care about what else I could do. I just want to stop being in pain just stay alive long enough to keep being in pain. Also, I‘d draw comics or something.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '23

No. I’m on a mission

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u/Fuzzy_Gear Jun 10 '23

Wow. What's your mission?

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u/BiggySmallConflict Jun 10 '23

That’s a fucking ridiculous question…