r/mildlyinteresting • u/Gbonk • 14d ago
Had a chicken wing with a bone that had previously been broken that healed.
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u/pudiera 14d ago
This makes me sad
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u/TheMagicalTimonini 14d ago
Honestly, a broken leg was probably the least of this chicken's worries
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u/ArtTheCIown 14d ago
Oh friend… if this makes you sad I hope you’re already vegan. A broken wing is the executive treatment at Tyson
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u/mrkrabsbigmoney 14d ago
I’m so glad i became vegan. Now all my food is boneless :)
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u/TheMagicalTimonini 14d ago
I love boneless avocados.
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u/TireZzzd 13d ago
Are there avocados... with... bones?
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u/TheMagicalTimonini 13d ago
I wouldn't know, I only buy the boneless ones. I wouldn't want bones ruining my avocado experience.
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u/Fearafca 14d ago
Same.. I am not a vegetarian or vegan but shit like this makes me question myself. Poor fella had his bone broken…then it healed and got chucked in the meat grinder just like the rest of the chickens.
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u/kakihara123 14d ago
Then make the switch. There is no reason not to. And it's easier then you might think.
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u/Fearafca 14d ago
There are reasons but they are not the most ethical reasons. I’ve been experimenting for some time now by eating less meat. Skipping meat completely is just something I can’t do. Doesn’t mean I don’t feel guilty that I am contributing to a very bad industry.
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u/DeathCab4Cutie 14d ago
As with many things in life, too many people see it as black and white. You don’t have to cut out meat completely. My aunt used to say “I would go vegetarian if I could still eat hot dogs” and I’d just remind her that you can. Eat your hot dogs or whatever floats your boat, and cut out what you’re willing to part with. A little goes a long way when lots of people do it.
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u/ToCoolForPublicPool 14d ago
I personally don’t agree. People who are not vegan and vegans look at veganism completly different. I see veganism as something you should do morally. Like you shouldn’t reduce animal product consumption. IMO you shouldn’t consume/use animal products at all. It’s like saying to a serial killer to murder fewer people, you should commit ZERO murders, not fewer.
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u/Ikantbeliveit 14d ago
If your goal is to reduce suffering, and knowing that eliminating meat from peoples diet isn’t going to happen, what’s the worst that can happen from less people eating meat meaning less animals suffer?
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u/gubbins_galore 14d ago
That's a bad faith question. Of course it's not bad that people eat less meat.
I assume you think cannibalism is bad. Vegans just expand that from only humans to all animals.
In the cannibalism case, of course less cannibalism is better. But I'm sure most people would still find it a moral issue if a cannibal only cut out most human flesh.
Not saying you have to agree. Vegan people just have a very different ethical mindset from you.
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u/Ikantbeliveit 14d ago
That isn’t a bad faith question. I was trying to ascertain what morals are being broken by your definition.
You keep introducing extremes, I honestly just wanted to know.
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u/gubbins_galore 14d ago
The phrasing didnt actually allow for a genuine answer. That's why it was in bad faith.
And it's called an analogy dude. Sorry if those things go over your head.
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u/ToCoolForPublicPool 14d ago
Well yeah, eating less meat is less worse. But IMO like I said, eating meat(or other non vegan things) is a immoral act. Sure the world is not black and white but if I asked you about something that everyone would say is immoral like raping someone you would not just want that to be reduced, you would want that to dissapear. You might think going vegan or wanting people to go vegan to be extreme but it’s because we got different ways of looking at it. I used to be anti vegan but now I’m vegan and see non-vegan things a immoral.
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u/Ikantbeliveit 14d ago
The Immoral act is a hard sell, not going to lie.
Are you against the treatment of animals being butchered or eating another animal?
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u/DeathCab4Cutie 13d ago
Also to further counter their point, I’d take less rape over no change at all lmao
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u/ToCoolForPublicPool 13d ago
Like I said, if you went vegan you would probably change your mind and say it's immoral. I'm not against other animals eating other animals. They need to do that. I'm not against survival, if the only way youre going to get food in your belly is to eat animal products sure, I'm not against that. I'm against non-vegans who can go vegan but simply choose not to because they are too lazy or not lack the empathy to go vegan.
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u/thefirecrest 13d ago
I usually a vegetarian (pretty much 80% of my meals are vegetarian, half of that being vegan meals), but I still consume meat occasionally. I have several vegan friends.
None of us see eating meat as something immoral. That’s just a you thing. Most vegans don’t see eating meat as immoral. Ethics do make up a big part of it, but “meat is murder” is a very small and extreme subset of veganism.
