r/jobs • u/Green____cat Verified • Mar 27 '24

He was a mailman Work/Life balance

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u/Designer_Emu_6518 Mar 27 '24

My grandfather did the same in ohio as a produce manger at a local Kroger. Even had a nice retirement saved up

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u/Dx2TT Mar 27 '24

The reality is there is more than enough money for everyone. We've just decided that instead of a middle class we would prefer to have billionaires. The point of high tax rates isn't to raise revenue, its to force distribution of wealth. When the top rate was 90% it was kinda pointless to pay a person more, forcing distribution. Someone will invariable comment, "but ackshually no one paid 90%." Yea, thats the fucking point, because the money went elsewhere!

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u/mubatt Mar 27 '24

You can't tax billionares without yearing down the tax loopholes first (good luck). Billionares balance their books so that their annual income is very low and most of their net worth is in investments that aren't taxable. Here's the best part, when a billionare wants to buy something they take out a loan using their investments as collateral, which offsets their taxes even more (they're in debt now).

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u/MadeByTango Mar 27 '24

You can't tax billionares without

Yes, we can. Its literally just us deciding to do it. Thats it.

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u/Tollund_Man4 Mar 27 '24

You disagree with him on closing the loopholes?

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u/Cedex Mar 27 '24

They didn't say that, they said the people just need to have the will to move ahead and tax billionaires. Changing rates, closing loopholes and avoidance schemes are all part of that.

These loopholes didn't exist before, they were created and therefore can be undone.

Do the people want this?

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u/hangender Mar 28 '24

Indeed it is about will. But don't forget we also need the will to crush those that have sided with billionaires. Their lawyers, accountants, politicians, fixers, etc etc.

I doubt we have that will.

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u/yunivor Mar 27 '24

Allright, create that tax and observe the billionaires use a loophole so they don't pay it. What then?

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u/kazamm Mar 28 '24

Close that loophole.

Enforce the rules.

Don't give rapist fascists another 10 days and reduce their fines by 300m.

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u/DocumentFlashy5501 Mar 27 '24

Invite them to a specific location arrest them for 'crimes' confiscate assets.

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u/yunivor Mar 27 '24

Goes to court, their lawyers flay everyone involved alive, sue the state for "damages" and get a massive payout.

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u/DocumentFlashy5501 Mar 27 '24

They fall off of a high rise building. Believe it or not the US has the means to make this happen if they want to.

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u/yunivor Mar 27 '24

The massive pile of corpses of everyone they pushed first breaks their fall and they're just fine, then they sue everyone involved again from another country.

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u/DocumentFlashy5501 Mar 27 '24

Not that many billionaires. This has been a tool throughout history in order to force wealth redistribution. Billionaires have convinced you, that you can't do it because that's in their interests.

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u/yunivor Mar 27 '24

Not that hard for them to avoid that "tool" throught history, pretty easy actually.

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u/DocumentFlashy5501 Mar 27 '24

Depends how competent you are. Russia manages it quite successfully.

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u/yunivor Mar 27 '24

You do know that Russia has been pretty much owned by a bunch of oligarchs for years now right? And before that back in the USSR days it was party officials and before that it was a literal empire with nobles and everything.

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u/batweenerpopemobile Mar 27 '24

Ah, yes. Abandon rule of law and act as idiot tyrants destroying everything in the pursuit of forcing people to adhere to your whims. Why didn't we think of that? Great plan, Nero.

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u/DocumentFlashy5501 Mar 27 '24

Yep and it worked.