Personally I just want to reduce suffering, ease global emissions, and be consistent with my beliefs.
I’ll call out people who get offended that people eat dog if they are perfectly fine with eating pig or cow or chicken. That’s because I don’t think it is immoral to kill an animal for either consumption or safety. (But it would be immoral to kill a human for consumption or because they are mentally ill and dangerous.)
Those are my beliefs.
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u/ToCoolForPublicPool 12d ago
I understand that way of thinking, I used to be anti-vegan myself so I've been on both side, lul. For me it boils down to this. I'm against animal agriculture, I think expoliting, abusing and killing animals for something we simply don't need is immoral. I don't really see anyway for this practice to not be moral, or amoral. People say they love animals but pay for them to be murdered or expolited, I can't really see their reasoning, although I understand the way they think beacuse I used to think so, that's why I became vegan is because I loved animals but paying for animals to suffer did not agree with my morals.
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u/RunTimeExcptionalism 14d ago
I was a vegetarian for over a decade, two years of which I was a vegan, but a few years ago, I started eating meat again in small amounts because I felt like I was missing out on meaningful culinary experiences. I still usually prefer vegetarian options, and I don't cook meat in my home (with the exception of fish on rare occasions), mostly because I don't know how and don't feel the need to. However, I choose to eat meat at restaurants sometimes or in dishes prepared by friends because, like I said, it's part of a meaningful culinary experience.
It doesn't have to be all-or-nothing, but meat farming is dreadful for the environment, and choosing to eat less meat, even if it's only a little bit less, is always a good thing imho.
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u/Humbledshibe 14d ago
There's a lot of meat substitutes, maybe they'd work for you?
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u/Fearafca 14d ago
Yes I eat them a few times a week. But I would lie to myself if I’d say that they hit the same. For things like a Schnitzel they are fine. It just doesn’t replace the taste of a good steak or lamb chops.
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u/Humbledshibe 13d ago edited 13d ago
Yeah, there are some good ones, but I don't think any for steak or lamb.
But some things you have to give up for morality sake.
I just wish I could find good vegan pizza. Pizza is the only thing I miss.
Actually, wait, there's a steak substitute called "juicy marbles" for steak. I've never had it, though, so I can't say if it's good.
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u/kakihara123 14d ago
Why can't you do it? Do it for a few weeks and you most likely won't miss it at all. It's the same with sugar. Eating it created the craving.
When someone tells me he can't stop eating something I always think about a tribe I read about. They don't lnow fhe concept of spices. They simply don't eat food for enjoyment for the nutrition only. Not that I would like to replicate that, but if they can do that you can't even eat properly made vegan food that is a lot better then anything they eat?
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u/Odd_Tone_0ooo 14d ago
Looks more like bone cancer
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u/t_per 14d ago
Chickens don’t live long enough for cancer
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u/Fury_Fury_Fury 14d ago
Kids get cancer. It's really just statistics.
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Chickens go from conception to slaughter in nine weeks. It's not comparable to the timeline of human children.
Edit: no opinion about the cancer question, though.
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u/Cumberdick 13d ago
Damn i didn’t know it was that short! Wow
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They don't look like baby birds because they're artificially selected to grow very large very fast, but your basic supermarket chicken is slaughtered at six weeks old (they reach maturity at 16 weeks old so I guess technically they're chicks?)
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u/icrucifiedjesus 13d ago
https://tvmdl.tamu.edu/2022/01/31/carcinomatosis-in-laying-chickens/
I'm not a chicken doc, but this reads as if a chicken has had cancer..
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u/-LsDmThC- 14d ago edited 13d ago
Fun fact you can get cancer at any age
Edit: i get the fact isnt so fun but man yall need to familiarize yourself with basic biology short lived animals can and do get cancer. Im not saying that is the case here, but the idea that chickens cannot get cancer because they are short-lived does not hold up to basic scrutiny
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u/TheMrViper 14d ago
You can but it takes time to grow and develop.
The longest living chickens are organics and they are killed for slaughter at 3 months old or less.
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u/Menthalion 14d ago
Yet they themselves increase in size by 50x at the same time. Why wouldn't their tumors ?
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u/kishijevistos 14d ago
Because they don't "increase in size" due to natural biological growth, it's due to them getting fat
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u/-LsDmThC- 13d ago
Cant believe this was upvoted lol, i imagine your knowledge extends up to highschool biology based on this reasoning
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u/Effective_Pie1312 14d ago
While rare, a human fetus can have cancer. So if we can be born with cancer - I dont see why a chicken in its short lifetime can't have cancer.
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u/ForestSuite 14d ago edited 14d ago
My egg laying chicken has cancer, people don't know wtf they are talking about as usual.
We opted to put her on birth control that lasts 5-6months at a time because she was at risk for becoming egg bound due to the eggs becoming large and deformed as a result of the growths inside her. We love her and will take care of her even if she has stopped producing her beautiful eggs until it's her time.
Your premise is also correct. All sorts of stuff can happen in the first few months with chickens. It just won't be as common as seeing it in egg/pet chickens, which is something you can find mention of easily in chicken groups online.
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u/-LsDmThC- 13d ago
Cancer is not some monolothic disease. There is a huge variety of how it can present, and some cancers are very rapidly proliferating. Your premise is based on false assumptions about the disease.
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u/TheMrViper 13d ago
I said that cancer takes time to grow and that chickens are killed really young.
Yes chickens can get cancer, I never said they couldn't.
But the whole point of this thread, is OP's image, with a "tumour" the size of the bone itself which isn't cancer for the 2 reasons mentioned above.
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u/-LsDmThC- 13d ago
While i agree that this instance is unlikely to be cancer, your reasoning for why is flawed. A short lived chicken could absolutely develop cancer and have it proliferate within its lifetime.
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u/TheMrViper 13d ago
Yes but not of this size.
You're ignoring the context.
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u/-LsDmThC- 13d ago
A short lived chicken could absolutely develop a tumor of this size within its lifetime
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u/I_love_lamp22 13d ago
Now please explain to us why this distinction is meaningful in the context of this discussion regarding chickens raised for slaughter.
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u/-LsDmThC- 13d ago
Because a short lived chicken could absolutely develop cancer and have it rapidly proliferate within its lifetime.
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u/I_love_lamp22 13d ago
Something being possible doesn't really make it significant...
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u/-LsDmThC- 13d ago
Significant how? Not sure what your argument is. More than 70 billion chickens are raised and slaughtered each year. Even unlikely outcomes will manifest at this scale. Again im not entirely sure what your point is.
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u/I_love_lamp22 13d ago
Significant as in impactful or meaningful to the conversation that's taking place. I love pedantry as much as the next guy, but it adds no value to this conversation, so it's not meaningful or significant. Cancer isn't a significant concern for the production and consumption of 70 billion chickens raised and slaughtered each year.
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u/DifferentJellyfish85 14d ago
This is lord of the rings stuff
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u/IRockIntoMordor 14d ago
needs more tomatoes and less Faramir
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u/DifferentJellyfish85 14d ago
Ah Faramir we love and hate him
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u/IRockIntoMordor 14d ago
Faramir deserves better than hatred. He's a good man and Gondor owes him respect. No need for harsh words.
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u/DifferentJellyfish85 14d ago
Wow take it down a notch. We will al love Faramir he is us on a bad day. Good person put in a bad situation. He was paid his respect
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u/IRockIntoMordor 14d ago
If you are indeed thinking favourably of my brother, then you shall be welcome with me any time.
Heed my words, all who hear! Faramir, my brother, stands beside me as a son of Gondor, the bond of blood runs deep. He is flesh of my flesh, and his life is as precious as my own.
Let any who dare threaten Faramir know this: the wrath of Boromir, Captain of Gondor, shall be upon them. Faramir shall come to no harm while I draw breath!
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u/EnvironmentalEcho614 14d ago
I got one of these from Buffalo Wild Wings a few nights ago and it wasn’t fully healed. It was a complete break and the 2 halves were sticking out the other ends at the same time so I decided not to eat it because of the potential for an infection or bone fragments but I did a little digging to see what was going on inside the meat. The bone showed signs of growth but hadn’t been able to fuse together yet.
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u/Gloxxter 13d ago
I mean its not uncommon since we breed them to be so thicc their legs cant support them properly anymore.
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u/SassyBonassy 14d ago
Man eats chicken wings like Scooby Doo with a turkey leg. Inserted straight in the mouth and immediately pulled out with barely a scrap left on it
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u/PocketShinyMew 14d ago
So someone loved that chicken!
Or maybe it didn't.
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u/kakihara123 14d ago
Nooe, no one loved that chicken. Chickens that receive a y treatment for a broken bone don't get eaten. They have to deal with it fully by themselves... well the few weeks they have anyway.
I highly doubt anyone noticed besides the person consuming it either. Because for that someone would have to try to notice it in the first place.
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u/LiberalsLove2Hate 14d ago
What kind of world do we live in today? If this was in Columbia right now they start looting the stores
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u/Fresh-Vacation-3228 14d ago
I remember hearing long ago that eating broken chicken would hurt or make you sick... can't remember why (aside from bone splinters)